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  • GodderG Godder

    Is there any truth to rumours of South Africa leaving the competition and switching to Europe?

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    @godder said in Super Rugby News:

    Is there any truth to rumours of South Africa leaving the competition and switching to Europe?

    I think they want to be with Europe. Aligns with time zones and money. Europe not so keen to go from 1 horu flights, to 10 hour flights though, so I don't know if it will ever fly for top level competition.

    This issue seems to raise its head every few years.

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      @nzzp travelling fans is always one of the things I envy of their comps (6N too) because it is so close, whereas travelling for us means long haul to South Africa or Argentina, which brings huge cost, so is more a one off than something you can do regularly.

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        Good point raised by Nato on radio sport this morning, if they did leave for Europe who’s international competition will the Boks play in?
        Can’t see them being invited to join the 6 Nations, and they would no longer be in SANZAR so they won’t be in the Championship.

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        • VirgilV Virgil

          Good point raised by Nato on radio sport this morning, if they did leave for Europe who’s international competition will the Boks play in?
          Can’t see them being invited to join the 6 Nations, and they would no longer be in SANZAR so they won’t be in the Championship.

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          @virgil said in Super Rugby News:

          Good point raised by Nato on radio sport this morning, if they did leave for Europe who’s international competition will the Boks play in?
          Can’t see them being invited to join the 6 Nations, and they would no longer be in SANZAR so they won’t be in the Championship.

          As long as they are centrally contracted and have control of when their players are available - then their would be no reason for them not to remain in the 4 Nations.

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            isn't the money from Sky bundled for 4N & Super duper rugby? Obviously that would change...maybe this is all a ploy for when negotiations are up; we have other options, make sure you look after us.

            Aussie are the ones who currently bring little to the table and have little bargaining power, that said, giving them less money while at an all time low wont help, so maybe they need to somehow change the payout structure and say Aus, heres a retainer, and this is how much money is available to you, however, it will be based on these >KPIs< you don't meet, they get paid to SA/NZ as bonuses based on their performances.

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            • GodderG Godder

              Is there any truth to rumours of South Africa leaving the competition and switching to Europe?

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              @godder See the statement from SANZAAR that I posted in this thread yesterday. The answer is 'no'; that is, officially. Who knows what's being talked about 'off the record'.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @godder See the statement from SANZAAR that I posted in this thread yesterday. The answer is 'no'; that is, officially. Who knows what's being talked about 'off the record'.

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                @stargazer thnk it was Lions CEO on radio this morning saying that once contract is up for renewal they wil be looking at all options.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @stargazer thnk it was Lions CEO on radio this morning saying that once contract is up for renewal they wil be looking at all options.

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                  @taniwharugby Yeah, they can look at all options, but what the Lions CEO wants, SARU want, and SANZAAR want can be miles apart.

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                    Supersport provides over half of SANZAAR's broadcasting revenue so NZR will be worried if SA does leave.

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                      One drawback for SA if they shifted to playing in the NH is that rugby would largely become a summer sport in South Africa.

                      Would be pretty difficult for them to compete in the 4N as well as playing in the November international window unless they were planning never to give their players a break.

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                        Another question is, does the PRO14 and 6Nations want to include SA teams and at which terms.

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                          https://twitter.com/chahuahua/status/993557202399969280

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                            The Lions CEO comments read to me like he is using the Europe situation as leverage for more $/slice of the pie from SAANZAR for the new deal after 2020.

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                              Ryan Crotty has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Canterbury for another year (2019).

                              Scott Barrett has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Taranaki for two years (2020).

                              More info in the Crusaders 2018 thread

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                                So much for Scott wanting to play with his brothers at the Canes.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  Ryan Crotty has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Canterbury for another year (2019).

                                  Scott Barrett has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Taranaki for two years (2020).

                                  More info in the Crusaders 2018 thread

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                                  @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                  Ryan Crotty has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Canterbury for another year (2019).

                                  Scott Barrett has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Taranaki for two years (2020).

                                  More info in the Crusaders 2018 thread

                                  Great news that Razor has managed to keep Barrett. I'm sure the hurricanes would have tried pretty hard to lure him up there.

                                  I went to a speech he gave earlier this year.. he put up a few inspirational pics at the start of crusaders past victories, his family, captain Whitelock etc.

                                  One of the pics was of Scott Barrett... he explained that he put that one up because unlike Jordie, he decided to stay and was rewarded with a super rugby title. his next words were ... "but don't worry, I'll get Jordie back" 🙂

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                                    Haven't seen this posted anywhere, but Ofa Tu'ungafasi has re-signed with NZ Rugby, the Blues and Auckland until 2021.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/103744224/all-blacks-ofa-tuungafasi-resigns-with-new-zealand-rugby

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                                        @taniwharugby Shit, someone put some effort into that.

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                                          @taniwharugby Shit, someone put some effort into that.

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                                          @nepia They must have been desperate for the Sunwolves to win a game to make it full-circle.

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