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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    #3338

    One drawback for SA if they shifted to playing in the NH is that rugby would largely become a summer sport in South Africa.

    Would be pretty difficult for them to compete in the 4N as well as playing in the November international window unless they were planning never to give their players a break.

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      #3339

      Another question is, does the PRO14 and 6Nations want to include SA teams and at which terms.

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      • StargazerS Offline
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        #3340

        https://twitter.com/chahuahua/status/993557202399969280

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          KiwiMurph
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          #3341

          The Lions CEO comments read to me like he is using the Europe situation as leverage for more $/slice of the pie from SAANZAR for the new deal after 2020.

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            #3342

            Ryan Crotty has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Canterbury for another year (2019).

            Scott Barrett has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Taranaki for two years (2020).

            More info in the Crusaders 2018 thread

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            • BovidaeB Offline
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              Bovidae
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              #3343

              So much for Scott wanting to play with his brothers at the Canes.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                Ryan Crotty has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Canterbury for another year (2019).

                Scott Barrett has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Taranaki for two years (2020).

                More info in the Crusaders 2018 thread

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                SammyC
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                #3344

                @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                Ryan Crotty has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Canterbury for another year (2019).

                Scott Barrett has re-signed with NZR, the Crusaders and Taranaki for two years (2020).

                More info in the Crusaders 2018 thread

                Great news that Razor has managed to keep Barrett. I'm sure the hurricanes would have tried pretty hard to lure him up there.

                I went to a speech he gave earlier this year.. he put up a few inspirational pics at the start of crusaders past victories, his family, captain Whitelock etc.

                One of the pics was of Scott Barrett... he explained that he put that one up because unlike Jordie, he decided to stay and was rewarded with a super rugby title. his next words were ... "but don't worry, I'll get Jordie back" 🙂

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                • African MonkeyA Online
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                  #3345

                  Haven't seen this posted anywhere, but Ofa Tu'ungafasi has re-signed with NZ Rugby, the Blues and Auckland until 2021.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/103744224/all-blacks-ofa-tuungafasi-resigns-with-new-zealand-rugby

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                    taniwharugby
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                    #3346

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                      #3347

                      @taniwharugby Shit, someone put some effort into that.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @taniwharugby Shit, someone put some effort into that.

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                        #3348

                        @nepia They must have been desperate for the Sunwolves to win a game to make it full-circle.

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                          So the rebels snuck past the brumbles and the bulls past the shorks

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                            #3350

                            I created a little spreadsheet that pulls data from superxv and like to open it up after each round. thought I'd share some of it:

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                            NZ conference by far the most successful, with SA and Aus on par if you disregard the Sunwolves/Jaguares. Strangely Aus ahead of SA on head to head, but fall short against NZ comp. Begs the question as to why they cannot win a game vs NZ since they seem to be on par with the SA teams.

                            Rugby is a funny game.

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                              Machpants
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                              #3351

                              Fuck the press are muppets, it's impossible for the canes and Saders to meet in the final, they'll be ranked first and fourth (unless we have many massive major upsets) so will send up in the semis together, if they both win their quarters. Makes you realise how much bollox it published under the heading of news

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/103854816/phil-gifford-crusaders-and-hurricanes-on-a-fasttrack-to-super-rugby-final

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                              • M Machpants

                                Fuck the press are muppets, it's impossible for the canes and Saders to meet in the final, they'll be ranked first and fourth (unless we have many massive major upsets) so will send up in the semis together, if they both win their quarters. Makes you realise how much bollox it published under the heading of news

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/103854816/phil-gifford-crusaders-and-hurricanes-on-a-fasttrack-to-super-rugby-final

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                                #3352

                                @machpants I think it's because SANZAAR has made some unexplained changes.

                                This is from the SANZAAR website:

                                2017 Finals draw:
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                                2018 Finals draw:
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                                Changes:

                                QF1: 1 v 8 in 2017, this year: 1 v 8
                                QF2: 2 v 7 in 2017, this year: 4 v 5
                                QF3: 3 v 6 in 2017, this year: 2 v 7
                                QF4: 4 v 5 in 2017, this year: 3 v 6

                                And semis:

                                SF1: Winner QF1 v Winner QF4 in 2017, this year: Winner QF1 v Winner QF2
                                SF2: Winner QF2 v Winner QF3 in 2017, this year: Winner QF3 v Winner QF4

                                .

                                If they hadn't changed a thing, the result would have been the same (a possible Canes v Saders SF - not Final), but I can see how these changes may confuse people.

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                                  Machpants
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #3353

                                  @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                  this year: Winner QF1 v Winner QF2

                                  So Saders (assuming they beat Jags) vs Canes (assuming they beat Landers)

                                  They've just renumbered them, not changed the format, I think? Shouldn't really confuse someone that much!

                                  But good old SANZAAR a change is as good as a rest! Even if for no reason.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                    this year: Winner QF1 v Winner QF2

                                    So Saders (assuming they beat Jags) vs Canes (assuming they beat Landers)

                                    They've just renumbered them, not changed the format, I think? Shouldn't really confuse someone that much!

                                    But good old SANZAAR a change is as good as a rest! Even if for no reason.

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                                    Kruse
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #3354

                                    @machpants said in Super Rugby News:

                                    They've just renumbered them, not changed the format, I think? Shouldn't really confuse someone that much!

                                    Yep - exactly - the same format after Q-Finalists are decided, just given the QFs different numbers/names.
                                    Coz... somebody's "simple friend" got confused by it before?

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                                    • CrucialC Offline
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                                      Crucial
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                                      #3355

                                      The big change is only in deciding position 4 due to one less conference. It means that positions 4-8 are now on table points.
                                      I don't get why they didn't rank 1-3 on table points. You still get a 1-3 ranking on conference win irrespective of how shit the conference was.
                                      Under my tweak we would currently see

                                      1 Crusaders v 8 Jaguares
                                      4 Tahds v 5 Highlanders
                                      2 Canes v 7 Rebels
                                      3 Lions v 6 Chiefs

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                                        cgrant
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #3356

                                        Aren't the top conferences teams ranked 1,2 and 3 ?
                                        So it could be :

                                        1 Crusaders vs 8 Jaguares / Sharks
                                        4 Canes vs 5 Highlanders
                                        2 Lions vs 7 Rebels
                                        3 Tahs vs 6 Chiefs

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                                        • C cgrant

                                          Aren't the top conferences teams ranked 1,2 and 3 ?
                                          So it could be :

                                          1 Crusaders vs 8 Jaguares / Sharks
                                          4 Canes vs 5 Highlanders
                                          2 Lions vs 7 Rebels
                                          3 Tahs vs 6 Chiefs

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                                          Crucial
                                          wrote on last edited by Crucial
                                          #3357

                                          @cgrant said in Super Rugby News:

                                          Aren't the top conferences teams ranked 1,2 and 3 ?
                                          So it could be :

                                          1 Crusaders vs 8 Jaguares / Sharks
                                          4 Canes vs 5 Highlanders
                                          2 Lions vs 7 Rebels
                                          3 Tahs vs 6 Chiefs

                                          As above. That is the current situation.
                                          My way is to still give the conference winner a home semi but rank in order of table points.

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