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    @taniwharugby If the Sunwolves keep signing more NZ rugby players, we may as well count them as the 6th NZ team with a few foreigners. 🙄

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @taniwharugby If the Sunwolves keep signing more NZ rugby players, we may as well count them as the 6th NZ team with a few foreigners. 🙄

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      @stargazer Quite rapt purely from a Northland piece we get Ranger back for Mitre 10 Cup next year..I suspect moving forward there will be many more..

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        @taniwharugby If the Sunwolves keep signing more NZ rugby players, we may as well count them as the 6th NZ team with a few foreigners. 🙄

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        @stargazer

        You say that like it’s a bad thing. I’d be pleased if they were in our conference - or at least would go to more games 🙂

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          @stargazer

          You say that like it’s a bad thing. I’d be pleased if they were in our conference - or at least would go to more games 🙂

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          @gt12 The bad thing is that in reality it's supposed to be a Japanese team but hasn't that many Japanese players in it. Reality is also that if it had more Japanese players in it, it would be even more sh*t than it is now. In more than one way, that team is a joke.

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            @gt12 The bad thing is that in reality it's supposed to be a Japanese team but hasn't that many Japanese players in it. Reality is also that if it had more Japanese players in it, it would be even more sh*t than it is now. In more than one way, that team is a joke.

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            @stargazer

            Always so serious 🙂

            All good points, except fuck them being a Japanese team, except for Tanaka.

            I want them to be fucking choker bloc of favorite sons no longer quite good enough elsewhere - Messam and Lats would be my first additions.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @gt12 The bad thing is that in reality it's supposed to be a Japanese team but hasn't that many Japanese players in it. Reality is also that if it had more Japanese players in it, it would be even more sh*t than it is now. In more than one way, that team is a joke.

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              @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

              @gt12 The bad thing is that in reality it's supposed to be a Japanese team but hasn't that many Japanese players in it. Reality is also that if it had more Japanese players in it, it would be even more sh*t than it is now. In more than one way, that team is a joke.

              It wasn't really thought through was it? The team doesn't fit into the Japan rugby set up so can't be either a next level between their club game and internationals or a de-facto Brave Blossoms.
              Instead they get overseas players alongside dregs or development players from clubs.

              Japan Rugby needs to decide how they want this team to fit in. What would be best for them is probably to use it as a step between club and country using national players that don't play overseas.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                @gt12 The bad thing is that in reality it's supposed to be a Japanese team but hasn't that many Japanese players in it. Reality is also that if it had more Japanese players in it, it would be even more sh*t than it is now. In more than one way, that team is a joke.

                It wasn't really thought through was it? The team doesn't fit into the Japan rugby set up so can't be either a next level between their club game and internationals or a de-facto Brave Blossoms.
                Instead they get overseas players alongside dregs or development players from clubs.

                Japan Rugby needs to decide how they want this team to fit in. What would be best for them is probably to use it as a step between club and country using national players that don't play overseas.

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                @crucial

                Dammit, this is going to be a serious discussion, isn’t it?

                All JP won’t work due to club contracts, which weren’t negotiated when the team was introduced.

                Personally I think they should have their funding pushed through the roof, then try to have a 50/50 mix, by slowly signing the better JP players - or paying their clubs for the priceless - and surrounding them with old heads to help them get around.

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                  I can't really say Japan is too shit eh. After all, they beat the team we last lost to...

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                    Reds to permanently wear maroon jersey in 2019

                    The club today announced at its annual long lunch that players will wear the traditional maroon strip for the entirety of next season in a nod to 125 years of rich Queensland rugby history.
                    
                    The strip has become a fan favourite since being reintroduced in 2017 by former coach Nick Stiles for the team's clash with the Waratahs.
                    
                    It was worn in both Reds-Waratahs showdowns this year and NSW introduced a similar heritage jersey this season to honour the occasion.
                    
                    The maroon kit Queensland first wore in 1894 carried them through until 2006.
                    
                    That's when the jersey transformed to the red strip the team has worn until now.
                    

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                      @crucial

                      Dammit, this is going to be a serious discussion, isn’t it?

                      All JP won’t work due to club contracts, which weren’t negotiated when the team was introduced.

                      Personally I think they should have their funding pushed through the roof, then try to have a 50/50 mix, by slowly signing the better JP players - or paying their clubs for the priceless - and surrounding them with old heads to help them get around.

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                      @gt12 said in Super Rugby News:

                      @crucial

                      Dammit, this is going to be a serious discussion, isn’t it?

                      All JP won’t work due to club contracts, which weren’t negotiated when the team was introduced.

                      Personally I think they should have their funding pushed through the roof, then try to have a 50/50 mix, by slowly signing the better JP players - or paying their clubs for the priceless - and surrounding them with old heads to help them get around.

                      If there is one lesson in world rugby (with small w and r) since going pro it is that the domestic set up is key to the international results.
                      Everyone looks in envy at the the legacy Jock Hobbs left in NZ and it has played a major role in AB dominance once we settled on how to make it work.
                      England are hog tied by their clubs, Australia has no foundation in place, Scotland don't have the numbers, France is a shit show. Only Ireland took the hard hit to sort themselves out and look how it has benefitted them.
                      If Japan want to grow as an international team they need to take the opportunity offered by a SR team and use it well.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        Reds to permanently wear maroon jersey in 2019

                        The club today announced at its annual long lunch that players will wear the traditional maroon strip for the entirety of next season in a nod to 125 years of rich Queensland rugby history.
                        
                        The strip has become a fan favourite since being reintroduced in 2017 by former coach Nick Stiles for the team's clash with the Waratahs.
                        
                        It was worn in both Reds-Waratahs showdowns this year and NSW introduced a similar heritage jersey this season to honour the occasion.
                        
                        The maroon kit Queensland first wore in 1894 carried them through until 2006.
                        
                        That's when the jersey transformed to the red strip the team has worn until now.
                        

                        alt text

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                        @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                        Reds to permanently wear maroon jersey in 2019

                        The club today announced at its annual long lunch that players will wear the traditional maroon strip for the entirety of next season in a nod to 125 years of rich Queensland rugby history.
                        
                        The strip has become a fan favourite since being reintroduced in 2017 by former coach Nick Stiles for the team's clash with the Waratahs.
                        
                        It was worn in both Reds-Waratahs showdowns this year and NSW introduced a similar heritage jersey this season to honour the occasion.
                        
                        The maroon kit Queensland first wore in 1894 carried them through until 2006.
                        
                        That's when the jersey transformed to the red strip the team has worn until now.
                        

                        alt text

                        i.e. Aus rugby can't afford a new strip so they're using last seasons.

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                          Are they going to change their name then?

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                            Are they going to change their name then?

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                            @crucial

                            Haven't they always been called the Reds? (Not officially, but casually.)

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              Are they going to change their name then?

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                              @crucial Rds to save on printing costs.

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                                Hayden Parker has re-signed with the Sunwolves for another season.

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rene-ranger-set-for-super-rugby-return/

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                                  Hayden Parker has re-signed with the Sunwolves for another season.

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rene-ranger-set-for-super-rugby-return/

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                                  @tim That's a pity, but to be expected after he signed with a Japanese club for the Top League as well. Would have been great to have him back at the Highlanders.

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                                    Bit of news from the Northland forum:

                                    https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/266777

                                    Jack Debreczeni has been signed by the chiefs.

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                                      trooa
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                                      Interesting, do we know if Falcon is still signed for next season?

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                                        Interesting, do we know if Falcon is still signed for next season?

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                                        Tim
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                                        @trooa Falcon signed for two years, so will be there in 2019.

                                        http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/latest-news/496-jacobson-and-falcon

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                                          MMac is off contract, isn't he?

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