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    @Steven-Harris said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

    @Tim ,I suspect there has'nt been to much leaked in and around Super Rugby Squads,because most of the spots in the NZ teams are already filled,apart from a few articles over the last month,pointing out certain players that have either recommitted or in the case some of the teams like the Blues who have signed Stephen Perofeta and Micheal Collins in recent times,i would imagine most teams have there rosters filled up around 98%,from what i understand,there is pool of players that go into a draft over the next couple of days before the teams are named this Wednesday,so i would imagine there will be some players in the Blues region that i support that i will be hoping they pull a contract.

    Got my fingers crossed for guys like,Chris Vui and Micheal Collins from Harbour and Matt Matich from Northland,just on pure form alone,these guys have been outstanding,and i will be staggered if the dont recieve contracts.

    Breakdown released a list of players who had'nt recieved contracts as of Wednesday gone

    Hoani Matenga
    Jack Ram
    Matt McGahan
    Lolagi Visinia
    Tevita Kolomatangi
    Tim Boys
    Ross Geldenhuys
    Micheal Little
    Siefred Fisi'hoi
    Tony Lambourn
    Greg Pleasants Tate
    Teihorangi Waldren

    From that list, Micheal Little and Greg Pleasants Tate would be really unlucky in my opinion

    I have no issues with the blues not contracting Lolagi Visinia,when he was at Kelston Boys High,he was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread,so everybody who was involved with Auckland rugby was telling me,but to be brutal,he has never forfilled his potential,lacks vision.and the ability to do the right thing at the right time,always goes into contact,as opposed to looking to link with his outsides.
    A prime example was Aucklands recent game against Taranaki,fielded a ball just outside his own 22,and then kicked the ball directly into touch with the oncoming Taranaki players still a good 30 metres away,it gifted taranaki field position at such key stage of the game,if your not making good decisions at Mitre 10 Cup level,it is"nt gonna get any better at super level.

    My only real bug bear,when it comes to super rugby selection,from what i undersatnd,Dalton Papalii an openside flanker for the NZ under 20 team will be selected for the Blues,similar to the Bodie Barret situation in the All Blacks,apprentice type role.i can under stand why franchises do this,to keep their young talent in the franchise,but what happens to the no7 that slugs his guts out for one of the 3 unions that make up the franchise,Matt Matich,whilst he played most of his rugby at no 8 for Northland,an excellnt no7,as is North Harbour no7 Connor Collet who has been oustanding all season.
    Be intersted to get some thoughts from you all out there.?

    Tony Lamborn has, apparently, not been re-signed by the Hurricanes. He only had the one-year contract for 2016.

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    #821

    @Number-10 said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

    @Steven-Harris said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

    @Tim ,I suspect there has'nt been to much leaked in and around Super Rugby Squads,because most of the spots in the NZ teams are already filled,apart from a few articles over the last month,pointing out certain players that have either recommitted or in the case some of the teams like the Blues who have signed Stephen Perofeta and Micheal Collins in recent times,i would imagine most teams have there rosters filled up around 98%,from what i understand,there is pool of players that go into a draft over the next couple of days before the teams are named this Wednesday,so i would imagine there will be some players in the Blues region that i support that i will be hoping they pull a contract.

    Got my fingers crossed for guys like,Chris Vui and Micheal Collins from Harbour and Matt Matich from Northland,just on pure form alone,these guys have been outstanding,and i will be staggered if the dont recieve contracts.

    Breakdown released a list of players who had'nt recieved contracts as of Wednesday gone

    Hoani Matenga
    Jack Ram
    Matt McGahan
    Lolagi Visinia
    Tevita Kolomatangi
    Tim Boys
    Ross Geldenhuys
    Micheal Little
    Siefred Fisi'hoi
    Tony Lambourn
    Greg Pleasants Tate
    Teihorangi Waldren

    From that list, Micheal Little and Greg Pleasants Tate would be really unlucky in my opinion

    I have no issues with the blues not contracting Lolagi Visinia,when he was at Kelston Boys High,he was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread,so everybody who was involved with Auckland rugby was telling me,but to be brutal,he has never forfilled his potential,lacks vision.and the ability to do the right thing at the right time,always goes into contact,as opposed to looking to link with his outsides.
    A prime example was Aucklands recent game against Taranaki,fielded a ball just outside his own 22,and then kicked the ball directly into touch with the oncoming Taranaki players still a good 30 metres away,it gifted taranaki field position at such key stage of the game,if your not making good decisions at Mitre 10 Cup level,it is"nt gonna get any better at super level.

    My only real bug bear,when it comes to super rugby selection,from what i undersatnd,Dalton Papalii an openside flanker for the NZ under 20 team will be selected for the Blues,similar to the Bodie Barret situation in the All Blacks,apprentice type role.i can under stand why franchises do this,to keep their young talent in the franchise,but what happens to the no7 that slugs his guts out for one of the 3 unions that make up the franchise,Matt Matich,whilst he played most of his rugby at no 8 for Northland,an excellnt no7,as is North Harbour no7 Connor Collet who has been oustanding all season.
    Be intersted to get some thoughts from you all out there.?

    Tony Lamborn has, apparently, not been re-signed by the Hurricanes. He only had the one-year contract for 2016.

    He was on a WTG in 2016, wasn't he? Although he has said before the June series (when he was announced as a squad member of the USA Eagles) that he wanted to stay with the Canes and Magpies for the next years to come, I hope this doesn't mean that he'll go overseas, more specifically, sign with one of the PRO USA teams. I blame those damned trial laws that didn't suit his game at all ...

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      Tony Lamborn played a few Tests for USA this year so is no longer NZ Qualified meaning whichever franchise wishes to sign him would need to plead their case to NZR that there are no other loosies available in NZ who are as good as him.

      ... I'd imagine that would be a short discussion.

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      • WurzelW Wurzel

        Tony Lamborn played a few Tests for USA this year so is no longer NZ Qualified meaning whichever franchise wishes to sign him would need to plead their case to NZR that there are no other loosies available in NZ who are as good as him.

        ... I'd imagine that would be a short discussion.

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        #823

        @Wurzel So "NZ Qualified" is even a consideration if a player has NZ citizenship?

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Wurzel So "NZ Qualified" is even a consideration if a player has NZ citizenship?

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          #824

          @Stargazer yeah that does make it an interesting situation, be similar for a few other players I expect - Tim Nanai-Williams for one.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @Stargazer yeah that does make it an interesting situation, be similar for a few other players I expect - Tim Nanai-Williams for one.

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            #825

            @taniwharugby It's weird because Lamborn is born and bred in NZ. He only qualifies for the USA because his dad is American.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @taniwharugby It's weird because Lamborn is born and bred in NZ. He only qualifies for the USA because his dad is American.

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              #826

              @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

              @taniwharugby It's weird because Lamborn is born and bred in NZ. He only qualifies for the USA because his dad is American.

              But he's played for the US Eagles, so NZR now have to consider if it's worth their financial concern to pay his wages when they could instead pay for the wages of a young loosie who may one day benefit the All Blacks.

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                #827

                Nothing about the squads in the newspapers so far this week.

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                  Squads are named tomorrow I believe.

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                    Australian prop Guy Millar to join Highlanders for the 2017 Super Rugby season

                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/85954161/australian-prop-guy-millar-to-join-highlanders-for-the-2017-super-rugby-season

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                      #830

                      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/85979452/tim-bateman-to-rejoin-crusaders-for-2017-season

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                      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                        Australian prop Guy Millar to join Highlanders for the 2017 Super Rugby season

                        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/85954161/australian-prop-guy-millar-to-join-highlanders-for-the-2017-super-rugby-season

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                        #831

                        @Daffy-Jaffy They buried the lede:

                        It is understood the Highlanders have also picked up Canterbury prop Siate Tokolahi for 2017.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Daffy-Jaffy They buried the lede:

                          It is understood the Highlanders have also picked up Canterbury prop Siate Tokolahi for 2017.

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                          @Tim Tokolahi became a spare part for the Chiefs this year. This would suggest that Fisiihoi has been retained and/or a young prop like Kautai has been signed. I'm not sure Tuiloma has the fitness for Super rugby.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @Number-10 said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

                            @Steven-Harris said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

                            @Tim ,I suspect there has'nt been to much leaked in and around Super Rugby Squads,because most of the spots in the NZ teams are already filled,apart from a few articles over the last month,pointing out certain players that have either recommitted or in the case some of the teams like the Blues who have signed Stephen Perofeta and Micheal Collins in recent times,i would imagine most teams have there rosters filled up around 98%,from what i understand,there is pool of players that go into a draft over the next couple of days before the teams are named this Wednesday,so i would imagine there will be some players in the Blues region that i support that i will be hoping they pull a contract.

                            Got my fingers crossed for guys like,Chris Vui and Micheal Collins from Harbour and Matt Matich from Northland,just on pure form alone,these guys have been outstanding,and i will be staggered if the dont recieve contracts.

                            Breakdown released a list of players who had'nt recieved contracts as of Wednesday gone

                            Hoani Matenga
                            Jack Ram
                            Matt McGahan
                            Lolagi Visinia
                            Tevita Kolomatangi
                            Tim Boys
                            Ross Geldenhuys
                            Micheal Little
                            Siefred Fisi'hoi
                            Tony Lambourn
                            Greg Pleasants Tate
                            Teihorangi Waldren

                            From that list, Micheal Little and Greg Pleasants Tate would be really unlucky in my opinion

                            I have no issues with the blues not contracting Lolagi Visinia,when he was at Kelston Boys High,he was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread,so everybody who was involved with Auckland rugby was telling me,but to be brutal,he has never forfilled his potential,lacks vision.and the ability to do the right thing at the right time,always goes into contact,as opposed to looking to link with his outsides.
                            A prime example was Aucklands recent game against Taranaki,fielded a ball just outside his own 22,and then kicked the ball directly into touch with the oncoming Taranaki players still a good 30 metres away,it gifted taranaki field position at such key stage of the game,if your not making good decisions at Mitre 10 Cup level,it is"nt gonna get any better at super level.

                            My only real bug bear,when it comes to super rugby selection,from what i undersatnd,Dalton Papalii an openside flanker for the NZ under 20 team will be selected for the Blues,similar to the Bodie Barret situation in the All Blacks,apprentice type role.i can under stand why franchises do this,to keep their young talent in the franchise,but what happens to the no7 that slugs his guts out for one of the 3 unions that make up the franchise,Matt Matich,whilst he played most of his rugby at no 8 for Northland,an excellnt no7,as is North Harbour no7 Connor Collet who has been oustanding all season.
                            Be intersted to get some thoughts from you all out there.?

                            Tony Lamborn has, apparently, not been re-signed by the Hurricanes. He only had the one-year contract for 2016.

                            He was on a WTG in 2016, wasn't he? Although he has said before the June series (when he was announced as a squad member of the USA Eagles) that he wanted to stay with the Canes and Magpies for the next years to come, I hope this doesn't mean that he'll go overseas, more specifically, sign with one of the PRO USA teams. I blame those damned trial laws that didn't suit his game at all ...

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                            booboo
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #833

                            @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

                            @Number-10 said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

                            @Steven-Harris said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

                            @Tim ,I suspect there has'nt been to much leaked in and around Super Rugby Squads,because most of the spots in the NZ teams are already filled,apart from a few articles over the last month,pointing out certain players that have either recommitted or in the case some of the teams like the Blues who have signed Stephen Perofeta and Micheal Collins in recent times,i would imagine most teams have there rosters filled up around 98%,from what i understand,there is pool of players that go into a draft over the next couple of days before the teams are named this Wednesday,so i would imagine there will be some players in the Blues region that i support that i will be hoping they pull a contract.

                            Got my fingers crossed for guys like,Chris Vui and Micheal Collins from Harbour and Matt Matich from Northland,just on pure form alone,these guys have been outstanding,and i will be staggered if the dont recieve contracts.

                            Breakdown released a list of players who had'nt recieved contracts as of Wednesday gone

                            Hoani Matenga
                            Jack Ram
                            Matt McGahan
                            Lolagi Visinia
                            Tevita Kolomatangi
                            Tim Boys
                            Ross Geldenhuys
                            Micheal Little
                            Siefred Fisi'hoi
                            Tony Lambourn
                            Greg Pleasants Tate
                            Teihorangi Waldren

                            From that list, Micheal Little and Greg Pleasants Tate would be really unlucky in my opinion

                            I have no issues with the blues not contracting Lolagi Visinia,when he was at Kelston Boys High,he was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread,so everybody who was involved with Auckland rugby was telling me,but to be brutal,he has never forfilled his potential,lacks vision.and the ability to do the right thing at the right time,always goes into contact,as opposed to looking to link with his outsides.
                            A prime example was Aucklands recent game against Taranaki,fielded a ball just outside his own 22,and then kicked the ball directly into touch with the oncoming Taranaki players still a good 30 metres away,it gifted taranaki field position at such key stage of the game,if your not making good decisions at Mitre 10 Cup level,it is"nt gonna get any better at super level.

                            My only real bug bear,when it comes to super rugby selection,from what i undersatnd,Dalton Papalii an openside flanker for the NZ under 20 team will be selected for the Blues,similar to the Bodie Barret situation in the All Blacks,apprentice type role.i can under stand why franchises do this,to keep their young talent in the franchise,but what happens to the no7 that slugs his guts out for one of the 3 unions that make up the franchise,Matt Matich,whilst he played most of his rugby at no 8 for Northland,an excellnt no7,as is North Harbour no7 Connor Collet who has been oustanding all season.
                            Be intersted to get some thoughts from you all out there.?

                            Tony Lamborn has, apparently, not been re-signed by the Hurricanes. He only had the one-year contract for 2016.

                            He was on a WTG in 2016, wasn't he? Although he has said before the June series (when he was announced as a squad member of the USA Eagles) that he wanted to stay with the Canes and Magpies for the next years to come, I hope this doesn't mean that he'll go overseas, more specifically, sign with one of the PRO USA teams. I blame those damned trial laws that didn't suit his game at all ...

                            So he's not NZ eligible? No loss then

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                              Australian prop Guy Millar to join Highlanders for the 2017 Super Rugby season

                              http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/85954161/australian-prop-guy-millar-to-join-highlanders-for-the-2017-super-rugby-season

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                              booboo
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                              #834

                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

                              Australian prop Guy Millar to join Highlanders for the 2017 Super Rugby season

                              http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/85954161/australian-prop-guy-millar-to-join-highlanders-for-the-2017-super-rugby-season

                              Really? Surely there are 25 props across NZ?

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                                #835

                                2017 Chiefs squad:

                                PROP:
                                Nepo Laulala (Counties Manukau)
                                Atu Moli (Waikato)
                                Siegfried Fisi’ihoi (Bay of Plenty)
                                Mitchell Graham (Taranaki)
                                Kane Hames ( Ta$man)
                                Sosefo Kautai (Waikato)

                                HOOKER:
                                Hika Elliot (Counties Manukau)
                                Nathan Harris (Bay of Plenty)
                                Liam Polwart (Bay of Plenty)

                                LOCK:
                                Brodie Retallick (Hawkes Bay)
                                Dominic Bird (Canterbury)
                                Michael Allardice (Hawkes Bay)
                                James Tucker (Waikato)

                                LOOSE FORWARD:
                                Taleni Seu (Auckland)
                                Liam Messam
                                Mitchell Brown (Taranaki)
                                Sam Cane (Bay of Plenty)
                                Mitchell Karpik (Bay of Plenty)
                                Lachlan Boshier (Taranaki)
                                Tom Sanders (Canterbury)
                                Michael Leitch

                                HALFBACK:
                                Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Waikato)
                                Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
                                Finlay Christie ( Ta$man)

                                FIRST FIVE EIGHTH:
                                Aaron Cruden (Manawatu)
                                Stephen Donald (Waikato)

                                FIRST FIVE EIGHTH / OUTSIDE BACK:
                                Damian McKenzie (Waikato)

                                MIDFIELD:
                                Charlie Ngatai (Taranaki)
                                Anton Lienert-Brown (Waikato)
                                Johnny Fa’auli (Taranaki)

                                MIDFIELD / OUTSIDE BACK:
                                Tim Nanai-Williams
                                Solomon Alaimalo (Northland)

                                OUTSIDE BACK:
                                Sam McNicol (Hawkes Bay)
                                James Lowe ( Ta$man)
                                Chase Tiatia (Bay of Plenty)
                                Toni Pulu (Counties Manukau)
                                Glen Fisiiahi (Counties Manukau)
                                Shaun Stevenson (Waikato)

                                http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/latest-news/268-continuity-is-key-in-2017-gallagher-chiefs-squad

                                For who prefers a graphic:
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                                  The Blues squad is:

                                  Backs: Michael Collins (Otago), Matt Duffie (North Harbour), TJ Faiane (Auckland), Billy Guyton ( Ta$man), Rieko Ioane (Auckland), Matt Vaega (North Harbour), George Moala (Auckland), Melani Nanai (Auckland), Sam Nock (Northland), Declan O’Donnell (Taranaki), Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki), Augustine Pulu (Counties Manukau), Rene Ranger (North Harbour), Jordon Trainor (Waikato), Ihaia West (Hawkes Bay), Sonny Bill Williams (Counties Manukau), Piers Francis (Counties Manukau).

                                  Forwards: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti (North Harbour), Epalahame Faiva (Waikato), Charlie Faumuina (Auckland), Blake Gibson (Auckland), Josh Goodhue (Northland), Alex Hodgman (Canterbury), Akira Ioane (Auckland), Jerome Kaino (Auckland), Steven Luatua (Auckland), Sione Mafileo (North Harbour), Pauliasi Manu (Counties Manukau), Matt Moulds (Northland), Brandon Nansen (North Harbour), James Parsons (North Harbour), Sam Prattley (Auckland), Kara Pryor (Northland), Scott Scrafton (Auckland), Murphy Taramai (North Harbour), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland), Jimmy Tupou (Counties Manukau), Ofa Tu’ungafasi (Auckland),

                                  http://theblues.co.nz/experienced-players-return-2017/

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                                    2017 Highlanders

                                    Forwards
                                    Liam Coltman, Ash Dixon, Greg Pleasants-Tate, Daniel Lienert-Brown, Siosuia Halanukonuka, Guy Millar*, Siate Tokolahi*, Aki Seiuli, Craig Millar, Tom Franklin, Joe Wheeler, Alex Ainley, Josh Dickson*, Jackson Hemopo, Luke Whitelock, Liam Squire, James Lentjes, Gareth Evans, Dan Pryor, Shane Christie, Elliot Dixon

                                    Backs
                                    Aaron Smith, Kayne Hammington*, Josh Renton, Lima Sopoaga, Hayden Parker, Fletcher Smith, Rob Thompson, Patelesio Tomkinson, Teihorangi Walden, Richard Buckman, Matt Faddes, Waisake Naholo, Malakai Fekitoa, Patrick Osborne, Tevita Li*, Jason Emery , Ben Smith

                                    *Debut season for Highlanders in 2017

                                    http://www.thehighlanders.co.nz/our-news/latest-news/787-pulse-energy-highlanders-team-naming-for-2017-investec-super-rugby-season

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                                      So Michael Little either ends up in Wellington or at the Sunwolves.

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                                        No room for Brynn Gatland either...

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                                          No room for Brynn Gatland either...

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                                          @JK don't rate bryn gatland at all except for the fact he can kick

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