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T20 World Cup 2021

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    I saw some comments that teams batting first have struggled in this tournament

    Skimming in through the results it seems only 8 teams have won batting first in 28 matches

    Of those 8 wins, ~5 of them had a large quality gap between the sides
    Afg beat Nam
    WI beat Ban
    Afg beat Sco
    Ban beat PNG
    Sri beat Ire
    Ban beat Oman
    Sco over PNG
    Sco beat Ban

    Couldn't be bothered looking up the coin tosses. I presume it's almost always win the toss and chase?

    Results

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    @duluth said in T20 World Cup 2021:

    I saw some comments that teams batting first have struggled in this tournament

    Skimming in through the results it seems only 8 teams have won batting first in 28 matches

    Of those 8 wins, ~5 of them had a large quality gap between the sides
    Afg beat Nam
    WI beat Ban
    Afg beat Sco
    Ban beat PNG
    Sri beat Ire
    Ban beat Oman
    Sco over PNG
    Sco beat Ban

    Couldn't be bothered looking up the coin tosses. I presume it's almost always win the toss and chase?

    Results

    Conditions (or results?) seem to be very slanted - not sure why. They're saying the dew, but it seems to be games at both times of day (but especially late games). I haven't really noticed people struggling to grip the ball - and lots have just been the team batting first getting knocked over cheaply.

    England was in a bit of trouble vs SL last night, but Buttler and Morgan got them out of it.

    Pretty important that Kane win the toss vs Afghanistan.

    Even better would be to make the play-offs and win two tosses in those.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @chris-b said in T20 World Cup 2021:

      I haven't ever bought into the idea that we lost that game.

      We didn't.

      we drew the game, the tournament was awarded to England.

      I'd buy a replica and put it up

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      @nzzp said in T20 World Cup 2021:

      @chris-b said in T20 World Cup 2021:

      I haven't ever bought into the idea that we lost that game.

      We didn't.

      we drew the game, the tournament was awarded to England.

      I'd buy a replica and put it up

      We didn't draw the game, we won it on wickets, but they inexplicably changed the rules for that tournament and that tournament alone, making a complete farce of the tournament.

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        @nzzp said in T20 World Cup 2021:

        @chris-b said in T20 World Cup 2021:

        I haven't ever bought into the idea that we lost that game.

        We didn't.

        we drew the game, the tournament was awarded to England.

        I'd buy a replica and put it up

        We didn't draw the game, we won it on wickets, but they inexplicably changed the rules for that tournament and that tournament alone, making a complete farce of the tournament.

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        @no-quarter I'm prepared to generously allow that England tied the match, through two massive slices of luck and the efforts of a New Zealander.

        And if any Englishman wants to quibble with that - we also won the Super over by half a run! 🙂

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          Well the English have every right to be confident about their team in the short forms of the game. Another team destroyed last night.

          T20 seems like the only format you that have to back immediate form and PAK and themslves riding high. Still a few teams who on their day can beat both (including us) but a great start to the tournament by both.

          https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1454856694304059393?s=20

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            Wow, it seems the BBC have hired some Herald writers. Get a load of this pile of wank. Even the Aussies applauded it? Englands team is better than have to resort to this sort of writing

            FWIW I watched Butter's innings. It was really good. It wasn't even a great innings, let alone an all-time great innings. He didn't dominate right from the start, he played his way in, then hit some excellent shots.

            Absolutely no idea why they are going on about it so much. It looks pathetic.

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59125500

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              An earlier game to watch some live cricket. Scotland won the toss and will field. The same NZ XI are playing.

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                I see we're determined to give Scotland a sporting chance...

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                • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                  I see we're determined to give Scotland a sporting chance...

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                  @donsteppa said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                  I see we're determined to give Scotland a sporting chance...

                  .. I dont think we would ever live that down if we dropped tis one ha ha

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                  • bayimportsB bayimports

                    @donsteppa said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                    I see we're determined to give Scotland a sporting chance...

                    .. I dont think we would ever live that down if we dropped tis one ha ha

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                    @bayimports said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                    @donsteppa said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                    I see we're determined to give Scotland a sporting chance...

                    .. I dont think we would ever live that down if we dropped tis one ha ha

                    Those retro Champions Trophy uniforms seem about as lucky as those grey ABs jerseys

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                      The risk with this team selection is that the tail starts at 7...

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                        Now Conway throws his wicket away....

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                        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                          The risk with this team selection is that the tail starts at 7...

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                          @donsteppa said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                          The risk with this team selection is that the tail starts at 7...

                          Not far off the tail now! Jeeze, hope our bowlers are up for it!!

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                            Guppy doing a nice job of steadying the ship with help from Phillips

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                              The difference that one big partnership makes to an innings.

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                                Guppy doing a nice job of steadying the ship with help from Phillips

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                                @canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                Guppy doing a nice job of steadying the ship with help from Phillips

                                Phillips finding it very difficult to middle it.

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                                  Scotland have some excellent bowlers, and some proper shit ones.

                                  No idea why Sharif didn't get a 3rd over earlier on.

                                  Same as Pakistan, we seem to be struggling with timing a bit. Quite a few mishits.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                    Guppy doing a nice job of steadying the ship with help from Phillips

                                    Phillips finding it very difficult to middle it.

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                                    @act-crusader said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                    @canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                    Guppy doing a nice job of steadying the ship with help from Phillips

                                    Phillips finding it very difficult to middle it.

                                    Looks like he's trying too hard

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                                      Guptill is completely fucked. But still gets 2 6's.

                                      It's really poor captaincy by Scotland. Sharif 2-2 after 2. Captain holds him back for the later ones. Goes for 17. Needed to keep the pressure on.

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                                      • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                        Scotland have some excellent bowlers, and some proper shit ones.

                                        No idea why Sharif didn't get a 3rd over earlier on.

                                        Same as Pakistan, we seem to be struggling with timing a bit. Quite a few mishits.

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                                        @majorrage said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                        Scotland have some excellent bowlers, and some proper shit ones.

                                        No idea why Sharif didn't get a 3rd over earlier on.

                                        Same as Pakistan, we seem to be struggling with timing a bit. Quite a few mishits.

                                        2-2 after 2 and now goes for 17 in his 3rd. That’s T20 for ya

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                                        • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                          Guptill is completely fucked. But still gets 2 6's.

                                          It's really poor captaincy by Scotland. Sharif 2-2 after 2. Captain holds him back for the later ones. Goes for 17. Needed to keep the pressure on.

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                                          @majorrage it’s a fine line in this format. You want to keep your good bowlers with 1 or maybe 2 overs up your sleeve.

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