T20 World Cup 2021
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I think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves wishing for a Pakistani final. Aus have been pretty trash this tourney, getting steamrolled by England, and barely scraping past a fairly average south african outfit. The other teams in the pool haven't fired a shot.
For me, our best chance is a Pakistani collapse vs Aus, and I don't think that's outside the realms of possibility. Pakistan have proven they know how to get out to rash shots, and the pressure is on them big time they way they're being talked up. This will be their first truly high-pressure game at this tournament - winning their first game almost guaranteed them a semi spot, and if they'd lost that they still had a damn good chance of making the semis. This is their first must-win.
Mentally, we're not the side we were in 2015. We're no one's bunny any more. We have won so far by using a consistent approach that gives us a damn good chance of winning. We don't throw away wickets early, and we hope like hell one of Phillips or Neesham can hit out when needed. That'll yeild a close final no matter who we face, and we're a side with enough mental fortitude to close out a big close game.
Anyway it's T20, it's a crapshoot, and we've currently got the best chance of anyone of winning the thing (50% vs the other teams' 25%)
@delicatessen It is a bit of a crapshoot and likely to be dictated by who wins the toss.
In that regard, Pakistan won the toss vs India, us and Afghanistan.
They thumped India (but, so did we).
But, we had them in significant trouble at 87/5 - one more quick wicket and odds on we would have won that game - despite the disadvantage of losing the toss.
They also weren't particularly comfortable in beating Afghanistan.
They're a good team and could easily beat us - but, I'm a bit inclined to think they're not as formidable as their unbeaten run suggests. I'm significantly less worried about them than Oz.
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@delicatessen It is a bit of a crapshoot and likely to be dictated by who wins the toss.
In that regard, Pakistan won the toss vs India, us and Afghanistan.
They thumped India (but, so did we).
But, we had them in significant trouble at 87/5 - one more quick wicket and odds on we would have won that game - despite the disadvantage of losing the toss.
They also weren't particularly comfortable in beating Afghanistan.
They're a good team and could easily beat us - but, I'm a bit inclined to think they're not as formidable as their unbeaten run suggests. I'm significantly less worried about them than Oz.
@chris-b said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@delicatessen It is a bit of a crapshoot and likely to be dictated by who wins the toss.
In that regard, Pakistan won the toss vs India, us and Afghanistan.
They thumped India (but, so did we).
But, we had them in significant trouble at 87/5 - one more quick wicket and odds on we would have won that game - despite the disadvantage of losing the toss.
They also weren't particularly comfortable in beating Afghanistan.
They're a good team and could easily beat us - but, I'm a bit inclined to think they're not as formidable as their unbeaten run suggests. I'm significantly less worried about them than Oz.
We have built steadily through the tourney and look very good now. We have big match experience and will be tough to beat
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Ok, I will admit I didn't watch game etc, T20 just doesn't do it for me.
But I will say I am stunned what this team has done in making final. That is 3 finals in 3 years over 3 different formats!!
Someone has to remind these buggers that NZ isn't any good at cricket!!
Hell we just don't have the money, number of plaers etc etc to be able to do this. When I think I am old enough to be someone who just thought we had reached our absolute peak when we beat the Poms at Athletic Park way back in 70s!!! -
@kiwipie said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@donsteppa said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@dogmeat said in T20 World Cup 2021:
I loathe T20 but if there's any room on the bandwagon can I please jump on board?
See you at 3am on Monday morning
I also loathe T20 and only half watched the game. With 4 overs left and 57 runs to get, I started getting ready for work. Came back to the TV with 34 needed off 3 and 2 overs later I loved T20 cricket.
@nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@kiwipie said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@donsteppa said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@dogmeat said in T20 World Cup 2021:
I loathe T20 but if there's any room on the bandwagon can I please jump on board?
See you at 3am on Monday morning
I also loathe T20 and only half watched the game. With 4 overs left and 57 runs to get, I started getting ready for work. Came back to the TV with 34 needed off 3 and 2 overs later I loved T20 cricket.
Should have seen the UK coverage. Less than 5 mins after, Robert Key was going on sboit how it’s now time to focus on the big one, the Ashes.
KP is a good pundit with good insight. Always surprises me how softly spoken he is though.
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@donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.
@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.
Yep. Mate of mine took his cricket-mad & Pieterson-mad son down to Southampton to watch Warne & Pieterson play. They waited outside the dressing room with about 20 other kids and Pieterson simply barged thru, ignoring them and went straight to his car. Warnie spent 30 minutes with the kids, signing everything in sight and giving an impromptu coaching session.
But that's the difference between a dickhead and a genuine cricket great.
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@delicatessen It is a bit of a crapshoot and likely to be dictated by who wins the toss.
In that regard, Pakistan won the toss vs India, us and Afghanistan.
They thumped India (but, so did we).
But, we had them in significant trouble at 87/5 - one more quick wicket and odds on we would have won that game - despite the disadvantage of losing the toss.
They also weren't particularly comfortable in beating Afghanistan.
They're a good team and could easily beat us - but, I'm a bit inclined to think they're not as formidable as their unbeaten run suggests. I'm significantly less worried about them than Oz.
@chris-b said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@delicatessen It is a bit of a crapshoot and likely to be dictated by who wins the toss.
In that regard, Pakistan won the toss vs India, us and Afghanistan.
They thumped India (but, so did we).
But, we had them in significant trouble at 87/5 - one more quick wicket and odds on we would have won that game - despite the disadvantage of losing the toss.
They also weren't particularly comfortable in beating Afghanistan.
They're a good team and could easily beat us - but, I'm a bit inclined to think they're not as formidable as their unbeaten run suggests. I'm significantly less worried about them than Oz.
Yeah, I forgot to talk about how close the Pakistan game was at times. Good point. Still, I think Australia is just as beatable.
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Ok, I will admit I didn't watch game etc, T20 just doesn't do it for me.
But I will say I am stunned what this team has done in making final. That is 3 finals in 3 years over 3 different formats!!
Someone has to remind these buggers that NZ isn't any good at cricket!!
Hell we just don't have the money, number of plaers etc etc to be able to do this. When I think I am old enough to be someone who just thought we had reached our absolute peak when we beat the Poms at Athletic Park way back in 70s!!!@dan54 said in T20 World Cup 2021:
Ok, I will admit I didn't watch game etc, T20 just doesn't do it for me.
But I will say I am stunned what this team has done in making final. That is 3 finals in 3 years over 3 different formats!!
Someone has to remind these buggers that NZ isn't any good at cricket!!
Hell we just don't have the money, number of plaers etc etc to be able to do this. When I think I am old enough to be someone who just thought we had reached our absolute peak when we beat the Poms at Athletic Park way back in 70s!!!Maybe we're not bad? Apparently the last time we lost to India in an ICC tournament was 2003 :grinning_squinting_face:
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@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.
Yep. Mate of mine took his cricket-mad & Pieterson-mad son down to Southampton to watch Warne & Pieterson play. They waited outside the dressing room with about 20 other kids and Pieterson simply barged thru, ignoring them and went straight to his car. Warnie spent 30 minutes with the kids, signing everything in sight and giving an impromptu coaching session.
But that's the difference between a dickhead and a genuine cricket great.
@victor-meldrew said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.
Yep. Mate of mine took his cricket-mad & Pieterson-mad son down to Southampton to watch Warne & Pieterson play. They waited outside the dressing room with about 20 other kids and Pieterson simply barged thru, ignoring them and went straight to his car. Warnie spent 30 minutes with the kids, signing everything in sight and giving an impromptu coaching session.
But that's the difference between a dickhead and a genuine cricket great.
Warnie was probably angling to see if any of them had fit mums...
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@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.
Yep. Mate of mine took his cricket-mad & Pieterson-mad son down to Southampton to watch Warne & Pieterson play. They waited outside the dressing room with about 20 other kids and Pieterson simply barged thru, ignoring them and went straight to his car. Warnie spent 30 minutes with the kids, signing everything in sight and giving an impromptu coaching session.
But that's the difference between a dickhead and a genuine cricket great.
@victor-meldrew said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.
Yep. Mate of mine took his cricket-mad & Pieterson-mad son down to Southampton to watch Warne & Pieterson play. They waited outside the dressing room with about 20 other kids and Pieterson simply barged thru, ignoring them and went straight to his car. Warnie spent 30 minutes with the kids, signing everything in sight and giving an impromptu coaching session.
But that's the difference between a dickhead and a genuine cricket great.
Pietersen was a fucken good player, very exciting to watch. Definitely in the top echelon of England batsmen. Can’t speak for his personality but he wasn’t too far below Warne in terms of cricket ability.
Warnie has at times proven himself to be a colossal dickwad at times too.
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So glad I got up to watch delayed this morning. Meant a late finish at work but I was buzzing all day. Kudos to the NZ fielding, the bowling of Timmy and Trent the positive spirit and the calm approach of our batsmen under huge pressure. Woakes bowled extremely well for 3 overs but the player who saw him off in that spell knew how to destroy him at the end. And nice to 'father of Daryl Mitchell' watching proudly in the stands. Amazing displays by Conway and Neesham too. What a team!
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did we win the game at the toss
gotta say, didn't expect to see this when i woke up. These boys never fail to surprise me
I'm a petty guy, but part of my enjoyment in this is social media. I fucking loooove watching the mental gymnastics Indian fans have to perform to argue they are still the best team in the world across all formats. And how we're plucky underdogs who keep getting lucky.
lol fuck off Ranjit, your team of mentally weak millionaires just suck a bit.
If Pakistan make the final, we're a chance. If Australia make the final we are fucked.
@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:
did we win the game at the toss
gotta say, didn't expect to see this when i woke up. These boys never fail to surprise me
I'm a petty guy, but part of my enjoyment in this is social media. I fucking loooove watching the mental gymnastics Indian fans have to perform to argue they are still the best team in the world across all formats. And how we're plucky underdogs who keep getting lucky.
lol fuck off Ranjit, your team of mentally weak millionaires just suck a bit.
If Pakistan make the final, we're a chance. If Australia make the final we are fucked.
Kinda want Aus to make the final, and obviously us beat them.
That way we will have beaten India, England AND Australia. All the fucking selfish power broking arsewipes.
Would make it that much sweeter.
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@donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.
@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.
Yeah, but still fun to point and laugh
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@canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:
Aussie are our kryptonite.
Think you're fucking Superman?
We've got a lot of work to do to get past Pakistan yet.
@nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:
Aussie are our kryptonite.
Think you're fucking Superman?
We've got a lot of work to do to get past Pakistan yet.
What was the last world championship final your guys played in ... and won?
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@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:
did we win the game at the toss
gotta say, didn't expect to see this when i woke up. These boys never fail to surprise me
I'm a petty guy, but part of my enjoyment in this is social media. I fucking loooove watching the mental gymnastics Indian fans have to perform to argue they are still the best team in the world across all formats. And how we're plucky underdogs who keep getting lucky.
lol fuck off Ranjit, your team of mentally weak millionaires just suck a bit.
If Pakistan make the final, we're a chance. If Australia make the final we are fucked.
Kinda want Aus to make the final, and obviously us beat them.
That way we will have beaten India, England AND Australia. All the fucking selfish power broking arsewipes.
Would make it that much sweeter.
@booboo said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:
did we win the game at the toss
gotta say, didn't expect to see this when i woke up. These boys never fail to surprise me
I'm a petty guy, but part of my enjoyment in this is social media. I fucking loooove watching the mental gymnastics Indian fans have to perform to argue they are still the best team in the world across all formats. And how we're plucky underdogs who keep getting lucky.
lol fuck off Ranjit, your team of mentally weak millionaires just suck a bit.
If Pakistan make the final, we're a chance. If Australia make the final we are fucked.
Kinda want Aus to make the final, and obviously us beat them.
That way we will have beaten India, England AND Australia. All the fucking selfish power broking arsewipes.
Would make it that much sweeter.
It would be good, ha ha reminds me of a South Park episode
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@nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:
Aussie are our kryptonite.
Think you're fucking Superman?
We've got a lot of work to do to get past Pakistan yet.
What was the last world championship final your guys played in ... and won?
@booboo said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:
Aussie are our kryptonite.
Think you're fucking Superman?
We've got a lot of work to do to get past Pakistan yet.
What was the last world championship final your guys played in ... and won?
I was in Melbourne in 2015. We got pumped. Aussie had an awesome bowling attack. Relentless
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@booboo said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:
Aussie are our kryptonite.
Think you're fucking Superman?
We've got a lot of work to do to get past Pakistan yet.
What was the last world championship final your guys played in ... and won?
I was in Melbourne in 2015. We got pumped. Aussie had an awesome bowling attack. Relentless
@canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@booboo said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:
Aussie are our kryptonite.
Think you're fucking Superman?
We've got a lot of work to do to get past Pakistan yet.
What was the last world championship final your guys played in ... and won?
I was in Melbourne in 2015. We got pumped. Aussie had an awesome bowling attack. Relentless
2015 ... jeez 6 and a half years ago. That's like basically 10 years ago.
So Australia hasn't won anything for over 10 years, and since then we've won the Test Championship and not lost the ODI CWC.
How's my logic?
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@canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@booboo said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:
@canefan said in T20 World Cup 2021:
Aussie are our kryptonite.
Think you're fucking Superman?
We've got a lot of work to do to get past Pakistan yet.
What was the last world championship final your guys played in ... and won?
I was in Melbourne in 2015. We got pumped. Aussie had an awesome bowling attack. Relentless
2015 ... jeez 6 and a half years ago. That's like basically 10 years ago.
So Australia hasn't won anything for over 10 years, and since then we've won the Test Championship and not lost the ODI CWC.
How's my logic?
