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T20 World Cup 2021

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    @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

    Seriously, massive game, won’t be too much sleep that night and it is genuinely impossible to call with any confidence.

    T20 is a toss of a coin. Literally.

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    @nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:

    @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

    Seriously, massive game, won’t be too much sleep that night and it is genuinely impossible to call with any confidence.

    T20 is a toss of a coin. Literally.

    We’ve got Kane tossing so we’re fucked #gettingexcusesinearly

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      I've watched it live and just watched a replay and that was something else from Wade. Talk about not being rattled about being dropped and making hay! That middle six was massive.

      I'm ultra pleased for Shoiab Akthar!! Tool!

      Am gutted for the poor soul who dropped Wade though. That will haunt you for a very long time I imagine.

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        My rant earlier about squad make up. Is actually irrelevant as only replacement could be keeper. So can only be Seiffert.

        As for outside of squad, yes Latham an option, but not part of our T20 plans over years, and I do like our test openers not spreading their time too thinly.

        So, I retract.

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        • bayimportsB Do not disturb
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          T20 again shows the coin toss nature of the game, although some great power hitting from Wade at the end, it was no surprise to me that Pak would cave under finals pressure and in this case the dropped catch ensued.

          My NZ to lose to Aus in the final outlay at the TAB looking juicy especially with Conway gone. However a bit like @MN5 , I am more annoyed about his lack of availiablity for tests than anything else. Bah now we look screwed for final and tests.

          Having to rely on Siefert and Phillips gives me no confidence, nor on Guppy's footwork to Aus pace attack.

          Ok bowlers, looks like you will have to do all the work again!

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          • RapidoR Rapido

            My rant earlier about squad make up. Is actually irrelevant as only replacement could be keeper. So can only be Seiffert.

            As for outside of squad, yes Latham an option, but not part of our T20 plans over years, and I do like our test openers not spreading their time too thinly.

            So, I retract.

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            #616

            @rapido said in T20 World Cup 2021:

            My rant earlier about squad make up. Is actually irrelevant as only replacement could be keeper. So can only be Seiffert.

            As for outside of squad, yes Latham an option, but not part of our T20 plans over years, and I do like our test openers not spreading their time too thinly.

            So, I retract.

            Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

            I agree on the squad though, too many all rounders who are not a legit threat with the bat and insufficient cover for an injury to a legitimate batsman like Kane/Guppy/Conway.

            This is where Ross Taylor needs to jet over there for an Alfie Langer moment.

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            • rotatedR rotated

              @rapido said in T20 World Cup 2021:

              My rant earlier about squad make up. Is actually irrelevant as only replacement could be keeper. So can only be Seiffert.

              As for outside of squad, yes Latham an option, but not part of our T20 plans over years, and I do like our test openers not spreading their time too thinly.

              So, I retract.

              Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

              I agree on the squad though, too many all rounders who are not a legit threat with the bat and insufficient cover for an injury to a legitimate batsman like Kane/Guppy/Conway.

              This is where Ross Taylor needs to jet over there for an Alfie Langer moment.

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              @rotated said in T20 World Cup 2021:

              @rapido said in T20 World Cup 2021:

              My rant earlier about squad make up. Is actually irrelevant as only replacement could be keeper. So can only be Seiffert.

              As for outside of squad, yes Latham an option, but not part of our T20 plans over years, and I do like our test openers not spreading their time too thinly.

              So, I retract.

              Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

              I agree on the squad though, too many all rounders who are not a legit threat with the bat and insufficient cover for an injury to a legitimate batsman like Kane/Guppy/Conway.

              This is where Ross Taylor needs to jet over there for an Alfie Langer moment.

              Takes me back to when Dipak Patel, Shane Thomson and Justin Vaughan were playing.

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                #618

                Pretty awesome finish from Aus, to do it with an over to spare was insane in the end. And the fact that it was Wade doing the hitting - even more remarkable.

                Defending totals is proving extremely difficult in this tournament, even when the side batting first puts runs on the board. Bring on the final and let's hope like fuck we win the toss. Beating Aus would be extremely sweet, and would mean we have beaten England, India and Aus in the last 3 ICC trophy finals (I just choose to ignore the ICC awarding the CWC to England despite losing on wickets).

                The Black Caps being the best side in the world across all formats is extremely difficult to wrap my head around. What a golden age we are in right now.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  Pretty awesome finish from Aus, to do it with an over to spare was insane in the end. And the fact that it was Wade doing the hitting - even more remarkable.

                  Defending totals is proving extremely difficult in this tournament, even when the side batting first puts runs on the board. Bring on the final and let's hope like fuck we win the toss. Beating Aus would be extremely sweet, and would mean we have beaten England, India and Aus in the last 3 ICC trophy finals (I just choose to ignore the ICC awarding the CWC to England despite losing on wickets).

                  The Black Caps being the best side in the world across all formats is extremely difficult to wrap my head around. What a golden age we are in right now.

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                  @no-quarter said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                  Pretty awesome finish from Aus, to do it with an over to spare in the end was insane in the end. And the fact that it was Wade doing the hitting - even more remarkable.

                  good article by Kimber:

                  https://wickets.substack.com/p/matty-wades-scrap-and-pakistans-predictability?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNDgzMjQzLCJwb3N0X2lkIjo0MzkxODg4NCwiXyI6InhFbW5EIiwiaWF0IjoxNjM2Njc5MTMwLCJleHAiOjE2MzY2ODI3MzAsImlzcyI6InB1Yi01MTI0MCIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.DiyXi24yZ-N2B-z4ZVFB0QFPZ_fmIt0zrBzqxWKSuPI

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                    As Kaptain Kane said, the longer you stay in the game batting second the more chance you are. In T20 a handful of swings that connect well will completely chance the game.
                    Close your eyes and hope.

                    It's why batting second is so key.

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      As Kaptain Kane said, the longer you stay in the game batting second the more chance you are. In T20 a handful of swings that connect well will completely chance the game.
                      Close your eyes and hope.

                      It's why batting second is so key.

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                      @crucial said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                      It's why batting second is so key.

                      I thought that this morning - maybe the old adage of 'runs on the board' doesnt' apply in the modern game?

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                        This just popped up on a Facebook comment...

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                        • HoorooH Hooroo

                          I've watched it live and just watched a replay and that was something else from Wade. Talk about not being rattled about being dropped and making hay! That middle six was massive.

                          I'm ultra pleased for Shoiab Akthar!! Tool!

                          Am gutted for the poor soul who dropped Wade though. That will haunt you for a very long time I imagine.

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                          @hooroo said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                          I've watched it live and just watched a replay and that was something else from Wade. Talk about not being rattled about being dropped and making hay! That middle six was massive.

                          I'm ultra pleased for Shoiab Akthar!! Tool!

                          Am gutted for the poor soul who dropped Wade though. That will haunt you for a very long time I imagine.

                          I admire your confidence that he has any life expectancy at all once he gets back to Pakistan.

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                          • JCJ JC

                            @hooroo said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                            I've watched it live and just watched a replay and that was something else from Wade. Talk about not being rattled about being dropped and making hay! That middle six was massive.

                            I'm ultra pleased for Shoiab Akthar!! Tool!

                            Am gutted for the poor soul who dropped Wade though. That will haunt you for a very long time I imagine.

                            I admire your confidence that he has any life expectancy at all once he gets back to Pakistan.

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                            @jc said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                            @hooroo said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                            I've watched it live and just watched a replay and that was something else from Wade. Talk about not being rattled about being dropped and making hay! That middle six was massive.

                            I'm ultra pleased for Shoiab Akthar!! Tool!

                            Am gutted for the poor soul who dropped Wade though. That will haunt you for a very long time I imagine.

                            I admire your confidence that he has any life expectancy at all once he gets back to Pakistan.

                            This meme was on the same post as the image above. Let's hope it's not taken too literally by some of the fans...

                            alt text

                            Cricket Memes/Sledges

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                            • rotatedR rotated

                              @rapido said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                              My rant earlier about squad make up. Is actually irrelevant as only replacement could be keeper. So can only be Seiffert.

                              As for outside of squad, yes Latham an option, but not part of our T20 plans over years, and I do like our test openers not spreading their time too thinly.

                              So, I retract.

                              Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

                              I agree on the squad though, too many all rounders who are not a legit threat with the bat and insufficient cover for an injury to a legitimate batsman like Kane/Guppy/Conway.

                              This is where Ross Taylor needs to jet over there for an Alfie Langer moment.

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                              Chris B.
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                              @rotated said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                              Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

                              Chapman was probably the biggest surprise to me in our squad.

                              I think Seifert has to play and we just have to play with freedom and hope that our big guns come off.

                              Devon is a big big loss though, because he's basically Kane Mk II. He should have pulled a Richie and not got his hand scanned - just play son! 🙂

                              For India (tests) - does Will Young open - or can Blundell open and keep wicket? Or do we call someone up to fulfil one of those roles (opener or keeper).

                              For the first time in our history we can sustain a loss of this magnitude with a credible alternative.

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                                TAB has Oz $1.65 NZ $2.15

                                Realistic, I think.

                                Would have been significantly closer to evens if Conway was playing, but man-for-man now, we don't win in many places.

                                Guppy = Finch
                                Williamson > Marsh
                                Neesham = Stoinis
                                Boult = Starc
                                Sodhi > Maxwell/Stoinis as a 5th bowler

                                We're significantly brighter than Australians, so there's that to fall back on! 🙂

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @rotated said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                  Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

                                  Chapman was probably the biggest surprise to me in our squad.

                                  I think Seifert has to play and we just have to play with freedom and hope that our big guns come off.

                                  Devon is a big big loss though, because he's basically Kane Mk II. He should have pulled a Richie and not got his hand scanned - just play son! 🙂

                                  For India (tests) - does Will Young open - or can Blundell open and keep wicket? Or do we call someone up to fulfil one of those roles (opener or keeper).

                                  For the first time in our history we can sustain a loss of this magnitude with a credible alternative.

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                                  @chris-b said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                  @rotated said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                  Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

                                  Chapman was probably the biggest surprise to me in our squad.

                                  I think Seifert has to play and we just have to play with freedom and hope that our big guns come off.

                                  Devon is a big big loss though, because he's basically Kane Mk II. He should have pulled a Richie and not got his hand scanned - just play son! 🙂

                                  For India (tests) - does Will Young open - or can Blundell open and keep wicket? Or do we call someone up to fulfil one of those roles (opener or keeper).

                                  For the first time in our history we can sustain a loss of this magnitude with a credible alternative.

                                  I think that Will Young will open in the tests.

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                                    This one falls on the shoulders of our bowlers IMO.
                                    Convicts are stacked with players that swing hard at anything in their zone. It’s up to our guys to not be cute with slow balls but to put the ball into areas that aren’t in their swinging arc.
                                    THEN we need to bat well.
                                    Oh, and win the toss.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      This one falls on the shoulders of our bowlers IMO.
                                      Convicts are stacked with players that swing hard at anything in their zone. It’s up to our guys to not be cute with slow balls but to put the ball into areas that aren’t in their swinging arc.
                                      THEN we need to bat well.
                                      Oh, and win the toss.

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                                      @crucial Yeah - except, slow balls are an integral part.

                                      They've just got to be used judiciously!

                                      In this regard I am from the Monty Burns school of coaching.

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                        @donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.

                                        Yep. Mate of mine took his cricket-mad & Pieterson-mad son down to Southampton to watch Warne & Pieterson play. They waited outside the dressing room with about 20 other kids and Pieterson simply barged thru, ignoring them and went straight to his car. Warnie spent 30 minutes with the kids, signing everything in sight and giving an impromptu coaching session.

                                        But that's the difference between a dickhead and a genuine cricket great.

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                                        @victor-meldrew said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                        @mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                        @donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.

                                        Yep. Mate of mine took his cricket-mad & Pieterson-mad son down to Southampton to watch Warne & Pieterson play. They waited outside the dressing room with about 20 other kids and Pieterson simply barged thru, ignoring them and went straight to his car. Warnie spent 30 minutes with the kids, signing everything in sight and giving an impromptu coaching session.

                                        But that's the difference between a dickhead and a genuine cricket great.

                                        I had a mate who had to chaperone Warnie for some promotional work. Said he was a great guy - really easy to get on with. An awesome commentator as well. Cocky of course.

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                          You guys found a keeper who can bat yet ?

                                          🤔

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                                          🤔

                                          Maybe....

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                                          @nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                          @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                                          You guys found a keeper who can bat yet ?

                                          🤔

                                          6f4d8e16-8ebb-4e9a-9a01-aa04f5b55989-image.png

                                          🤔

                                          Maybe....

                                          Your ability to remember crap like this makes me wonder if you are Nicola The Aussie

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