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T20 World Cup 2021

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    @rapido said in T20 World Cup 2021:

    My rant earlier about squad make up. Is actually irrelevant as only replacement could be keeper. So can only be Seiffert.

    As for outside of squad, yes Latham an option, but not part of our T20 plans over years, and I do like our test openers not spreading their time too thinly.

    So, I retract.

    Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

    I agree on the squad though, too many all rounders who are not a legit threat with the bat and insufficient cover for an injury to a legitimate batsman like Kane/Guppy/Conway.

    This is where Ross Taylor needs to jet over there for an Alfie Langer moment.

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    @rotated said in T20 World Cup 2021:

    Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

    Chapman was probably the biggest surprise to me in our squad.

    I think Seifert has to play and we just have to play with freedom and hope that our big guns come off.

    Devon is a big big loss though, because he's basically Kane Mk II. He should have pulled a Richie and not got his hand scanned - just play son! ๐Ÿ™‚

    For India (tests) - does Will Young open - or can Blundell open and keep wicket? Or do we call someone up to fulfil one of those roles (opener or keeper).

    For the first time in our history we can sustain a loss of this magnitude with a credible alternative.

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      #626

      TAB has Oz $1.65 NZ $2.15

      Realistic, I think.

      Would have been significantly closer to evens if Conway was playing, but man-for-man now, we don't win in many places.

      Guppy = Finch
      Williamson > Marsh
      Neesham = Stoinis
      Boult = Starc
      Sodhi > Maxwell/Stoinis as a 5th bowler

      We're significantly brighter than Australians, so there's that to fall back on! ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @rotated said in T20 World Cup 2021:

        Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

        Chapman was probably the biggest surprise to me in our squad.

        I think Seifert has to play and we just have to play with freedom and hope that our big guns come off.

        Devon is a big big loss though, because he's basically Kane Mk II. He should have pulled a Richie and not got his hand scanned - just play son! ๐Ÿ™‚

        For India (tests) - does Will Young open - or can Blundell open and keep wicket? Or do we call someone up to fulfil one of those roles (opener or keeper).

        For the first time in our history we can sustain a loss of this magnitude with a credible alternative.

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        @chris-b said in T20 World Cup 2021:

        @rotated said in T20 World Cup 2021:

        Chapman could play and Phillips could keep.

        Chapman was probably the biggest surprise to me in our squad.

        I think Seifert has to play and we just have to play with freedom and hope that our big guns come off.

        Devon is a big big loss though, because he's basically Kane Mk II. He should have pulled a Richie and not got his hand scanned - just play son! ๐Ÿ™‚

        For India (tests) - does Will Young open - or can Blundell open and keep wicket? Or do we call someone up to fulfil one of those roles (opener or keeper).

        For the first time in our history we can sustain a loss of this magnitude with a credible alternative.

        I think that Will Young will open in the tests.

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          This one falls on the shoulders of our bowlers IMO.
          Convicts are stacked with players that swing hard at anything in their zone. Itโ€™s up to our guys to not be cute with slow balls but to put the ball into areas that arenโ€™t in their swinging arc.
          THEN we need to bat well.
          Oh, and win the toss.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            This one falls on the shoulders of our bowlers IMO.
            Convicts are stacked with players that swing hard at anything in their zone. Itโ€™s up to our guys to not be cute with slow balls but to put the ball into areas that arenโ€™t in their swinging arc.
            THEN we need to bat well.
            Oh, and win the toss.

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            wrote on last edited by
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            @crucial Yeah - except, slow balls are an integral part.

            They've just got to be used judiciously!

            In this regard I am from the Monty Burns school of coaching.

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:

              @donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.

              Yep. Mate of mine took his cricket-mad & Pieterson-mad son down to Southampton to watch Warne & Pieterson play. They waited outside the dressing room with about 20 other kids and Pieterson simply barged thru, ignoring them and went straight to his car. Warnie spent 30 minutes with the kids, signing everything in sight and giving an impromptu coaching session.

              But that's the difference between a dickhead and a genuine cricket great.

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              @victor-meldrew said in T20 World Cup 2021:

              @mariner4life said in T20 World Cup 2021:

              @donsteppa yeah well KP is just a giant fuckhead so it's very easy to ignore anything that he produces.

              Yep. Mate of mine took his cricket-mad & Pieterson-mad son down to Southampton to watch Warne & Pieterson play. They waited outside the dressing room with about 20 other kids and Pieterson simply barged thru, ignoring them and went straight to his car. Warnie spent 30 minutes with the kids, signing everything in sight and giving an impromptu coaching session.

              But that's the difference between a dickhead and a genuine cricket great.

              I had a mate who had to chaperone Warnie for some promotional work. Said he was a great guy - really easy to get on with. An awesome commentator as well. Cocky of course.

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              • NTAN NTA

                @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                You guys found a keeper who can bat yet ?

                ๐Ÿค”

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                ๐Ÿค”

                Maybe....

                MajorStokesM Away
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                MajorStokes
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                @nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                You guys found a keeper who can bat yet ?

                ๐Ÿค”

                6f4d8e16-8ebb-4e9a-9a01-aa04f5b55989-image.png

                ๐Ÿค”

                Maybe....

                Your ability to remember crap like this makes me wonder if you are Nicola The Aussie

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                  @majorrage said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                  @nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                  @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                  You guys found a keeper who can bat yet ?

                  ๐Ÿค”

                  6f4d8e16-8ebb-4e9a-9a01-aa04f5b55989-image.png

                  ๐Ÿค”

                  Maybe....

                  Your ability to remember crap like this makes me wonder if you are Nicola The Aussie

                  Let's face it: the lack of subtlety from @MN5 makes it pretty easy to remember his attempts at shitposting.

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                    #633

                    Having reflected a bit overnight, I think last night was the worst possible result for the BCs. We already have a bit of a mental block against the Aussies, it's not a great matchup for us as they're strengths negate a lot of our strengths relative to the other teams (bowling and fielding mainly), and we're now without one of our top 3 batsmen - a guy who's a bit of tweener between Guptill's all or nothing hard hitting and Kane's more measured approach.

                    But the "out of nowhere" nature of Straya's victory last night, IMO, will give them much more confidence and belief than a complete demolition would have. Importantly, the weaker links in their team will now be full of confidence and belief, but the top order will also now feel they have a bit more freedom to play aggressively, knowing that the middle order guys have the minerals to see them home if necessary.

                    The same can obviously be said for us, but Dev was a big part of our rescue op on Wednesday and our tail is much longer than the Aussies'. Plus, they have more hitting power throughout their batting lineup. We have historically struggled with their pace and bounce, while their have struggled with our and others' swing at times. It might just come down to a battle of the spinners where maybe - just maybe - we have slight advantage. Ish seems like he could be a pivotal figure, whatever the outcome.

                    What does this all mean for Sunday? Probably nothing, but I'll probably be there watching and having been there also in 2015 clearly I'm on the descent of the pre-match emotional rollercoaster and so need to let off some steam

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                      You guys found a keeper who can bat yet ?

                      ๐Ÿค”

                      6f4d8e16-8ebb-4e9a-9a01-aa04f5b55989-image.png

                      ๐Ÿค”

                      Maybe....

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                      #634

                      @nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                      @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                      You guys found a keeper who can bat yet ?

                      ๐Ÿค”

                      6f4d8e16-8ebb-4e9a-9a01-aa04f5b55989-image.png

                      ๐Ÿค”

                      Maybe....

                      Is there an option to moderate @NTA posting if he starts dragging up irrelevant statements that are best left in the past?

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                        https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/t20-world-cup-final-old-scarborough-friends-daryl-mitchell-and-marcus-stoinis-turn-international-foes-1288932

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          @majorrage said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                          @nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                          @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                          You guys found a keeper who can bat yet ?

                          ๐Ÿค”

                          6f4d8e16-8ebb-4e9a-9a01-aa04f5b55989-image.png

                          ๐Ÿค”

                          Maybe....

                          Your ability to remember crap like this makes me wonder if you are Nicola The Aussie

                          Let's face it: the lack of subtlety from @MN5 makes it pretty easy to remember his attempts at shitposting.

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                          #636

                          @nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                          @majorrage said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                          @nta said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                          @mn5 said in T20 World Cup 2021:

                          You guys found a keeper who can bat yet ?

                          ๐Ÿค”

                          6f4d8e16-8ebb-4e9a-9a01-aa04f5b55989-image.png

                          ๐Ÿค”

                          Maybe....

                          Your ability to remember crap like this makes me wonder if you are Nicola The Aussie

                          Let's face it: the lack of subtlety from @MN5 makes it pretty easy to remember his attempts at shitposting.

                          I have to step up when @Virgil isnโ€™t around

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                            Duluth
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                            #637

                            https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-men-s-t20-world-cup-2021-22-1267897/australia-vs-new-zealand-final-1273756/match-preview

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                              canefan
                              wrote on last edited by canefan
                              #638

                              New Zealand have never beaten Australia in any knockout match. They have played each in 17 quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals, out of which Australia have won 16. The one that New Zealand won wasn't a knockout but the first of the best-of-five finals in 1981, a series that New Zealand eventually lost. Australia have won all the four knockout matches between them at ICC events.

                              Concerning. They don't fear us. They know they get the best of us when it matters. If we can topple them it will be a massive moment in our history.

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                New Zealand have never beaten Australia in any knockout match. They have played each in 17 quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals, out of which Australia have won 16. The one that New Zealand won wasn't a knockout but the first of the best-of-five finals in 1981, a series that New Zealand eventually lost. Australia have won all the four knockout matches between them at ICC events.

                                Concerning. They don't fear us. They know they get the best of us when it matters. If we can topple them it will be a massive moment in our history.

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                                nzzp
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                                @canefan no downside right?

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                                  Donsteppa
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                                  #640

                                  Can't wait!

                                  Six hours to go ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                    NTA
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #641

                                    Kiwis win toss, put Australia in, and chase down 175 with 3 balls and 4 wickets to spare.

                                    What the fuck do I know? I've watched about half a dozen highlights packages....

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                                      Yeetyaah
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #642

                                      Not much of a cricket watcher but decided to get up and support the lads. Let's gooooo.

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                                        wrote on last edited by sparky
                                        #643

                                        Australia win the toss and are bowling. Williamson is a useless tosser. Hope he does better with the bat.

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                                          Lets go!

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