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All Blacks vs USA

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    • ChrisC Offline
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      That training run and really that’s all it was, Will not make any impact on selections for Wales,Foster and the selectors will have already have their 23 locked in for The Wales game.
      You can’t judge anyone on that game except TJ because if you pass that shit against that opposition then there is not much hope with pressure on from better teams,the opposition were worse than a club team .

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      • MN5M MN5

        @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

        I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.

        He's not even on the field?

        Not that you’d notice anyway

        What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?

        You're a Scotland supporter?

        In another dimension I might be understanding this.

        There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team

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        @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

        @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

        I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.

        He's not even on the field?

        Not that you’d notice anyway

        What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?

        You're a Scotland supporter?

        In another dimension I might be understanding this.

        There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team

        You don't have a single Bridge in Scotland? Well, I guess that explains the kilts.

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        • NTAN NTA

          Well, I hope the sponsor money was worth it; a 90-point flogging and 2 tries conceded by an AB team that looked like it could care less about structure, and more about entertaining themselves. It was loose when the USA were still waking up in the first half, then The Dickhead Brigade came on in Coles and TJP and it just got stupid.

          Feel a bit for the USA - the fitness and cohesion was clearly second-rate, and tho they stuck at it, and a couple of their guys were impressive (7, 9 and 13 particularly) there just wasn't enough across the board to hold the opposition. Include their Euro stars and maybe they hold the ABs to 80. Doubt it tho.

          That kid playing 12 for the ABs is impressive. One of the few out there who looked like he gave a shit about doing his job rather than just constantly trying to offload and make some fancy bullshit up on the spot.

          Got to be concerned at the USA's intention to host RWC when their biggest game of the year isn't even played in a regulation stadium. That field was marked 5m outside the NFL paint, which makes it only about 60m wide. How are they going to provide the preferred 70m width and 100m length with 6m ingoals - and a 5m margin around all that - by the time 2027 rolls around?

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          @nta nice take Aussie.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            ABs would have been better off if Perenara had signed with the Roosters. ABs looked better when Christie was on.

            Didn't look like any injuries which is good.

            Hard to read too much into much else. Could have been an even bigger scoreline if the ABs had picked a left wing who is an actual attacking threat.

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            @kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs USA:

            ABs would have been better off if Perenara had signed with the Roosters. ABs looked better when Christie was on.

            Didn't look like any injuries which is good.

            Hard to read too much into much else. Could have been an even bigger scoreline if the ABs had picked a left wing who is an actual attacking threat.

            That’s not saying much because Christie is not that good. But if a gulf because Smith and what we have.

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs USA:

              Haven't read the thread but udging by the post above others are thinking along the same lines - the biggest take from the game for me is that it is well and truly time to put TJ out to pasture.

              A real shame. I thought he was going to be something special when he first came on the scene but I reckon he has never been the same since his leg injury a few years ago.

              He doesn't pass with his legs!
              His support play is still top notch it's the distribution that is crap.

              Maybe it stuffed him mentally?

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              @crazy-horse I agree. Probably reading the social media and press and mentally screwed. When he was at his peak he offered something that Smith did not. Different type of player. The top 4 inches is important. Ask Tiger.

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.

                He's not even on the field?

                Not that you’d notice anyway

                What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?

                You're a Scotland supporter?

                In another dimension I might be understanding this.

                There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team

                You don't have a single Bridge in Scotland? Well, I guess that explains the kilts.

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                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.

                He's not even on the field?

                Not that you’d notice anyway

                What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?

                You're a Scotland supporter?

                In another dimension I might be understanding this.

                There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team

                You don't have a single Bridge in Scotland? Well, I guess that explains the kilts.

                Lots of Bridges in Scotland. Difference is that they all go somewhere.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.

                  He's not even on the field?

                  Not that you’d notice anyway

                  What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?

                  You're a Scotland supporter?

                  In another dimension I might be understanding this.

                  There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team

                  You don't have a single Bridge in Scotland? Well, I guess that explains the kilts.

                  Lots of Bridges in Scotland. Difference is that they all go somewhere.

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                  nostrildamus
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                  @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.

                  He's not even on the field?

                  Not that you’d notice anyway

                  What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?

                  You're a Scotland supporter?

                  In another dimension I might be understanding this.

                  There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team

                  You don't have a single Bridge in Scotland? Well, I guess that explains the kilts.

                  Lots of Bridges in Scotland. Difference is that they all go somewhere.

                  May I present the George Belhaven Memorial Bridge.
                  Hiding out on the wing for Southern Scotland, it can link on the odd occasion but is often stranded and isolated, especially when the pressure is on.
                  Depending on your browser, the bridge might be a tad invisible, or show (here) the wrong Bridge, one that gets you places .
                  Rest assured, on its day, (or tide), it's a playmaker.
                  https://hiddenscotland.co/listings/belhaven-bridge/

                  Better photos here: https://unusualplaces.org/the-bridge-to-nowhere-belhaven-bridge/

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.

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                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

                    TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.

                    Vai'i was pretty average I thought, he was the worst at stupid offloads and gave away a few stupid penalties. Busy, yes, but not accurate enough

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                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

                      TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.

                      Vai'i was pretty average I thought, he was the worst at stupid offloads and gave away a few stupid penalties. Busy, yes, but not accurate enough

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                      @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

                      TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.

                      Vai'i was pretty average I thought, he was the worst at stupid offloads and gave away a few stupid penalties. Busy, yes, but not accurate enough

                      I must have missed them, and the stats only have him with one turnover, 1 penalty conceded (edited thanks to Bovidae), 7 tackles made (none missed), and 10 passes (2nd in forwards), 12 runs (highest in forwards), 34 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 clean break, 1 offload.

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                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.

                        Vai'i was pretty average I thought, he was the worst at stupid offloads and gave away a few stupid penalties. Busy, yes, but not accurate enough

                        I only just watched on demand…I was going to pick vai’i as one of my three players of the match, very busy and still young so that’s the first think I look for in a young guy, enthusiasm and effort, compared to bridge who I think did almost nothing wrong…but had no effect on a game at all…I’d prefer enthusiasm

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                          @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                          I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                          Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                              I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                              Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

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                              @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                              I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                              Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                              Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

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                              • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

                                OK, can someone explain the hairstyle atrocity adopted by so many of the All Blacks - Mo’unga and Tupea and Havili among them? They’re all sporting this curly perm at the back of their heads. Like an ‘80s mullet but teased into tight curls. My avatar Earle Kirton is spinning in his grave.

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                                @mrdenmore said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                OK, can someone explain the hairstyle atrocity adopted by so many of the All Blacks - Mo’unga and Tupea and Havili among them? They’re all sporting this curly perm at the back of their heads. Like an ‘80s mullet but teased into tight curls. My avatar Earle Kirton is spinning in his grave.

                                How do you spin in your grave if you’re alive ?

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                                • gt12G gt12

                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                  @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                                  I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                                  Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                                  Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

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                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                  @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                                  I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                                  Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                                  Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

                                  In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.

                                  Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                                    I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                                    Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                                    Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

                                    In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.

                                    Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.

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                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                                    I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                                    Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                                    Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

                                    In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.

                                    Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.

                                    Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?

                                    He supposedly has three.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                      @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                                      I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                                      Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                                      Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

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                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                      @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                      @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                                      I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                                      Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                                      Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

                                      The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                                        I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                                        Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                                        Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

                                        The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him

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                                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        @gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                                        I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                                        Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                                        Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

                                        The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him

                                        In the first 20 of the game???

                                        I think we only conceded one penalty during that time (ginga holding on) as pretty much every time we touched it we scored.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          @gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

                                          I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

                                          Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

                                          Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

                                          In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.

                                          Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.

                                          Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?

                                          He supposedly has three.

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                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?

                                          He supposedly has three.

                                          Sotutu definitely conceded at least 2 penalties, including a high tackle.

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