All Blacks vs USA
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs USA:
Haven't read the thread but udging by the post above others are thinking along the same lines - the biggest take from the game for me is that it is well and truly time to put TJ out to pasture.
A real shame. I thought he was going to be something special when he first came on the scene but I reckon he has never been the same since his leg injury a few years ago.
He doesn't pass with his legs!
His support play is still top notch it's the distribution that is crap.Maybe it stuffed him mentally?
@crazy-horse I agree. Probably reading the social media and press and mentally screwed. When he was at his peak he offered something that Smith did not. Different type of player. The top 4 inches is important. Ask Tiger.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.
He's not even on the field?
Not that you’d notice anyway
What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?
You're a Scotland supporter?
In another dimension I might be understanding this.
There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team
You don't have a single Bridge in Scotland? Well, I guess that explains the kilts.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.
He's not even on the field?
Not that you’d notice anyway
What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?
You're a Scotland supporter?
In another dimension I might be understanding this.
There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team
You don't have a single Bridge in Scotland? Well, I guess that explains the kilts.
Lots of Bridges in Scotland. Difference is that they all go somewhere.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.
He's not even on the field?
Not that you’d notice anyway
What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?
You're a Scotland supporter?
In another dimension I might be understanding this.
There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team
You don't have a single Bridge in Scotland? Well, I guess that explains the kilts.
Lots of Bridges in Scotland. Difference is that they all go somewhere.
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bones said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
I know we have a bit of a laugh giving Bridge stick but seriously if he can’t make any ground in a game like this it is time that the selectors took note.
He's not even on the field?
Not that you’d notice anyway
What if you can't defend your wing against a team of this calibre and a winger who's a nobody?
You're a Scotland supporter?
In another dimension I might be understanding this.
There’s no way Bridge would make the mighty Scottish team
You don't have a single Bridge in Scotland? Well, I guess that explains the kilts.
Lots of Bridges in Scotland. Difference is that they all go somewhere.
May I present the George Belhaven Memorial Bridge.
Hiding out on the wing for Southern Scotland, it can link on the odd occasion but is often stranded and isolated, especially when the pressure is on.
Depending on your browser, the bridge might be a tad invisible, or show (here) the wrong Bridge, one that gets you places .
Rest assured, on its day, (or tide), it's a playmaker.
https://hiddenscotland.co/listings/belhaven-bridge/Better photos here: https://unusualplaces.org/the-bridge-to-nowhere-belhaven-bridge/
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TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.
Vai'i was pretty average I thought, he was the worst at stupid offloads and gave away a few stupid penalties. Busy, yes, but not accurate enough
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.
Vai'i was pretty average I thought, he was the worst at stupid offloads and gave away a few stupid penalties. Busy, yes, but not accurate enough
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.
Vai'i was pretty average I thought, he was the worst at stupid offloads and gave away a few stupid penalties. Busy, yes, but not accurate enough
I must have missed them, and the stats only have him with one turnover, 1 penalty conceded (edited thanks to Bovidae), 7 tackles made (none missed), and 10 passes (2nd in forwards), 12 runs (highest in forwards), 34 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 clean break, 1 offload.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.
Vai'i was pretty average I thought, he was the worst at stupid offloads and gave away a few stupid penalties. Busy, yes, but not accurate enough
I only just watched on demand…I was going to pick vai’i as one of my three players of the match, very busy and still young so that’s the first think I look for in a young guy, enthusiasm and effort, compared to bridge who I think did almost nothing wrong…but had no effect on a game at all…I’d prefer enthusiasm
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@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
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OK, can someone explain the hairstyle atrocity adopted by so many of the All Blacks - Mo’unga and Tupea and Havili among them? They’re all sporting this curly perm at the back of their heads. Like an ‘80s mullet but teased into tight curls. My avatar Earle Kirton is spinning in his grave.
@mrdenmore said in All Blacks vs USA:
OK, can someone explain the hairstyle atrocity adopted by so many of the All Blacks - Mo’unga and Tupea and Havili among them? They’re all sporting this curly perm at the back of their heads. Like an ‘80s mullet but teased into tight curls. My avatar Earle Kirton is spinning in his grave.
How do you spin in your grave if you’re alive ?
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.
Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.
Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.
Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.
Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?
He supposedly has three.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him
In the first 20 of the game???
I think we only conceded one penalty during that time (ginga holding on) as pretty much every time we touched it we scored.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.
Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.
Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?
He supposedly has three.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him
In the first 20 of the game???
I think we only conceded one penalty during that time (ginga holding on) as pretty much every time we touched it we scored.
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him
In the first 20 of the game???
I think we only conceded one penalty during that time (ginga holding on) as pretty much every time we touched it we scored.
Sorry I was meaning unneeded offloads, anyway far too long ago to remember! Games not good enough for me to watch again, I'll concede I could be talking utter bollocks, but that was my impression. Too many errors
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?
He supposedly has three.
Sotutu definitely conceded at least 2 penalties, including a high tackle.
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?
He supposedly has three.
Sotutu definitely conceded at least 2 penalties, including a high tackle.
Yeah Sotutu got one at 22:30... not doing a Nisbo are you @Machpants
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?
He supposedly has three.
Sotutu definitely conceded at least 2 penalties, including a high tackle.
Yeah Sotutu got one at 22:30... not doing a Nisbo are you @Machpants
?@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?
He supposedly has three.
Sotutu definitely conceded at least 2 penalties, including a high tackle.
Yeah Sotutu got one at 22:30... not doing a Nisbo are you @Machpants
?Quite possibly!
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him
In the first 20 of the game???
I think we only conceded one penalty during that time (ginga holding on) as pretty much every time we touched it we scored.
Sorry I was meaning unneeded offloads, anyway far too long ago to remember! Games not good enough for me to watch again, I'll concede I could be talking utter bollocks, but that was my impression. Too many errors
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.
I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.
Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.
Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?
The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him
In the first 20 of the game???
I think we only conceded one penalty during that time (ginga holding on) as pretty much every time we touched it we scored.
Sorry I was meaning unneeded offloads, anyway far too long ago to remember! Games not good enough for me to watch Sassoon, I'll concede I could be talking utter bollocks, but that was my impression. Too many errors
I think you're very harsh.
I can only see one error during the first 22 minutes, which is when he attempts a long pass which gets batted down and we score from anyway.
2:50 runs and takes the tackle
5:07 tries a long pass on their 5 metre line which is knocked down and De Groot picks it up to score
7:13 beautiful short ball to De Groot
11:23 runs and takes the tackle
11:52 passes behind the pod to McKenzie (we get penalty)
12:04 strong run and takes the tackle
15:50 wins lineout
19:20 nice short ball to QT
21:54: Runs and takes the tackle. -
I did he whole first half for Vaa'i - I think he was worse during this quarter in comparison to the first 20:
23:55: Runs to settle things down and takes the tackle. Next phase we score
27:55 loses the ball in the tackle with the line in sight but the tackle was high and we get the penalty
32:09 competes at the line out and knocks it on
35:02 this is the first bad one - it's an offload that didn't need to be thrown and goes to hand but was totally un-needed
35:11 Runs and takes the tackle
37:40 takes the kickoff and tackle
