Breaking news : Pope not Christian
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A bit of a stretch like saying that building walls and controlling illegal entry is not christian?</p></blockquote>
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Maybe.<br><br>
But I do find the views of many fundamentalist Christians very unChristian. And a hard and fast "fuck off we're full, we're not helping those foreigners" type attitude is similarly non-charitable and unChristian. So i do have sympathy for Frank's comments. -
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<p>Maybe.<br><br>
But I do find the views of many fundamentalist Christians very unChristian. And a hard and fast "fuck off we're full, we're not helping those foreigners" type attitude is similarly non-charitable and unChristian. So i do have sympathy for Frank's comments.</p>
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<p>Which is just bullshit of course. Ever tried to immigrate to the Vatican city? Does any worthwhile country not have a process? What Trump is proposing is 'not fuck off were full' it is... stop illegal immigrants. Does the Vatican city have no controls over who goes where and for how long inside its country? Like fuck it does. 'Frank' is a monumental hypocrite meddling in domestic politics that he has no business meddling with. I have no issue with any country building a wall or whatever it want so to stop the flow of illegal immigrants. It is a sovereign right of any country to control the flow. Is the Pope also saying hat the govt of Hungary is also un-christian? They built a wall to stop migrants... personally I dont think it was unchristain.. but basic common sense. What would you have advised Hungary to do?</p>
<p>I think Trump is a dangerous muppet, I think the wall will never work. I also think the Pope has stepped over a line... but he has a free pass as 1.2 billion people he is the right hand of the imaginary man in the sky.</p> -
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Which is just bullshit of course. Ever tried to immigrate to the Vatican city? Does any worthwhile country not have a process? What Trump is proposing is 'not fuck off were full' it is... stop illegal immigrants. Does the Vatican city have no controls over who goes where and for how long inside its country? Like fuck it does. 'Frank' is a monumental hypocrite meddling in domestic politics that he has no business meddling with. I have no issue with any country building a wall or whatever it want so to stop the flow of illegal immigrants. It is a sovereign right of any country to control the flow. Is the Pope also saying hat the govt of Hungary is also un-christian? They built a wall to stop migrants... personally I dont think it was unchristain.. but basic common sense. What would you have advised Hungary to do?<br>
I think Trump is a dangerous muppet, I think the wall will never work. I also think the Pope has stepped over a line... but he has a free pass as 1.2 billion people he is the right hand of the imaginary man in the sky.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That is the other thing that the Pope got horribly wrong. After all the nasty things Trump has done, screwing people over etc...</p>
<p>The Pope picked that to comment on? Seriously? How about 'a Christian does not bankrupt his own companies whilst making sure he personally is ok but screws over creditors and small investors' Far more accurate and fitting. But if he starts attacking the moral fibre of politicians... when would he stop?</p> -
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<p>Politicians tell other politicians from foreign nations how to act all the time.</p>
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<p>Yes? And?</p> -
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<p>Aaaaaaand you haven't started a thread for any of them.</p>
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<p>Correct. Not sure what your point is. Are you equating the pope to a politician? Actually I dont even care I will just assume you are trolling yet again.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="559583" data-time="1455866794"><p>Quite surprising I thought.<br>
Apparently building walls to keep people out of your country is not christain... anyone been to the Vatican city? Big walls....</p></blockquote>
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<p> :think:<br><br>
Yeah. I'm the troll.</p>
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Perhaps if the Pope could see his way to promoting contraception, then fewer children would be born into poverty and hey who knows perhaps even fewer Mexican migrants would seek their way into the US and then Trump wouldn't have to be such a dickhead about it
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<p>Perhaps if the Pope could see his way to promoting contraception, then fewer children would be born into poverty and hey who knows perhaps even fewer Mexican migrants would seek their way into the US and then Trump wouldn't have to be such a dickhead about it</p>
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Every Republican candidate in the race is running on the fuill defunding of planned parenthood, so they are kinda on the same page there.... </p> -
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<p>Totally unchecked? And you could walk anywhere you liked? Sweet! What were the popes chambers like?</p>
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<p>Oh yeah I totally said I was allowed on private property once in the vatican city unchecked!</p>
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<p>Come on you are smarter than that, it's one thing to be allowed in a country and another to be allowed to just enter any private residence.</p>
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<p>Look "your" attempt at exposing hypocrisy sucked. Admit it and move on. As I said I am not catholic and not a fan of any organised religion but as far as I can see the name of the game here is to amass as many people as possible to follow you. So they are fairly inclusive these days. Now is it realistic to expect them to house the nation's needy and hungry in half a square kilometer? No it's not, being that the vatican is more like the administrative centre of the church then a real country. Do they support the hungry and needy in other ways? Maybe I don't know. Is it any of his business if the USA choose to build the dumbest wall in history? Also no. Is he allowed to make comments on his faith to his followers. He absolutely is, that's the deal you sign up to with religion. You let some other clown tell you what he thinks your sky fairy wants you to do. If you don't like it, he has every right to say you're not a follower.</p> -
There's still plenty of space in the Vatican City for a few thousand refugees.
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<p>There's still plenty of space in the Vatican City for a few thousand refugees.</p>
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<p>They have actually opened up Vatican apartments to refugees. Pope did it last year. Not thousands.. but if you've ever been to the Vatican, there sure as fuck isn't room for 1000's.</p>
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<p>Much as I loathe the Catholic church (and all forms or organised cult), the current Pope is really walking the walk on most issues. He's refreshingly sane.</p>
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<p>Ish.</p>
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<p>For a religious leader.</p> -
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<p>There's still plenty of space in the Vatican City for a few thousand refugees.</p>
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<p>Interesting segue, but the discussion is about illegal immigrants not refugees. I am guessing that its not a popular destination for illegal immigrants for a few reasons.Lack of work? Lack of facilities, they need schools, hospitals.</p>
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<p>Finally would they actually want to live there? When you could just live in Italy? </p> -
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Interesting segue, but the discussion is about illegal immigrants not refugees. I am guessing that its not a popular destination for illegal immigrants for a few reasons.Lack of work? Lack of facilities, they need schools, hospitals.<br><br>
Finally would they actually want to live there? When you could just live in Italy?</p></blockquote>
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They have actually opened up Vatican apartments to refugees. Pope did it last year. Not thousands.. but if you've ever been to the Vatican, there sure as fuck isn't room for 1000's.<br><br>
Much as I loathe the Catholic church (and all forms or organised cult), the current Pope is really walking the walk on most issues. He's refreshingly sane.<br><br>
Ish.<br><br>
For a religious leader.</p></blockquote>
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It would be a squeeze, but I'm sure Francis wouldn't mind.
