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Scotland v Australia 2021

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    Scotland get a 2nd. 12-10 with 20 to go.

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      O'connor kicks a penalty. 12-13 with 15 to go. Really good game.

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        Aussie scrum fold like wet paper again. Scotland with the penalty. Russell kicks it. The lead changes hands again. 15-13 with 12 to go.

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          Good result for Scotland

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            Mistake-strewn game with dreadful refereeing - par for the course for Poitre

            Never forgiven him for his appalling refereeing in the Boks/AB game at Eden Park when he sent Bismark Du Plessis off twice.

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              Finished 15-13. Good Scottish defence.

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                Poite was ok today with letting it flow but he did make a few mistakes, which pretty much so all went Scotland’s way.

                Really enjoyed it tho, Scotland backline is a joy to watch.

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                  Scots defence parts like the Red Sea. Aussie in.

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                  @sparky said in Scotland v Australia 2021:

                  Scots defence parts like the Red Sea. Aussie in.

                  Bill Mclaren used to refer to it as ‘the opposition finding more space than in the gobi desert’

                  I think he’d be pleased with three wins in a row vs Australia.

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                  • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                    Poite was ok today with letting it flow but he did make a few mistakes, which pretty much so all went Scotland’s way.

                    Really enjoyed it tho, Scotland backline is a joy to watch.

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                    @majorrage said in Scotland v Australia 2021:

                    Poite was ok today with letting it flow but he did make a few mistakes, which pretty much so all went Scotland’s way.

                    > Really enjoyed it tho, Scotland backline is a joy to watch.

                    There’s a sentence I never thought I’d see written down in my lifetime

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                      Watching the last 20 minutes and the highlights only, it looked like an entertaining test match. The no try ruling because of the Alaalatoa cleanout seemed harsh to me, would annoy me as a Wallaby supporter.

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                        @tordah However those same highlights in YouTube show just how we are our own worst enemies at times. The paisami cleanout past the ball. JOC missing an easy penalty first up. Our scrum buckling when it looked pretty good all year.

                        Not sure how the first Scots try wasn't called obstruction though.

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                          And it was a shit cleanout by Alaalatoa, too - zero effect. Get there and retain your balance, eyes up, to protect the ball.

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                            And it was a shit cleanout by Alaalatoa, too - zero effect. Get there and retain your balance, eyes up, to protect the ball.

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                            @nta yeah no real pressure on him too with the Scottish player already off his feet and no other defender rushing in.

                            In the annoying voice of Sean Maloney “a famous victory for the Scots” 😉

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                              And it was a shit cleanout by Alaalatoa, too - zero effect. Get there and retain your balance, eyes up, to protect the ball.

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                              @nta said in Scotland v Australia 2021:

                              And it was a shit cleanout by Alaalatoa, too - zero effect. Get there and retain your balance, eyes up, to protect the ball.

                              Tough call only in that many refs have let this 'style' of play go for years. No attempt to be doing anything at the tackle except insert a body in there and go to ground. It's not a clear out. It's no different to tackling a player on the ground. You are actually only meant to bind onto a player on their feet anyway.
                              In my opinion it is a penalty anyway (should be at almost every ruck) but the arm to the head was just extra clumsiness.

                              IMO the reason this is never ruled on is that WR want to encourage players to the tackle area to create space elsewhere but then want quick contests for the ball to keep play moving.

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                                @nta said in Scotland v Australia 2021:

                                And it was a shit cleanout by Alaalatoa, too - zero effect. Get there and retain your balance, eyes up, to protect the ball.

                                Tough call only in that many refs have let this 'style' of play go for years. No attempt to be doing anything at the tackle except insert a body in there and go to ground. It's not a clear out. It's no different to tackling a player on the ground. You are actually only meant to bind onto a player on their feet anyway.
                                In my opinion it is a penalty anyway (should be at almost every ruck) but the arm to the head was just extra clumsiness.

                                IMO the reason this is never ruled on is that WR want to encourage players to the tackle area to create space elsewhere but then want quick contests for the ball to keep play moving.

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                                @crucial having not seen the game - was it a call from an AR or the TMO or something?

                                Because they weren't doing their fucking job on the Scots first try if they were watching that closely.

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                                  Anyway, fuck it. On to England - the expectations for the tour were a bit lower with Kerevi and Quade gone, but we're now firm underdogs at Twickers.

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                                    Anyway, fuck it. On to England - the expectations for the tour were a bit lower with Kerevi and Quade gone, but we're now firm underdogs at Twickers.

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                                    @nta said in Scotland v Australia 2021:

                                    Anyway, fuck it. On to England - the expectations for the tour were a bit lower with Kerevi and Quade gone, but we're now firm underdogs at Twickers.

                                    Oz are good enough to bounce back after yet another loss to their bogey team 😉

                                    Scots on the other hand will DEFINITELY drop one of the next two games, I’m picking against SA. No way can they beat two Southern hemisphere heavyweights in a row.

                                    I’m picking a plucky loss there but victory over the brave blossoms or whatever the Japanese team are called…..

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                                      @crucial having not seen the game - was it a call from an AR or the TMO or something?

                                      Because they weren't doing their fucking job on the Scots first try if they were watching that closely.

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                                      @nta said in Scotland v Australia 2021:

                                      @crucial having not seen the game - was it a call from an AR or the TMO or something?

                                      Because they weren't doing their fucking job on the Scots first try if they were watching that closely.

                                      I only watched some highlights but in the non try it seemed to be a TMO callback for review. For the Scots first try it was reviewed from a number of angles and cleared. I couldn't see a problem. It was a canny move that shifted to point of the maul as the aussies formed it not after.

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                                        @crucial having not seen the game - was it a call from an AR or the TMO or something?

                                        Because they weren't doing their fucking job on the Scots first try if they were watching that closely.

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                                        @nta Yeah based on the brief highlight i saw it looked like that pod was pre-bound and seemed to be clear as day too. But then I'm not across the nuances of the maul.

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                                          @nta Yeah based on the brief highlight i saw it looked like that pod was pre-bound and seemed to be clear as day too. But then I'm not across the nuances of the maul.

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                                          @derpus my issues with it on a couple of viewings:

                                          1. ball was transferred prior to maul forming
                                          2. pod moved forward prior to maul forming
                                          3. Watson was not bound to the ball carrier when he received the ball.

                                          If he'd done a proper hit and rip it might be a little more foggy, but that is objectively illegal on any one of those issues.

                                          Sometimes we forget "bound" means the shoulder, not the hand.

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