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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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  • ChrisC Chris

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @tim said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    The constant fuck up here is the Coaching staff.

    The only team we seem to have a good game plan against is Australia.

    Our defence is passive, our forward positioning, use, and selection is poor, and our attack and structure haven't changed for about 8 years.

    We are poorly coached, and have the same problems as every other year.

    Totall agree , it’s going to bad until after the WC by the looks of things,
    This 4 year cycle between WCs wasted.

    Our loose trio (Ardie excepted) have promise but are young and inexperienced. Tight 5 are not the force they once were. We lack a dominant controlling 10 and our midfield is a puzzle yet to be solved. Lean days for ABs supporters right now

    Who is selecting and coaching them, that’s the problem.

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    @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @tim said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    The constant fuck up here is the Coaching staff.

    The only team we seem to have a good game plan against is Australia.

    Our defence is passive, our forward positioning, use, and selection is poor, and our attack and structure haven't changed for about 8 years.

    We are poorly coached, and have the same problems as every other year.

    Totall agree , it’s going to bad until after the WC by the looks of things,
    This 4 year cycle between WCs wasted.

    Our loose trio (Ardie excepted) have promise but are young and inexperienced. Tight 5 are not the force they once were. We lack a dominant controlling 10 and our midfield is a puzzle yet to be solved. Lean days for ABs supporters right now

    Who is selecting and coaching them, that’s the problem.

    He's part of the problem, and doesn't seem to able to provide solutions

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @chris well at least we have put paid to the peaking in between RWC bs!

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      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @chris well at least we have put paid to the peaking in between RWC bs!

      Or this could be the peak...

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        Had to chuckle that we were criticising the Boks for their bomb tactics but that was literally all we were doing for most of the first half.

        Absolutely clueless shit. No depth, no structure. Been the same for a few years now. Guess what? It doesn't work.

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          The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

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          • canefanC canefan

            The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

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            @canefan won't happen, we got this crew to 2023, so either they get better or we deal with mediocrity.

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            • canefanC canefan

              The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

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              @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

              Sounds a bit like 1991 though…

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                Lowe and JGP are Maori. Not white guys with Irish grannies but Maori, facing the haka and winning. Fucking hilarious. This is the future the NZRU chose with Foster.

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                • canefanC canefan

                  The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

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                  @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                  The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

                  Yeah, it's time to get rid of a couple of assistants. McLeod has shown nothing over the last 4 years and the defence is still far too passive. Same goes for Mooar, no innovation whatsoever on attack, it's just so predictable.

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                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

                    Sounds a bit like 1991 though…

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                    @donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

                    Sounds a bit like 1991 though…

                    Yeah that is the risk. But maybe he can help, certainly can't make it worse. Razor gets a get out of jail free card for it

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                      Last god knows how many years we have struggled to get enough possession.

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                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

                        Yeah, it's time to get rid of a couple of assistants. McLeod has shown nothing over the last 4 years and the defence is still far too passive. Same goes for Mooar, no innovation whatsoever on attack, it's just so predictable.

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                        @akan004 said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

                        Yeah, it's time to get rid of a couple of assistants. McLeod has shown nothing over the last 4 years and the defence is still far too passive. Same goes for Mooar, no innovation whatsoever on attack, it's just so predictable.

                        They certainly aren't a patch on GH-Smith-Hansen. Three guys with test head coaching experience

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                          The NZRFU should realise Fozz needs help. If Razor was willing to do it I would install him as the 2IC. It might help us immediately and it will be Razor's lead in to assuming the top job after the WC

                          Sounds a bit like 1991 though…

                          Yeah that is the risk. But maybe he can help, certainly can't make it worse. Razor gets a get out of jail free card for it

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                          @canefan doubt he'd want to be tarnished if this keep going the way they are, also makes it better for him coming in at a lower point.

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                            So that's three losses in the last five games against Ireland? We really love trying the same shit and hoping for a different result.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @canefan doubt he'd want to be tarnished if this keep going the way they are, also makes it better for him coming in at a lower point.

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                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @canefan doubt he'd want to be tarnished if this keep going the way they are, also makes it better for him coming in at a lower point.

                              Probably. Not that anyone would hold him accountable. We might have to accept that 2019-23 will be a lost period

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                              • TimT Tim

                                So that's three losses in the last five games against Ireland? We really love trying the same shit and hoping for a different result.

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                                @tim said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                So that's three losses in the last five games against Ireland? We really love trying the same shit and hoping for a different result.

                                Our last win was in the RWC QF? We were amazing up front that day, but those sort of games seem to be the exception not the rule

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  Looks like it could be a cracker.

                                  I'd go with

                                  1. Moody
                                  2. Taylor
                                  3. Ofa T
                                  4. Retallick
                                  5. S. Whitelock (c)
                                  6. A. Ioane
                                  7. D. Papail'i
                                  8. A. Savea
                                  9. B. Weber (if fit)
                                  10. B. Barrett
                                  11. R. Ioane
                                  12. D. Havili
                                  13. ALB
                                  14. W. Jordan
                                  15. J. Barrett
                                  16. D. Coles
                                  17. Karl T
                                  18. Laulala
                                  19. Vaa' i
                                  20. Blackadder
                                  21. TJP
                                  22. R. Mo'unga
                                  23. Tupaea
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                                  I hope someone asks Foster if he should resign. A hard hitting question from a journalist. No structure at all. No control in the forwards. Total failure. Notice how our 2nd half try came off front foot ball in the forwards. We have learned nothing but who of us had high hopes for Foster.

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                                  • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                                    Lowe and JGP are Maori. Not white guys with Irish grannies but Maori, facing the haka and winning. Fucking hilarious. This is the future the NZRU chose with Foster.

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                                    @mofitzy_ said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    Lowe and JGP are Maori. Not white guys with Irish grannies but Maori, facing the haka and winning. Fucking hilarious. This is the future the NZRU chose with Foster.

                                    Not sure Foster can take this blame.

                                    Watching them celebrate as hard as they did really tore into me.

                                    It really really hurt.

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                                    • broughieB broughie

                                      I hope someone asks Foster if he should resign. A hard hitting question from a journalist. No structure at all. No control in the forwards. Total failure. Notice how our 2nd half try came off front foot ball in the forwards. We have learned nothing but who of us had high hopes for Foster.

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                                      @broughie said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      I hope someone asks Foster if he should resign. A hard hitting question from a journalist. No structure at all. No control in the forwards. Total failure. Notice how our 2nd half try came off front foot ball in the forwards. We have learned nothing but who of us had high hopes for Foster.

                                      NZ Covid journalism doesn’t raise hope.

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                                        People I feel your pain

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                                        • broughieB broughie

                                          I hope someone asks Foster if he should resign. A hard hitting question from a journalist. No structure at all. No control in the forwards. Total failure. Notice how our 2nd half try came off front foot ball in the forwards. We have learned nothing but who of us had high hopes for Foster.

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                                          @broughie
                                          According to some posters on here, it isn't his fault. Let's just accept mediocrity and go gently into that goodnight.

                                          Players are selected and do what they are told for the most part. Foster has zero success as a head coach. As another poster said, who is chasing him outside NZ? No one, because he is shaite.

                                          Let's go the Aussie route with cricket and League if we are accepting this level of coaching.

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