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    Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

    What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

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      @labcat said in NZ tour of India:

      Does anyone know why Saha is allowed to bat but didn't field all day and from the sounds of it won't be fielding again?

      He came in after 5 wickets were lost so has served his penalty time for being off the field:
      https://www.lords.org/mcc/the-laws-of-cricket/batsman-s-innings;-runners

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      @labcat said in NZ tour of India:

      @labcat said in NZ tour of India:

      Does anyone know why Saha is allowed to bat but didn't field all day and from the sounds of it won't be fielding again?

      He came in after 5 wickets were lost so has served his penalty time for being off the field:
      https://www.lords.org/mcc/the-laws-of-cricket/batsman-s-innings;-runners

      Tell the truth, you were dying for some BCCI conspiracy behind it

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

        What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

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        @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

        Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

        What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

        Better than getting a high 5 for missing a free throw...

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

          What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

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          @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

          Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

          What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

          I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

          Really surprised.

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            @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

            Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

            What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

            Better than getting a high 5 for missing a free throw...

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            @voodoo said in NZ tour of India:

            @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

            Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

            What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

            Better than getting a high 5 for missing a free throw...

            Only for Shaq and DeAndre Jordan because if it’s a close miss they deserve one 😉

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              #329

              Back to back 50 run partnerships by the Indian lower order. Well played by them.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                Really surprised.

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                @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                Really surprised.

                The lesson from this is we play Wags every day of the week and twice on Sundays, I don't give a shit what the pitch is doing, we just don't have a test class spinner. Playing a spinner over Wags minimised our strengths and maximised theirs, we're never going to beat them at their own game.

                (he says with the benefit of hindsight)

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                • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                  284 to win. Kane and Ross, it’s on you.

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                    Sod it. Now they err too far the other way with reviewing. Young and Latham take a couple of seconds too long to decide to review one going down leg...

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                      Sod it. Now they err too far the other way with reviewing. Young and Latham take a couple of seconds too long to decide to review one going down leg...

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                      @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

                      Sod it. Now they err too far the other way with reviewing. Young and Latham take a couple of seconds too long to decide to review one going down leg...

                      Amateur hour. Amateur by the umpire to give that and amateur by our batsmen to take too long.

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                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                        Sod it. Now they err too far the other way with reviewing. Young and Latham take a couple of seconds too long to decide to review one going down leg...

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                        @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

                        Sod it. Now they err too far the other way with reviewing. Young and Latham take a couple of seconds too long to decide to review one going down leg...

                        That was pretty weird, it was a very long discussion and they were acting like there was no time limit!

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

                          Sod it. Now they err too far the other way with reviewing. Young and Latham take a couple of seconds too long to decide to review one going down leg...

                          Amateur hour. Amateur by the umpire to give that and amateur by our batsmen to take too long.

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                          @act-crusader I can see why that was given in real time.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

                            Sod it. Now they err too far the other way with reviewing. Young and Latham take a couple of seconds too long to decide to review one going down leg...

                            Amateur hour. Amateur by the umpire to give that and amateur by our batsmen to take too long.

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                            @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                            @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

                            Sod it. Now they err too far the other way with reviewing. Young and Latham take a couple of seconds too long to decide to review one going down leg...

                            Amateur hour. Amateur by the umpire to give that and amateur by our batsmen to take too long.

                            Replays show it missed by a mile. Shame Latham couldn't see it. Apparently the umpires are not neutral, or from the elite panel due to covid19 restrictions. There have certainly been a lot of inconsistent calls...

                            https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.ndtv.com/india-vs-new-zealand-2021/india-vs-new-zealand-1st-test-shubman-gill-escapes-lbw-dismissal-aakash-chopra-calls-for-neutral-umpires-2624897/amp/1

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                              @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                              Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                              What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                              I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                              Really surprised.

                              The lesson from this is we play Wags every day of the week and twice on Sundays, I don't give a shit what the pitch is doing, we just don't have a test class spinner. Playing a spinner over Wags minimised our strengths and maximised theirs, we're never going to beat them at their own game.

                              (he says with the benefit of hindsight)

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                              @no-quarter said in NZ tour of India:

                              @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                              @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                              Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                              What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                              I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                              Really surprised.

                              The lesson from this is we play Wags every day of the week and twice on Sundays, I don't give a shit what the pitch is doing, we just don't have a test class spinner. Playing a spinner over Wags minimised our strengths and maximised theirs, we're never going to beat them at their own game.

                              (he says with the benefit of hindsight)

                              I said that shit before the test even started !

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                                Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                                What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                                I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                                Really surprised.

                                The lesson from this is we play Wags every day of the week and twice on Sundays, I don't give a shit what the pitch is doing, we just don't have a test class spinner. Playing a spinner over Wags minimised our strengths and maximised theirs, we're never going to beat them at their own game.

                                (he says with the benefit of hindsight)

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                                @no-quarter said in NZ tour of India:

                                @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                                Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                                What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                                I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                                Really surprised.

                                The lesson from this is we play Wags every day of the week and twice on Sundays, I don't give a shit what the pitch is doing, we just don't have a test class spinner. Playing a spinner over Wags minimised our strengths and maximised theirs, we're never going to beat them at their own game.

                                (he says with the benefit of hindsight)

                                Fair call. I liken it to a sub-continental side with great spinners coming here and playing four seamers instead. We'd be laughing. And so are they.

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @no-quarter said in NZ tour of India:

                                  @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                  @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                                  Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                                  What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                                  I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                                  Really surprised.

                                  The lesson from this is we play Wags every day of the week and twice on Sundays, I don't give a shit what the pitch is doing, we just don't have a test class spinner. Playing a spinner over Wags minimised our strengths and maximised theirs, we're never going to beat them at their own game.

                                  (he says with the benefit of hindsight)

                                  I said that shit before the test even started !

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                                  @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                  @no-quarter said in NZ tour of India:

                                  @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                  @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                                  Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                                  What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                                  I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                                  Really surprised.

                                  The lesson from this is we play Wags every day of the week and twice on Sundays, I don't give a shit what the pitch is doing, we just don't have a test class spinner. Playing a spinner over Wags minimised our strengths and maximised theirs, we're never going to beat them at their own game.

                                  (he says with the benefit of hindsight)

                                  I said that shit before the test even started !

                                  They confused themselves by thinking that because our spinners aren't great we will increase the odds of one having a good spell.
                                  I have to admit that the theory often works with quicks when only one will fire and take all the wickets.
                                  Doesn't work when the starting quality is low though.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                    @no-quarter said in NZ tour of India:

                                    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                    @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                                    Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                                    What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                                    I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                                    Really surprised.

                                    The lesson from this is we play Wags every day of the week and twice on Sundays, I don't give a shit what the pitch is doing, we just don't have a test class spinner. Playing a spinner over Wags minimised our strengths and maximised theirs, we're never going to beat them at their own game.

                                    (he says with the benefit of hindsight)

                                    I said that shit before the test even started !

                                    They confused themselves by thinking that because our spinners aren't great we will increase the odds of one having a good spell.
                                    I have to admit that the theory often works with quicks when only one will fire and take all the wickets.
                                    Doesn't work when the starting quality is low though.

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                                    @crucial said in NZ tour of India:

                                    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                    @no-quarter said in NZ tour of India:

                                    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                    @act-crusader said in NZ tour of India:

                                    Blundell: “Oh yes Sommers”

                                    What for? You get an ‘Oh yes’ these days for not doing much with the ball either in the air or off the pitch…

                                    I’m really, really surprised at how ineffective our spinners have been on the whole.

                                    Really surprised.

                                    The lesson from this is we play Wags every day of the week and twice on Sundays, I don't give a shit what the pitch is doing, we just don't have a test class spinner. Playing a spinner over Wags minimised our strengths and maximised theirs, we're never going to beat them at their own game.

                                    (he says with the benefit of hindsight)

                                    I said that shit before the test even started !

                                    They confused themselves by thinking that because our spinners aren't great we will increase the odds of one having a good spell.
                                    I have to admit that the theory often works with quicks when only one will fire and take all the wickets.
                                    Doesn't work when the starting quality is low though.

                                    Especially when the other team is used to their own conditions and facing bowlers who thrive in them, whether that's us and seam in NZ, or India and spin in India.

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                                      Yes, I was wrong on the bowler balance.

                                      Especially as it is mid-winter, not even hot. temp maxing out at 26 degrees. This is being played 2 months later in the year than what would be normal for us. E.g 2 months later than our last visit in 2016.

                                      Man, CDG would have been handy with the ball here. But in hindsight, the 3 seamers available here would have been better.

                                      I assume it will be a Wagner for Sommerville straight swap for next match.

                                      For next test. Mumbai will be about 30 degrees max, by google, so not too bad either.
                                      I wonder if the low and slow is just a Kanpur thing? or a winter thing? Will it bite and turn in Mumbai?

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                                        Yes, I was wrong on the bowler balance.

                                        Especially as it is mid-winter, not even hot. temp maxing out at 26 degrees. This is being played 2 months later in the year than what would be normal for us. E.g 2 months later than our last visit in 2016.

                                        Man, CDG would have been handy with the ball here. But in hindsight, the 3 seamers available here would have been better.

                                        I assume it will be a Wagner for Sommerville straight swap for next match.

                                        For next test. Mumbai will be about 30 degrees max, by google, so not too bad either.
                                        I wonder if the low and slow is just a Kanpur thing? or a winter thing? Will it bite and turn in Mumbai?

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                                        @rapido said in NZ tour of India:

                                        **Yes, I was wrong on the bowler balance.
                                        **
                                        Especially as it is mid-winter, not even hot. temp maxing out at 26 degrees. This is being played 2 months later in the year than what would be normal for us. E.g 2 months later than or last visit in 2016.

                                        Man, CDG would have been handy with the ball here. But in hindsight, the 3 seamers available here would have been better.

                                        I assume it will be a Wagner for Sommerville straight swap for next match.

                                        For next test. Mumbai will be about 30 degrees max, by google, so not too bad either.
                                        I wonder if the low and slow is just a Kanpur thing? or a winter thing? Will it bite and turn in Mumbai?

                                        It takes a big man to admit he’s wrong on the fern. Hats off my friend.

                                        Patel has done enough ( ie actually taken wickets ) so it’s a toss up between the other two for me.

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                                          I hadn't expected our spinners to scythe through India. But I also hadn't expected them to be so innocuous to the point where - if both Wagner and Mitchell had played instead of the two frontliners - we might have taken more/quicker wickets...

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