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    Think these numbers are reasonable, not many above 5. Most judge far too kindly

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2021/11/opinion-all-blacks-v-france-player-ratings-directionless-with-no-gameplan-few-standouts-on-humbling-day-out-in-paris.html

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    Reiko because he was a constant threat and you can absolutely see why they want him at centre

    Coles for a busy and assertive shift and some great set piece work

    George Bridge for the biggest form reversal of the tour. Caught everything he should, actually looked good in attack.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    Caught everything he should, actually looked good in attack.

    Dropped a cross kick cold, and showed nothing when he had a chance on the outside to score.

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    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    Caught everything he should, actually looked good in attack.

    Dropped a cross kick cold, and showed nothing when he had a chance on the outside to score.

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    No person in the AB side would have scored that try as well. Too many defenders no space.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    Nope, it was a good kick and he had it.

    He was cleaned up easily and right into touch. Could have made more ground and recycled.

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    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    Nope, it was a good kick and he had it.

    He was cleaned up easily and right into touch. Could have made more ground and recycled.

    Can't agree but there you go

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    Do we need to set up a dreaded most improved award for Bridge this week? The trophy no one really wanted to get during primary school rugby.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    Caught everything he should, actually looked good in attack.

    Dropped a cross kick cold, and showed nothing when he had a chance on the outside to score.

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    No person in the AB side would have scored that try as well. Too many defenders no space.

    Reiko Ioane woulda had a crack.

    What a player he is. Bridge getting a nomination for doing ok at some basics is a very sad state of affairs for All Black Rugby.

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    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    Nope, it was a good kick and he had it.

    He was cleaned up easily and right into touch. Could have made more ground and recycled.

    Yeah I have no problem with him not scoring, but he just got bundled into touch despite having loads of space to work with costing us a golden opportunity. Was such a poor bit of rugby, barely club level stuff.

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    @no-quarter said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    Nope, it was a good kick and he had it.

    He was cleaned up easily and right into touch. Could have made more ground and recycled.

    Yeah I have no problem with him not scoring, but he just got bundled into touch despite having loads of space to work with costing us a golden opportunity. Was such a poor bit of rugby, barely club level stuff.

    To be far momentum was lost when JB hesitated and threw a bounce pass.
    Not much any winger could do it you have to stop and wait for the bounce then try to beat the cover tacklers from a standing start.

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    @chris said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @no-quarter said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    Nope, it was a good kick and he had it.

    He was cleaned up easily and right into touch. Could have made more ground and recycled.

    Yeah I have no problem with him not scoring, but he just got bundled into touch despite having loads of space to work with costing us a golden opportunity. Was such a poor bit of rugby, barely club level stuff.

    To be far momentum was lost when JB hesitated and threw a bounce pass.
    Not much any winger could do it you have to stop and wait for the bounce then try to beat the cover tacklers from a standing start.

    Are you really claiming there was nothing he could do but be bundled into touch?

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    @no-quarter said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @chris said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @no-quarter said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    Nope, it was a good kick and he had it.

    He was cleaned up easily and right into touch. Could have made more ground and recycled.

    Yeah I have no problem with him not scoring, but he just got bundled into touch despite having loads of space to work with costing us a golden opportunity. Was such a poor bit of rugby, barely club level stuff.

    To be far momentum was lost when JB hesitated and threw a bounce pass.
    Not much any winger could do it you have to stop and wait for the bounce then try to beat the cover tacklers from a standing start.

    Are you really claiming there was nothing he could do but be bundled into touch?

    Yes not much he could do, unless he spouted wings poor pass by JB was the problem.

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    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    Caught everything he should, actually looked good in attack.

    Dropped a cross kick cold, and showed nothing when he had a chance on the outside to score.

    His biggest mistake there was nothing coming in and popping a short pass to Ardie who had come up his outside. Ntamack did just then after breaking out of his own goal line as part of the match-turning break. So simple, I am astounded that any international level outside back could fail to do shit.

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    @chris said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @no-quarter said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @chris said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @no-quarter said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    Nope, it was a good kick and he had it.

    He was cleaned up easily and right into touch. Could have made more ground and recycled.

    Yeah I have no problem with him not scoring, but he just got bundled into touch despite having loads of space to work with costing us a golden opportunity. Was such a poor bit of rugby, barely club level stuff.

    To be far momentum was lost when JB hesitated and threw a bounce pass.
    Not much any winger could do it you have to stop and wait for the bounce then try to beat the cover tacklers from a standing start.

    Are you really claiming there was nothing he could do but be bundled into touch?

    Yes not much he could do, unless he spouted wings poor pass by JB was the problem.

    He couldn't just.. cut back inside? Lol

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @tim said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    That's ridiculously harsh. That was a tough catch off a shit kick.

    Nope, it was a good kick and he had it.

    He was cleaned up easily and right into touch. Could have made more ground and recycled.

    Can't agree but there you go

    I though bridge did well too, dropped that under pressure but caught everything else, bounce off a bloke for the first sign off strength this season and got back to cover lots of balls when Jordie seemed to be miles away, solid I though

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    Samisoni, Smith, Cane for me.

    Difficult to see why Savea and Akira have both picked up more votes than Cane. They're highlights packages player. Shame when we were getting monstered in the loose they were usually standing out on the wing.

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    Samisoni, Smith & Rieko.

    Cane and Coles the next closest.

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    @dogmeat said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    Samisoni, Smith, Cane for me.

    Difficult to see why Savea and Akira have both picked up more votes than Cane. They're highlights packages player. Shame when we were getting monstered in the loose they were usually standing out on the wing.

    Cane and Akira were both stationed on either wing, with Savea in the middle - so clearly a gameplan thing. At halftime, when the coaches changed that, Akira was in the middle carting the ball up with ST. Was very effective, and begs the question why not start in tight and earn the right to put the flankers out wide?

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    @kirwan we aint in the business of earning the right to go wide, we expect to be able to do that from the outset!

    Of those 3, if you gonna have someone trucking it up the middle out of those 3, it aint Ardie!

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks MOTM v France:

    @kirwan we aint in the business of earning the right to go wide, we expect to be able to do that from the outset!

    Of those 3, if you gonna have someone trucking it up the middle out of those 3, it aint Ardie!

    Yeah, I'd have Akira in the middle too. Or working in pairs, whatever.

    Akira is a better passer than Ardie, and used in the backs alot with the Blues (like with Robinson), but it feels like a last 20min strategy than a first minute one. Wastes him on defence too.

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