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2022 School rugby

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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @SouthernMann oh yeah, i do remember reading that article

    wonder what Johnnies have been doing to connect with former top players as coaches and their kids to the school

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    @Kiwiwomble my guess, money. Also academically it is a very good school. So, if you have money you send your kids to the best school available.

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      @SouthernMann oh yeah, i do remember reading that article

      wonder what Johnnies have been doing to connect with former top players as coaches and their kids to the school

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      @Kiwiwomble said in 2022 School rugby:

      @SouthernMann oh yeah, i do remember reading that article

      wonder what Johnnies have been doing to connect with former top players as coaches and their kids to the school

      Possibly a bit of luck as well. I'd say these kids have known each other for a long time both socially and in sports. Stands to reason that they, and their families, would look at the same school.

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        @Kiwiwomble said in 2022 School rugby:

        @SouthernMann oh yeah, i do remember reading that article

        wonder what Johnnies have been doing to connect with former top players as coaches and their kids to the school

        Possibly a bit of luck as well. I'd say these kids have known each other for a long time both socially and in sports. Stands to reason that they, and their families, would look at the same school.

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        @Crucial The parents also need to come up with the tuition fees and or boarding fees. So another 10-16k depending on whether they are day boys or boarding.

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          No scholarships on offer?

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          • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

            @Crucial The parents also need to come up with the tuition fees and or boarding fees. So another 10-16k depending on whether they are day boys or boarding.

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            @SouthernMann said in 2022 School rugby:

            @Crucial The parents also need to come up with the tuition fees and or boarding fees. So another 10-16k depending on whether they are day boys or boarding.

            I think all three families live in the area don't they? Probably did a bulk deal with some payment in kind.
            Lots of schools would jump at the chance of a group of players that come with input and contacts from top coaches. These guys/families just all picked this one.
            I don't see any difference to any established rugby school. I live near Silverstream and there are heaps of kids getting off the train every day that are certainly not of a demographic that can pay fees. The fee paying parents subsidise in order to bask in reflected glory as has always been the case.

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              to be clear....im just jealous theyre not playing from OBHS

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                https://www.nzsportswire.com/2022/09/08/john-mcglashan-college-westlake-boys-top-4-first-timers/

                Same pic but different article

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                  For the first time in many years both semis are 50/50 games and could go either way. I don't think there is a clear favourite amongst the 4 teams.

                  Obviously I am hoping Hamilton BHS do well but getting to the Top 4 with this team is an achievement in itself. The 2020 team, especially, and the 2021 team were much stronger but didn't get that opportunity. Unfortunately Ollie Mathis, the openside and co-captain is out injured, so that is a big loss.

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                    Pretty impressive haka by the JMC team. Good to see something slightly different.
                    The young guy reffing this Top Four semi-final game, Jack Sargentina, has been only on the whistle four or five years or so, following in the footsteps of his old man who is a real good guy and who is known to visit the Wellington Football Club's Isherwood Lounge quite often. I was witness to one of the very first games Jack reffed when he had charge of an Axemen Under 85s game at Hataitai Park and he struck me as likely to go a long way in the game even then.

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                      Whatever happens in the final the title stays in the Super 8.

                      I was expecting more from some of the key JMC players.

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                        Whatever happens in the final the title stays in the Super 8.

                        I was expecting more from some of the key JMC players.

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                        @Bovidae No 50/50 games after all.

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                          Results Top 4 semi-finals:

                          Friday 9 September 2022

                          Boys' 1st XV Championship Semi-finals
                          Westlake Boys High 17 - 40 Napier Boys High
                          Hamilton Boys High 48 - 14 John McGlashan College

                          Girls’ 1st XV Championship – Semi-finals
                          Auckland Girls Grammar 31 - 32 Manukura
                          Manurewa High 5 - 39 Christchurch Girls High

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @Bovidae No 50/50 games after all.

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                            @Stargazer said in 2022 School rugby:

                            @Bovidae No 50/50 games after all.

                            Yeah, I was expecting closer SFs. Westlake created plenty of opportunities but didn't take them. A combination of good NBHS defence but often poor passes and handling.

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                              Firstly, commiserations to Napier BHS. Their defence was superb during the game.

                              The game was fitting of a final, and from a Hamilton BHS POV, they have ground out wins in the close games in recent weeks. I thought this was going to be game of missed opportunities, but Napier scrambled really well. The tacklers on Hodgson in the corner were definitely offside though as there was a ruck.

                              It will be interesting to see how many players from both teams make the NZ Schools teams.

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                                Firstly, commiserations to Napier BHS. Their defence was superb during the game.

                                The game was fitting of a final, and from a Hamilton BHS POV, they have ground out wins in the close games in recent weeks. I thought this was going to be game of missed opportunities, but Napier scrambled really well. The tacklers on Hodgson in the corner were definitely offside though as there was a ruck.

                                It will be interesting to see how many players from both teams make the NZ Schools teams.

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                                @Bovidae If the Hurricanes selectors have any influence on selections, there will be very few players from Napier Boys in the NZ Schools team. Previous years have taught us that the NZ Schools selections are usually made before the Top 4 finals.

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                                  @Bovidae If the Hurricanes selectors have any influence on selections, there will be very few players from Napier Boys in the NZ Schools team. Previous years have taught us that the NZ Schools selections are usually made before the Top 4 finals.

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                                  @Stargazer There are not really many players with the X factor in the NBHS team. It is just a "good team" that is well coached and led and which plays with a fierce determination and defend their line with their lives.

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                                      @Stargazer There are not really many players with the X factor in the NBHS team. It is just a "good team" that is well coached and led and which plays with a fierce determination and defend their line with their lives.

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                                      @Higgins Max Ratcliffe, Gus Brown, Tyrone Chrystal, Cory Berkett, CJ Mienie have all been great this season. Also prop Ta$man Soanai-Oeti, but I think he's too young.

                                      If x-factor is the only consideration, the team is doomed. We don't just need the flashy players, but also workhorses (Ratcliffe being a typical example of that).

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                                        @Higgins Max Ratcliffe, Gus Brown, Tyrone Chrystal, Cory Berkett, CJ Mienie have all been great this season. Also prop Ta$man Soanai-Oeti, but I think he's too young.

                                        If x-factor is the only consideration, the team is doomed. We don't just need the flashy players, but also workhorses (Ratcliffe being a typical example of that).

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                                        @Stargazer Yeah, I liked the NBHS hooker. It will be Bason plus another for the NZ Schools team. Obviously there is a Barbarians team to be named too.

                                        As the commentators mentioned, Cory Berkett was one of the halfbacks in the Barbarians squad last year. As a 1st 5, he is a very good kicker, but I'm not sure about the rest of his game. Ratcliffe is probably the best bet from the forwards. Brown is too short to be a genuine lock and his height means he can be exposed in the scrum as a TH prop. Richie Tupuailei will be one of the TH props. Anyones guess for the other props.

                                        If you want some locks with height then both Nelson and JMC had a couple. I don't know about the Chch teams.

                                        From the Hamilton BHS team, both Spencer and Tuivalala will make the Schools team. Mathis, Hodgson and Putoko will be in the conversation for either team.

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                                          @Stargazer Yeah, I liked the NBHS hooker. It will be Bason plus another for the NZ Schools team. Obviously there is a Barbarians team to be named too.

                                          As the commentators mentioned, Cory Berkett was one of the halfbacks in the Barbarians squad last year. As a 1st 5, he is a very good kicker, but I'm not sure about the rest of his game. Ratcliffe is probably the best bet from the forwards. Brown is too short to be a genuine lock and his height means he can be exposed in the scrum as a TH prop. Richie Tupuailei will be one of the TH props. Anyones guess for the other props.

                                          If you want some locks with height then both Nelson and JMC had a couple. I don't know about the Chch teams.

                                          From the Hamilton BHS team, both Spencer and Tuivalala will make the Schools team. Mathis, Hodgson and Putoko will be in the conversation for either team.

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                                          @Bovidae Josh Leach from Hastings Boys' is a very good lock, but yeah, didn't make the Top 4, so not much chance. Can't remember how tall he is, but he dominated games on his own at times.

                                          How do you know that those players will be in the team? Do you have inside knowledge?

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