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  • StagS Stag

    What other cricketing nation has a top order batsman still in their team who averages well under 40 and has not scored a century for 7 years?!

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    @stag said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    What other cricketing nation has a top order batsman still in their team who averages well under 40 and has not scored a century for 7 years?!

    I give up……which one ?

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      @stag said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

      What other cricketing nation has a top order batsman still in their team who averages well under 40 and has not scored a century for 7 years?!

      I give up……which one ?

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      @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

      @stag said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

      What other cricketing nation has a top order batsman still in their team who averages well under 40 and has not scored a century for 7 years?!

      I give up……which one ?

      It could be many of the West Indies top order but I assume he is referring to Bavuma who is only a "top order player" because of quotas otherwise he would just be Tim Paine batting at 7.

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      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

        That average of Paddles - when he was on fire he was very much the World XI from one end...

        https://twitter.com/FPayne100/status/1494834290894733316

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        @donsteppa his average had to be that good for us to win because who else…. 😃

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          So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

          I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

          It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

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          • MN5M MN5

            So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

            I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

            It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

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            @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

            So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

            I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

            It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

            It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

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            • canefanC canefan

              @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

              So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

              I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

              It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

              It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

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              @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

              @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

              So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

              I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

              It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

              It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

              Yeah it’s one of those ‘has he turned the corner or was that a once in a lifetime moment?’

              I honestly don’t know how five will go into four given I thought Henry would be mediocre and a placeholder at best.

              I reckon Jamieson and Wags are safe as 3rd and 4th seamers.

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              • MN5M MN5

                So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

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                @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

                Boult has always been an ODI specialist that was also effective in the tests - basically the reverse of Southee. He's a lock for the ODI team but less so for the tests, though he has a wealth of experience that can't be overlooked.

                Agree it's a very tough call for the selectors.

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                  I wouldn't select Boult. He has missed recent tests due to his own choices so tough luck.

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                    I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                    It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

                    It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

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                    @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                    I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                    It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

                    It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

                    He doesn't need a plan B if he hits 8m length outside Off 4th or 5th stump at 140 ks you will not score from that.Thats how he got wkts in this test.
                    You can't work that out its been the plan since god knows when.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                      I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                      It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

                      It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

                      He doesn't need a plan B if he hits 8m length outside Off 4th or 5th stump at 140 ks you will not score from that.Thats how he got wkts in this test.
                      You can't work that out its been the plan since god knows when.

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                      @chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                      I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                      It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

                      It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

                      He doesn't need a plan B if he hits 8m length outside Off 4th or 5th stump at 140 ks you will not score from that.Thats how he got wkts in this test.
                      You can't work that out its been the plan since god knows when.

                      The saffa bats barely got a look at him before getting out. It's his home track. Trent hasn't had any cricket. I think they should double down on Henry

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                        @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                        @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                        So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                        I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                        It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

                        It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

                        He doesn't need a plan B if he hits 8m length outside Off 4th or 5th stump at 140 ks you will not score from that.Thats how he got wkts in this test.
                        You can't work that out its been the plan since god knows when.

                        The saffa bats barely got a look at him before getting out. It's his home track. Trent hasn't had any cricket. I think they should double down on Henry

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                        @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                        @chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                        @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                        @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                        So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                        I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                        It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

                        It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

                        He doesn't need a plan B if he hits 8m length outside Off 4th or 5th stump at 140 ks you will not score from that.Thats how he got wkts in this test.
                        You can't work that out its been the plan since god knows when.

                        The saffa bats barely got a look at him before getting out. It's his home track. Trent hasn't had any cricket. I think they should double down on Henry

                        Hard choice really Boult is classy.But Henry would be hard done by to be dropped.I suppose you have to reward performance, it drives a healthy culture within the squad.

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                          Excellent performance by NZ, liked how ruthless they were, never took the foot off the throat at any stage, great pressure bowling & top catching... to be fair South Africa had a real howler, didn't bowl in good areas consistently, their shot selection was poor & so was their catching,
                          they're too good to play that badly again in the 2nd Test.

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                          NZ won by an innings and 276 runs
                          https://scoring.nzc.nz/#m26847b50-c621-4ef7-b082-13e58e463583

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            @chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                            I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                            It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

                            It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

                            He doesn't need a plan B if he hits 8m length outside Off 4th or 5th stump at 140 ks you will not score from that.Thats how he got wkts in this test.
                            You can't work that out its been the plan since god knows when.

                            The saffa bats barely got a look at him before getting out. It's his home track. Trent hasn't had any cricket. I think they should double down on Henry

                            Hard choice really Boult is classy.But Henry would be hard done by to be dropped.I suppose you have to reward performance, it drives a healthy culture within the squad.

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                            @chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            @chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            So apparently Boult is available for the next test. What a fun problem for the selectors to have. Does he slot straight back in and if so for who ?

                            I don’t think he’s quite the key man he used to be and at the same time whilst he’s regressed ( only a bit mind ) Southee has done the bottle of wine thing and gotten better.

                            It’s a pretty tough problem the selectors have to be honest.

                            It will be tough to leave Henry out. Big question for me is if the Saffas will work him out in time for the next game? And if so I'm not convinced he has a plan B

                            He doesn't need a plan B if he hits 8m length outside Off 4th or 5th stump at 140 ks you will not score from that.Thats how he got wkts in this test.
                            You can't work that out its been the plan since god knows when.

                            The saffa bats barely got a look at him before getting out. It's his home track. Trent hasn't had any cricket. I think they should double down on Henry

                            Hard choice really Boult is classy.But Henry would be hard done by to be dropped.I suppose you have to reward performance, it drives a healthy culture within the squad.

                            I am no Henry fan. But he was so effective, how can you leave him out when it's the same opposition, same ground? I'll have no problem if he drops out to make way for Boult. But for a change I'll be okay with Henry getting another match

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                              A few jumbled thoughts on the game

                              Henry set the game up with his 7-for, and Nicholls finished them off with his ton. After that it was really just a matter of what the winning margin would be, and by fuck were we ruthless. That's one of the most clinical performances we've put together which is saying a lot given we are the WTC champions and we were missing 4 world class players that were at the heart of that WTC win. It also makes the first test against the Bangles even harder to get your head around, it was such an aberration, but test cricket can be a fluffybunny of a game sometimes.

                              Henry's performance was really world class. Didn't try to do too much, just got into a good rhythm and hit the right line and length on a consistent basis. He was unplayable. If it wasn't for Southee and Boult he would have played a lot more games, and based on his first class numbers he'd have a good record too. The 58* was fun, showed he can hold a bat but SA were demoralised at that point.

                              I genuinely thought we'd get rolled pretty cheap given the conditions and the SA lineup. I actually would have been content with 200 but boy did Nicholls stand up. Yeah he's a bit of a home track bully but those were not easy circumstances to come out in. He's a funny old player, obviously doesn't have the talent of some of our other blokes but he's mentally so strong, nothing seems to faze him which is why he often makes runs even when he looks all at sea. His innings was all class and he just didn't give SA a chance of coming back into the match.

                              Was nice to see Blundell score some runs again, though I'm not sure he's a long term answer, his glovework isn't great and being a bit of a purist when it comes to keeping I'd like to see someone a lot tidier behind the stumps.

                              CdG did what he does best, and Wags scoring runs was really just pouring salt into a gaping wound. There really isn't any negatives to take away from that, it was such a complete performance. It must have been very tough viewing for SA fans.

                              And on SA, to be blunt, that was a spineless performance. Their bolwers as a unit played like they are used to getting their own way, and when they faced genuine resistance they lost the plot. By the end there they were bowling in the 120s and regularly losing their line and length. Our lower order just dined out on that shit pushing the game well beyond reach.

                              And their fielding was also piss poor, you can't just drop top order players multiple times and expect to be in the game. Club level stuff.

                              Their batting has been a problem for them for a while now with no genuinely world class players in their lineup so it was not entirely surprising that they struggled against our bowlers, but for me their bowling and fielding were the biggest disappointments.

                              So onto the next test and I'd expect SA to be a damn sight better (they can't really be any worse). A draw between these sides seems unlikely, so SA will be praying they win the toss so they can try and put us under some pressure early in the game.

                              One last comment is it's still hard to come to terms with just how good our test side is right now. It really is a golden era and I am savouring every moment of it.

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                A few jumbled thoughts on the game

                                Henry set the game up with his 7-for, and Nicholls finished them off with his ton. After that it was really just a matter of what the winning margin would be, and by fuck were we ruthless. That's one of the most clinical performances we've put together which is saying a lot given we are the WTC champions and we were missing 4 world class players that were at the heart of that WTC win. It also makes the first test against the Bangles even harder to get your head around, it was such an aberration, but test cricket can be a fluffybunny of a game sometimes.

                                Henry's performance was really world class. Didn't try to do too much, just got into a good rhythm and hit the right line and length on a consistent basis. He was unplayable. If it wasn't for Southee and Boult he would have played a lot more games, and based on his first class numbers he'd have a good record too. The 58* was fun, showed he can hold a bat but SA were demoralised at that point.

                                I genuinely thought we'd get rolled pretty cheap given the conditions and the SA lineup. I actually would have been content with 200 but boy did Nicholls stand up. Yeah he's a bit of a home track bully but those were not easy circumstances to come out in. He's a funny old player, obviously doesn't have the talent of some of our other blokes but he's mentally so strong, nothing seems to faze him which is why he often makes runs even when he looks all at sea. His innings was all class and he just didn't give SA a chance of coming back into the match.

                                Was nice to see Blundell score some runs again, though I'm not sure he's a long term answer, his glovework isn't great and being a bit of a purist when it comes to keeping I'd like to see someone a lot tidier behind the stumps.

                                CdG did what he does best, and Wags scoring runs was really just pouring salt into a gaping wound. There really isn't any negatives to take away from that, it was such a complete performance. It must have been very tough viewing for SA fans.

                                And on SA, to be blunt, that was a spineless performance. Their bolwers as a unit played like they are used to getting their own way, and when they faced genuine resistance they lost the plot. By the end there they were bowling in the 120s and regularly losing their line and length. Our lower order just dined out on that shit pushing the game well beyond reach.

                                And their fielding was also piss poor, you can't just drop top order players multiple times and expect to be in the game. Club level stuff.

                                Their batting has been a problem for them for a while now with no genuinely world class players in their lineup so it was not entirely surprising that they struggled against our bowlers, but for me their bowling and fielding were the biggest disappointments.

                                So onto the next test and I'd expect SA to be a damn sight better (they can't really be any worse). A draw between these sides seems unlikely, so SA will be praying they win the toss so they can try and put us under some pressure early in the game.

                                One last comment is it's still hard to come to terms with just how good our test side is right now. It really is a golden era and I am savouring every moment of it.

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                                @no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                A few jumbled thoughts on the game

                                Henry set the game up with his 7-for, and Nicholls finished them off with his ton. After that it was really just a matter of what the winning margin would be, and by fuck were we ruthless. That's one of the most clinical performances we've put together which is saying a lot given we are the WTC champions and we were missing 4 world class players that were at the heart of that WTC win. It also makes the first test against the Bangles even harder to get your head around, it was such an aberration, but test cricket can be a fluffybunny of a game sometimes.

                                Henry's performance was really world class. Didn't try to do too much, just got into a good rhythm and hit the right line and length on a consistent basis. He was unplayable. If it wasn't for Southee and Boult he would have played a lot more games, and based on his first class numbers he'd have a good record too. The 58* was fun, showed he can hold a bat but SA were demoralised at that point.

                                I genuinely thought we'd get rolled pretty cheap given the conditions and the SA lineup. I actually would have been content with 200 but boy did Nicholls stand up. Yeah he's a bit of a home track bully but those were not easy circumstances to come out in. He's a funny old player, obviously doesn't have the talent of some of our other blokes but he's mentally so strong, nothing seems to faze him which is why he often makes runs even when he looks all at sea. His innings was all class and he just didn't give SA a chance of coming back into the match.

                                Was nice to see Blundell score some runs again, though I'm not sure he's long term answer, his glovework isn't great and being a bit of a purist when it comes to keeping I'd like to see someone a lot tidier behind the stumps.

                                CdG did what he does best, and Wags scoring runs was really just pouring salt into a gaping wound. There really isn't any negatives to take away from that, it was such a complete performance. It must have been very tough viewing for SA fans.

                                And on SA, to be blunt, that was a spineless performance. Their bolwers as a unit played like they are used to getting their own way, and when they faced genuine resistance they lost the plot. By the end there they were bowling in the 120s and regularly losing their line and length. Our lower order just dined out on that shit pushing the game well beyond reach.

                                And their fielding was also piss poor, you can't just drop top order players multiple times and expect to be in the game. Club level stuff.

                                Their batting has been a problem for them for a while now with no genuinely world class players in their lineup so it was not entirely surprising that they struggled against our bowlers, but for me their bowling and fielding were the biggest disappointments.

                                So onto the next test and I'd expect SA to be a damn sight better (they can't really be any worse). A draw between these sides seems unlikely, so SA will be praying they win the toss so they can try and put us under some pressure early in the game.

                                One last comment is it's still hard to come to terms with just how good our test side is right now. It really is a golden era and I am savouring every moment of it.

                                Good comments,Loving our success as well.Been through a few years of falling apart and getting touched up.
                                We are building some decent depth, and players are having to stand up to keep getting selected.

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                                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                  A few jumbled thoughts on the game

                                  Henry set the game up with his 7-for, and Nicholls finished them off with his ton. After that it was really just a matter of what the winning margin would be, and by fuck were we ruthless. That's one of the most clinical performances we've put together which is saying a lot given we are the WTC champions and we were missing 4 world class players that were at the heart of that WTC win. It also makes the first test against the Bangles even harder to get your head around, it was such an aberration, but test cricket can be a fluffybunny of a game sometimes.

                                  Henry's performance was really world class. Didn't try to do too much, just got into a good rhythm and hit the right line and length on a consistent basis. He was unplayable. If it wasn't for Southee and Boult he would have played a lot more games, and based on his first class numbers he'd have a good record too. The 58* was fun, showed he can hold a bat but SA were demoralised at that point.

                                  I genuinely thought we'd get rolled pretty cheap given the conditions and the SA lineup. I actually would have been content with 200 but boy did Nicholls stand up. Yeah he's a bit of a home track bully but those were not easy circumstances to come out in. He's a funny old player, obviously doesn't have the talent of some of our other blokes but he's mentally so strong, nothing seems to faze him which is why he often makes runs even when he looks all at sea. His innings was all class and he just didn't give SA a chance of coming back into the match.

                                  Was nice to see Blundell score some runs again, though I'm not sure he's a long term answer, his glovework isn't great and being a bit of a purist when it comes to keeping I'd like to see someone a lot tidier behind the stumps.

                                  CdG did what he does best, and Wags scoring runs was really just pouring salt into a gaping wound. There really isn't any negatives to take away from that, it was such a complete performance. It must have been very tough viewing for SA fans.

                                  And on SA, to be blunt, that was a spineless performance. Their bolwers as a unit played like they are used to getting their own way, and when they faced genuine resistance they lost the plot. By the end there they were bowling in the 120s and regularly losing their line and length. Our lower order just dined out on that shit pushing the game well beyond reach.

                                  And their fielding was also piss poor, you can't just drop top order players multiple times and expect to be in the game. Club level stuff.

                                  Their batting has been a problem for them for a while now with no genuinely world class players in their lineup so it was not entirely surprising that they struggled against our bowlers, but for me their bowling and fielding were the biggest disappointments.

                                  So onto the next test and I'd expect SA to be a damn sight better (they can't really be any worse). A draw between these sides seems unlikely, so SA will be praying they win the toss so they can try and put us under some pressure early in the game.

                                  One last comment is it's still hard to come to terms with just how good our test side is right now. It really is a golden era and I am savouring every moment of it.

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                                  @no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                  still hard to come to terms with just how good our test side is right now. It really is a golden era and I am savouring every moment of it.

                                  Through the years we have usually had only 2 or 3 world class players in a team, so if they didn't perform we'd really struggle, over the last several years we have built up some really good depth to the point we now have a lot of match winners in our team... bloody great how we have so much variation in our pace bowling, even in a place like India we have blokes that can bowl late swing on their slow low wickets, also with Jamieson's height he's going to be awkward face on any type of pitch.

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                                    A few jumbled thoughts on the game

                                    Henry set the game up with his 7-for, and Nicholls finished them off with his ton. After that it was really just a matter of what the winning margin would be, and by fuck were we ruthless. That's one of the most clinical performances we've put together which is saying a lot given we are the WTC champions and we were missing 4 world class players that were at the heart of that WTC win. It also makes the first test against the Bangles even harder to get your head around, it was such an aberration, but test cricket can be a fluffybunny of a game sometimes.

                                    Henry's performance was really world class. Didn't try to do too much, just got into a good rhythm and hit the right line and length on a consistent basis. He was unplayable. If it wasn't for Southee and Boult he would have played a lot more games, and based on his first class numbers he'd have a good record too. The 58* was fun, showed he can hold a bat but SA were demoralised at that point.

                                    I genuinely thought we'd get rolled pretty cheap given the conditions and the SA lineup. I actually would have been content with 200 but boy did Nicholls stand up. Yeah he's a bit of a home track bully but those were not easy circumstances to come out in. He's a funny old player, obviously doesn't have the talent of some of our other blokes but he's mentally so strong, nothing seems to faze him which is why he often makes runs even when he looks all at sea. His innings was all class and he just didn't give SA a chance of coming back into the match.

                                    Was nice to see Blundell score some runs again, though I'm not sure he's a long term answer, his glovework isn't great and being a bit of a purist when it comes to keeping I'd like to see someone a lot tidier behind the stumps.

                                    CdG did what he does best, and Wags scoring runs was really just pouring salt into a gaping wound. There really isn't any negatives to take away from that, it was such a complete performance. It must have been very tough viewing for SA fans.

                                    And on SA, to be blunt, that was a spineless performance. Their bolwers as a unit played like they are used to getting their own way, and when they faced genuine resistance they lost the plot. By the end there they were bowling in the 120s and regularly losing their line and length. Our lower order just dined out on that shit pushing the game well beyond reach.

                                    And their fielding was also piss poor, you can't just drop top order players multiple times and expect to be in the game. Club level stuff.

                                    Their batting has been a problem for them for a while now with no genuinely world class players in their lineup so it was not entirely surprising that they struggled against our bowlers, but for me their bowling and fielding were the biggest disappointments.

                                    So onto the next test and I'd expect SA to be a damn sight better (they can't really be any worse). A draw between these sides seems unlikely, so SA will be praying they win the toss so they can try and put us under some pressure early in the game.

                                    One last comment is it's still hard to come to terms with just how good our test side is right now. It really is a golden era and I am savouring every moment of it.

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                                    @no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                    Was nice to see Blundell score some runs again, though I'm not sure he's a long term answer, his glovework isn't great and being a bit of a purist when it comes to keeping I'd like to see someone a lot tidier behind the stumps.

                                    Thought Blundell played plenty of superb drives along the deck, very stylish shots - reckon he was pretty tidy in the test as our keeper, also he's improving in every test he plays... some keepers tend to be standing up too high behind the stumps, it's easier to crouch a bit lower down first then move upwards to take the ball if needed, than standing a bit taller & having to bend down low to catch it.

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                                      Our cricket team is everything I wish our rugby team still was

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                                        Our cricket team is everything I wish our rugby team still was

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                                        @tewaio said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                        Our cricket team is everything I wish our rugby team still was

                                        I would say the two teams are similar at the moment. It was only a couple of tests ago the Caps lost to the Bangles.

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                                          @tewaio said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                          Our cricket team is everything I wish our rugby team still was

                                          I would say the two teams are similar at the moment. It was only a couple of tests ago the Caps lost to the Bangles.

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                                          @crazy-horse rose tinted glasses

                                          One is world yeast champions, the other is struggling to beat other top teams and is playing a game plan years out of date

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