Black Caps vs Proteas 2022
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@chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Everyone's family situations are different mate, who knows why he's putting that ahead of his cricket right now (which is just his job TBH). A new baby is no joke, sometimes it goes smooth, other times you need to really be there to support your wife through it.
Fair points, no one knows what is exactly going on... but the other blokes in the team have young families too, yet they all went over for the start of that England tour, which was a vital buildup for the WCTC, then a similar thing happens again, just isn't a good look, find a lot of players these days are too bloody soft.
It isn't a good look to you only.
Nothing soft about prioritising your family. That is for sure.
I assume you are a teenager with your weak thought process on this?
If anyone is a teenager it's you, in fact you sound more like a 9 year old - of course it's all about looking after their families, that's an absolute given... just get sick & tired of all the pc bullshit that goes on, it gets worse every year.
Can you please describe the PC part of prioritising his family
Just saying you see too much stuff like players taking a week or two off for example to be with their partners for the birth of their child etc, {happens a lot in rugby too}... years ago when the NZ cricket team use to go on tour to England use to take a month to get to England by ship & another month to return, then they played all the matches as well depending how long the tour was, on some of those tours they played 25 to 30 games.
It’s interesting when I first came into coaching I thought the same thing.
Brought up with don’t ever give your position away as you may not get it back.
But as time went on I realised we live in a different world now,Different values thought patterns and enviroment.
The only thing I say to players who are not playing a game due,for many reasons(not injuries)is for every game you miss it makes it harder for us to select you,not impossible just harder.
My first real rugby coach gave me awesome advice I have always stuck to .
He said “When you go to the next level make sure you are the first player picked next week”.
Different world.It's was pretty astonishing though what Walter Hadlee's team had to go through on a tour to England, travel by ship there & back, play 30 matches on tour & they'd be away for several months.
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Everyone's family situations are different mate, who knows why he's putting that ahead of his cricket right now (which is just his job TBH). A new baby is no joke, sometimes it goes smooth, other times you need to really be there to support your wife through it.
Fair points, no one knows what is exactly going on... but the other blokes in the team have young families too, yet they all went over for the start of that England tour, which was a vital buildup for the WCTC, then a similar thing happens again, just isn't a good look, find a lot of players these days are too bloody soft.
It isn't a good look to you only.
Nothing soft about prioritising your family. That is for sure.
I assume you are a teenager with your weak thought process on this?
If anyone is a teenager it's you, in fact you sound more like a 9 year old - of course it's all about looking after their families, that's an absolute given... just get sick & tired of all the pc bullshit that goes on, it gets worse every year.
Can you please describe the PC part of prioritising his family
Just saying you see too much stuff like players taking a week or two off for example to be with their partners for the birth of their child etc, {happens a lot in rugby too}... years ago when the NZ cricket team use to go on tour to England use to take a month to get to England by ship & another month to return, then they played all the matches as well depending how long the tour was, on some of those tours they played 25 to 30 games.
It’s interesting when I first came into coaching I thought the same thing.
Brought up with don’t ever give your position away as you may not get it back.
But as time went on I realised we live in a different world now,Different values thought patterns and enviroment.
The only thing I say to players who are not playing a game due,for many reasons(not injuries)is for every game you miss it makes it harder for us to select you,not impossible just harder.
My first real rugby coach gave me awesome advice I have always stuck to .
He said “When you go to the next level make sure you are the first player picked next week”.
Different world.It's was pretty astonishing though what Walter Hadlee's team had to go through on a tour to England, travel by ship there & back, play 30 matches on tour & they'd be away for several months.
For sure, amazing endurance,I admire them for having to do that.
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@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Everyone's family situations are different mate, who knows why he's putting that ahead of his cricket right now (which is just his job TBH). A new baby is no joke, sometimes it goes smooth, other times you need to really be there to support your wife through it.
Fair points, no one knows what is exactly going on... but the other blokes in the team have young families too, yet they all went over for the start of that England tour, which was a vital buildup for the WCTC, then a similar thing happens again, just isn't a good look, find a lot of players these days are too bloody soft.
It isn't a good look to you only.
Nothing soft about prioritising your family. That is for sure.
I assume you are a teenager with your weak thought process on this?
If anyone is a teenager it's you, in fact you sound more like a 9 year old - of course it's all about looking after their families, that's an absolute given... just get sick & tired of all the pc bullshit that goes on, it gets worse every year.
Can you please describe the PC part of prioritising his family
Just saying you see too much stuff like players taking a week or two off for example to be with their partners for the birth of their child etc, {happens a lot in rugby too}... years ago when the NZ cricket team use to go on tour to England use to take a month to get to England by ship & another month to return, then they played all the matches as well depending how long the tour was, on some of those tours they played 25 to 30 games.
I totally agree. We should bring back travel by ship. Too much of this PC, namby pamby, premium economy air travel bullshit.
And while we are at it what was wrong with flannel? -
@jk said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
SA won the toss and having a bat???
I wonder if they are using the same pitch? If so I guess SA think it should have flattened out a bit from the first test. I generally lean towards batting first in tests but if the pitch is doing plenty you can lose the test on the first morning.
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@jk said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
SA won the toss and having a bat???
I wonder if they are using the same pitch? If so I guess SA think it should have flattened out a bit from the first test. I generally lean towards batting first in tests but if the pitch is doing plenty you can lose the test on the first morning.
@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@jk said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
SA won the toss and having a bat???
I wonder if they are using the same pitch? If so I guess SA think it should have flattened out a bit from the first test. I generally lean towards batting first in tests but if the pitch is doing plenty you can lose the test on the first morning.
Yeah its a bold call, particularly given there last two batting efforts.
Different pitch btw
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Thats a bloody good start from SA with the ball moving arround and some pretty good bowling, last test starting to look like the Bangladesh abberation
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@jk said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
SA won the toss and having a bat???
I wonder if they are using the same pitch? If so I guess SA think it should have flattened out a bit from the first test. I generally lean towards batting first in tests but if the pitch is doing plenty you can lose the test on the first morning.
@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@jk said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
SA won the toss and having a bat???
I wonder if they are using the same pitch? If so I guess SA think it should have flattened out a bit from the first test. I generally lean towards batting first in tests but if the pitch is doing plenty you can lose the test on the first morning.
... or you can take a massive step forwards.
Some good bowling for no reward from the kiwis. Going to be in the fight now, can't wait. Love test cricket.
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Hopefully NZ Cricket have taken the only sensible option
And created a pitch where both teams score 500 in the first innings and we win the series
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Hopefully NZ Cricket have taken the only sensible option
And created a pitch where both teams score 500 in the first innings and we win the series
@mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Hopefully NZ Cricket have taken the only sensible option
And created a pitch where both teams score 500 in the first innings and we win the series
may as well. Our chances in the WTC are borked anyway- relying on multiple teams shitting the bed to move forward
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thank you lord Nelson
@bayimports said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
thank you lord Nelson
someone didn't get their feet off the floor
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@chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
A spin option may have been useful as time goes by in this test.
who do you drop though? Rachindra at 7? Drop Mitchell?
@nzzp said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
A spin option may have been useful as time goes by in this test.
who do you drop though? Rachindra at 7? Drop Mitchell?
Or CDG probably don’t need his wee meds.
The wkt is flat and slower so will take turn latter.
Too much of the same coming at SA. -
Too many 'Nam flashbacks from Bay Oval of the opposition innocuously building up the scorecard. Markram has somehow scored more than his recent average (something like 9 in his last ten Test innings).
Pitch better play like this outfield in the second innings:
