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Black Caps vs Proteas 2022

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  • DamoD Damo

    Anyone noticing that Sparks "down the wicket" coverage sometimes has the pitch slightly to the side of the screen?

    It's a bit weird. Not sure if I approve.

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    @damo said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    Anyone noticing that Sparks "down the wicket" coverage sometimes has the pitch slightly to the side of the screen?

    It's a bit weird. Not sure if I approve.

    From behind you mean? They have a camera on tracks behind the wicket

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      That's the best test innings I've seen dG play... bit disappointing though that most of the lower order couldn't build long enough partnerships with him so we could get closer to their 1st innings total, anyway, overall that was a bloody good fightback.

      C11..jpg
      Day 3 - South Africa lead by 211 runs.
      South Africa : 140/5 {53}
      https://scoring.nzc.nz/#m9bf85830-1d4d-4b42-b23c-bcaabcf38683

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @donsteppa said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

        Southee these days is a rank #11 somehow still living on distant past glories to bat higher up.

        I came to say exactly that.

        Last three years Tim averages 9, Wagner averages 25 and Henry (very small sample of course) 39.

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        @chris-b said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

        @donsteppa said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

        Southee these days is a rank #11 somehow still living on distant past glories to bat higher up.

        I came to say exactly that.

        Last three years Tim averages 9, Wagner averages 25 and Henry (very small sample of course) 39.

        And Southee's average must be elevated by that excellent 35 or so in the WTC which proved vital.

        That's the frustration, he has a ability to do so much better but just lacks the application and his attitude seems to be grandfathered in from the McCullum "express yourself" era. Even if he just tried to last 20 balls before getting free reign it would make a huge difference.

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          Day 4 shapes up for one of those days that you watch test cricket for. NZ will have to back themselves to have SA all but bowled out in the first session and give their batsman the best part of two sessions to score ~250-270. If SA show some resistance then NZ could be all but out of the game at lunch. Pretty much a carbon copy of the last two India vs SA tests...

          With Kane I would say we would be marginally ahead here. 250-270 is just one solid innings by a top order batsman and not a total collapse down the other end. 300+ though would seem unattainable pretty quickly with this line up if Latham and Conway were to go cheaply.

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            Day 4 shapes up for one of those days that you watch test cricket for. NZ will have to back themselves to have SA all but bowled out in the first session and give their batsman the best part of two sessions to score ~250-270. If SA show some resistance then NZ could be all but out of the game at lunch. Pretty much a carbon copy of the last two India vs SA tests...

            With Kane I would say we would be marginally ahead here. 250-270 is just one solid innings by a top order batsman and not a total collapse down the other end. 300+ though would seem unattainable pretty quickly with this line up if Latham and Conway were to go cheaply.

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            @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

            Day 4 shapes up for one of those days that you watch test cricket for. NZ will have to back themselves to have SA all but bowled out in the first session and give their batsman the best part of two sessions to score ~250-270. If SA show some resistance then NZ could be all but out of the game at lunch. Pretty much a carbon copy of the last two India vs SA tests...

            With Kane I would say we would be marginally ahead here. 250-270 is just one solid innings by a top order batsman and not a total collapse down the other end. 300+ though would seem unattainable pretty quickly with this line up if Latham and Conway were to go cheaply.

            Theres still 2 days left.

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            • RapidoR Rapido

              @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

              Day 4 shapes up for one of those days that you watch test cricket for. NZ will have to back themselves to have SA all but bowled out in the first session and give their batsman the best part of two sessions to score ~250-270. If SA show some resistance then NZ could be all but out of the game at lunch. Pretty much a carbon copy of the last two India vs SA tests...

              With Kane I would say we would be marginally ahead here. 250-270 is just one solid innings by a top order batsman and not a total collapse down the other end. 300+ though would seem unattainable pretty quickly with this line up if Latham and Conway were to go cheaply.

              Theres still 2 days left.

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              @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

              @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

              Day 4 shapes up for one of those days that you watch test cricket for. NZ will have to back themselves to have SA all but bowled out in the first session and give their batsman the best part of two sessions to score ~250-270. If SA show some resistance then NZ could be all but out of the game at lunch. Pretty much a carbon copy of the last two India vs SA tests...

              With Kane I would say we would be marginally ahead here. 250-270 is just one solid innings by a top order batsman and not a total collapse down the other end. 300+ though would seem unattainable pretty quickly with this line up if Latham and Conway were to go cheaply.

              Theres still 2 days left.

              @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

              @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

              Day 4 shapes up for one of those days that you watch test cricket for. NZ will have to back themselves to have SA all but bowled out in the first session and give their batsman the best part of two sessions to score ~250-270. If SA show some resistance then NZ could be all but out of the game at lunch. Pretty much a carbon copy of the last two India vs SA tests...

              With Kane I would say we would be marginally ahead here. 250-270 is just one solid innings by a top order batsman and not a total collapse down the other end. 300+ though would seem unattainable pretty quickly with this line up if Latham and Conway were to go cheaply.

              Theres still 2 days left.

              Sorry meant a day and two sessions.

              Even though this pitch seems fairly docile I don't think it isn't a road either even mid 200s could be knocked off comfortably on the final day with Maharaj coming into play. We've seen most batsmen have gotten stuck in the mud for long periods.

              If we bowl them out shortly after lunch then time won't be an issue we can bat at 2 RPO if needed and not worry about the game getting away.

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              • rotatedR rotated

                @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                Day 4 shapes up for one of those days that you watch test cricket for. NZ will have to back themselves to have SA all but bowled out in the first session and give their batsman the best part of two sessions to score ~250-270. If SA show some resistance then NZ could be all but out of the game at lunch. Pretty much a carbon copy of the last two India vs SA tests...

                With Kane I would say we would be marginally ahead here. 250-270 is just one solid innings by a top order batsman and not a total collapse down the other end. 300+ though would seem unattainable pretty quickly with this line up if Latham and Conway were to go cheaply.

                Theres still 2 days left.

                @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                Day 4 shapes up for one of those days that you watch test cricket for. NZ will have to back themselves to have SA all but bowled out in the first session and give their batsman the best part of two sessions to score ~250-270. If SA show some resistance then NZ could be all but out of the game at lunch. Pretty much a carbon copy of the last two India vs SA tests...

                With Kane I would say we would be marginally ahead here. 250-270 is just one solid innings by a top order batsman and not a total collapse down the other end. 300+ though would seem unattainable pretty quickly with this line up if Latham and Conway were to go cheaply.

                Theres still 2 days left.

                Sorry meant a day and two sessions.

                Even though this pitch seems fairly docile I don't think it isn't a road either even mid 200s could be knocked off comfortably on the final day with Maharaj coming into play. We've seen most batsmen have gotten stuck in the mud for long periods.

                If we bowl them out shortly after lunch then time won't be an issue we can bat at 2 RPO if needed and not worry about the game getting away.

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                @rotated when we finished 80 behind in the first innings it was strong advantage SA. To win, we'd need to both bowl well and then bat well.

                If we let them get over 200, the batting is going from 'bat well' to bat incredibly well with a heroic innings. IF they get 250+, it's getting towards miracle time.

                Fun fact; highest chase at Hagley was 201 for Aus, losing only 3 wickets. I don't think the wicket will come into play too much (fingers crossed the rough isn't massive).

                Yet another pivotal session. Great fun to watch in terms of entertainment.

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                  Yeah, I think we're cooked already.

                  Batting has failed without Kane any time there is any scoreboard pressure.

                  Will be chasing minimum 300, I'd think.

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                    It will be a miracle to salvage the game from here. I feel another batting collapse coming

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      It will be a miracle to salvage the game from here. I feel another batting collapse coming

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                      @canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                      It will be a miracle to salvage the game from here. I feel another batting collapse coming

                      love your work.

                      There's no way we can roll through the last 5 wickets quickly. Wags is a spent force, and Henry is a one trick pony.

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                      • RapidoR Rapido

                        Yeah, I think we're cooked already.

                        Batting has failed without Kane any time there is any scoreboard pressure.

                        Will be chasing minimum 300, I'd think.

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                        @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                        Yeah, I think we're cooked already.

                        Batting has failed without Kane any time there is any scoreboard pressure.

                        Will be chasing minimum 300, I'd think.

                        Quality effort.

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                          Bizzare not to start with Wags with a new ball 25 overs away at the start of the day. Should have just let him off the leash and bowl 12 on the trot if required.

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                            @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            Yeah, I think we're cooked already.

                            Batting has failed without Kane any time there is any scoreboard pressure.

                            Will be chasing minimum 300, I'd think.

                            Quality effort.

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                            @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            Yeah, I think we're cooked already.

                            Batting has failed without Kane any time there is any scoreboard pressure.

                            Will be chasing minimum 300, I'd think.

                            Quality effort.

                            I was being genuine.

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                              when we ended up only 70 behind them i thought the best thing for us would be to keep the run rate right down and force SA make uncomfortable decisions around runs and times

                              it's weird to say, but by keeping the RR close to 3 and taking wickets, we might have put ourselves in a tougher spot.

                              unless of course we run thought them this morning

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                                @chris-b said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                @donsteppa said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                Southee these days is a rank #11 somehow still living on distant past glories to bat higher up.

                                I came to say exactly that.

                                Last three years Tim averages 9, Wagner averages 25 and Henry (very small sample of course) 39.

                                And Southee's average must be elevated by that excellent 35 or so in the WTC which proved vital.

                                That's the frustration, he has a ability to do so much better but just lacks the application and his attitude seems to be grandfathered in from the McCullum "express yourself" era. Even if he just tried to last 20 balls before getting free reign it would make a huge difference.

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                                @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                @chris-b said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                @donsteppa said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                Southee these days is a rank #11 somehow still living on distant past glories to bat higher up.

                                I came to say exactly that.

                                Last three years Tim averages 9, Wagner averages 25 and Henry (very small sample of course) 39.

                                And Southee's average must be elevated by that excellent 35 or so in the WTC which proved vital.

                                That's the frustration, he has a ability to do so much better but just lacks the application and his attitude seems to be grandfathered in from the McCullum "express yourself" era. Even if he just tried to last 20 balls before getting free reign it would make a huge difference.

                                If you choose the least flattering start point for Tim's last X innings, his streak goes...

                                8, 4, 10, 2, 6, 0, 11*, 11, 0, 8, 30, 5, 4, 0, 0, 6, 0, 4, 5

                                With the 30 - as you say - being incredibly valuable!

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                                  well the curses on here are terrible this morning are entirely ineffective

                                  As I type this, a shot the commentators thought was going over the boundary is caught by a incredible one handed diving catch by Will Young

                                  at least one highlight this morning

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                                    if Wags could stop getting carted around that would be great

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                                      Looks like Verreyne came into this test averaging 15, but his first class stats suggest he's a lot better than that (he averages 50).

                                      We needed to keep him quiet for one more innings.

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                                        terrible session. 92/1 may have properly put a line through us

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                                          We've taken some ripper catches... that one by Young & a couple of one-handed reflex catches by Blundell behind the sticks.

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