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Ireland v Wales

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  • M Machpants

    My points

    1. I was on to say Wales were lucky to get nil, but they lucked in to get 7
    2. Wales rucks like amateur era, committing half a dozen (ineffective) players. Worst ruck work I've seen in a long time.
    3. Wales rushing up outside player on defence was so badly done, it just made gaps not pressure.
    4. How the fuck is Gibson-Park on an international team, he's rubbish. Where are Ireland's young nines?
    5. Ireland really didn't take advantage of their dominance until after the stupidity of Wales 13. I know we all want to smash sextoppingtwat, but that was dumb
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    @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

    My points

    1. I was on to say Wales were lucky to get nil, but they lucked in to get 7

    They were poor to the point of amateur, Ireland utterly dominated and yet couldn't score 30 points.

    1. Wales rucks like amateur era, committing half a dozen (ineffective) players. Worst ruck work I've seen in a long time.
    2. Wales rushing up outside player on defence was so badly done, it just made gaps not pressure.

    Particularly when their midget halfback is taking the position of post at rucks and then doesn't come up with the defensive line leaving a massive gap for the inside pass to exploit.

    1. How the fuck is Gibson-Park on an international team, he's rubbish. Where are Ireland's young nines?

    They're scouring the world for them...

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @machpants of people on their feet only. Thr guys on the ground mean nothing, which makes guys look a mile.off when they are not

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      #52

      @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

      @machpants of people on their feet only. Thr guys on the ground mean nothing, which makes guys look a mile.off when they are not

      Is that a law that could be changed?

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        Question please. May have been addressed.

        Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

        My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

        Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

        Thanks

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        • boobooB booboo

          Question please. May have been addressed.

          Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

          My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

          Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

          Thanks

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          #54

          @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

          Question please. May have been addressed.

          Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

          My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

          Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

          Thanks

          TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

          I didn't have a problem with it.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

            Question please. May have been addressed.

            Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

            My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

            Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

            Thanks

            TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

            I didn't have a problem with it.

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            #55

            @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

            @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

            Question please. May have been addressed.

            Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

            My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

            Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

            Thanks

            TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

            I didn't have a problem with it.

            I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

            If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

            Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

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            • boobooB booboo

              @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

              @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

              Question please. May have been addressed.

              Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

              My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

              Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

              Thanks

              TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

              I didn't have a problem with it.

              I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

              If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

              Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

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              Machpants
              wrote on last edited by Machpants
              #56

              @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

              @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

              @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

              Question please. May have been addressed.

              Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

              My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

              Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

              Thanks

              TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

              I didn't have a problem with it.

              I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

              If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

              Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

              Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine

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              • M Machpants

                @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

                @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                Question please. May have been addressed.

                Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

                My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

                Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

                Thanks

                TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

                I didn't have a problem with it.

                I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

                If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

                Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

                Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine

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                @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

                @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

                @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                Question please. May have been addressed.

                Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

                My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

                Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

                Thanks

                TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

                I didn't have a problem with it.

                I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

                If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

                Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

                Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine

                I don't want to make a thing cause I'm not that invested (honest), but I felt his hand did leave the ball as it was rolling on his wrist.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

                  @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                  @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

                  @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                  Question please. May have been addressed.

                  Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

                  My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

                  Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

                  Thanks

                  TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

                  I didn't have a problem with it.

                  I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

                  If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

                  Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

                  Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine

                  I don't want to make a thing cause I'm not that invested (honest), but I felt his hand did leave the ball as it was rolling on his wrist.

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                  Machpants
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                  #58

                  @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                  @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

                  @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                  @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

                  @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                  Question please. May have been addressed.

                  Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

                  My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

                  Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

                  Thanks

                  TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

                  I didn't have a problem with it.

                  I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

                  If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

                  Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

                  Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine

                  I don't want to make a thing cause I'm not that invested (honest), but I felt his hand did leave the ball as it was rolling on his wrist.

                  Ok, well if that happened then it's a knock on. But TMO didn't think it happened, I didn't either but I wasn't really scrutinizing.

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                  • M Machpants

                    @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                    @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

                    @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                    @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

                    @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                    Question please. May have been addressed.

                    Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

                    My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

                    Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

                    Thanks

                    TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

                    I didn't have a problem with it.

                    I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

                    If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

                    Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

                    Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine

                    I don't want to make a thing cause I'm not that invested (honest), but I felt his hand did leave the ball as it was rolling on his wrist.

                    Ok, well if that happened then it's a knock on. But TMO didn't think it happened, I didn't either but I wasn't really scrutinizing.

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                    @machpants I could be wrong, I'd have to have another look. But that what I saw, or more correctly, perceived.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

                      My points

                      1. I was on to say Wales were lucky to get nil, but they lucked in to get 7

                      They were poor to the point of amateur, Ireland utterly dominated and yet couldn't score 30 points.

                      1. Wales rucks like amateur era, committing half a dozen (ineffective) players. Worst ruck work I've seen in a long time.
                      2. Wales rushing up outside player on defence was so badly done, it just made gaps not pressure.

                      Particularly when their midget halfback is taking the position of post at rucks and then doesn't come up with the defensive line leaving a massive gap for the inside pass to exploit.

                      1. How the fuck is Gibson-Park on an international team, he's rubbish. Where are Ireland's young nines?

                      They're scouring the world for them...

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                      @antipodean said in Ireland v Wales:

                      They're scouring the world for them...

                      Ireland's first try: Kiwi - Irish - Irish - Aussie - Kiwi.

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                        Missing personnel or not, Pivac is shit.

                        Some of his players aren't much better tbh.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

                            My points

                            1. I was on to say Wales were lucky to get nil, but they lucked in to get 7

                            They were poor to the point of amateur, Ireland utterly dominated and yet couldn't score 30 points.

                            1. Wales rucks like amateur era, committing half a dozen (ineffective) players. Worst ruck work I've seen in a long time.
                            2. Wales rushing up outside player on defence was so badly done, it just made gaps not pressure.

                            Particularly when their midget halfback is taking the position of post at rucks and then doesn't come up with the defensive line leaving a massive gap for the inside pass to exploit.

                            1. How the fuck is Gibson-Park on an international team, he's rubbish. Where are Ireland's young nines?

                            They're scouring the world for them...

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                            @antipodean said in Ireland v Wales:

                            @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

                            My points

                            1. I was on to say Wales were lucky to get nil, but they lucked in to get 7

                            They were poor to the point of amateur, Ireland utterly dominated and yet couldn't score 30 points.

                            1. Wales rucks like amateur era, committing half a dozen (ineffective) players. Worst ruck work I've seen in a long time.
                            2. Wales rushing up outside player on defence was so badly done, it just made gaps not pressure.

                            Particularly when their midget halfback is taking the position of post at rucks and then doesn't come up with the defensive line leaving a massive gap for the inside pass to exploit.

                            1. How the fuck is Gibson-Park on an international team, he's rubbish. Where are Ireland's young nines?

                            They're scouring the world for them...

                            I can't believe there is a world shortage of snappy, aggro little men with some Irish blood and a chip on the shoulder.

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                              @daffy-jaffy said in Ireland v Wales:

                              "The first half was even. The second half was even worse"

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                                The Irish forwards are really impressive, both with their strong carries which made them systematically win the advantage line and with their clever organization in the rucks (did Wales win a turnover ?). I fear for their AB counterparts in June.

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                                • C cgrant

                                  The Irish forwards are really impressive, both with their strong carries which made them systematically win the advantage line and with their clever organization in the rucks (did Wales win a turnover ?). I fear for their AB counterparts in June.

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                                  @cgrant said in Ireland v Wales:

                                  The Irish forwards are really impressive, both with their strong carries which made them systematically win the advantage line and with their clever organization in the rucks (did Wales win a turnover ?). I fear for their AB counterparts in June.

                                  Don't worry, Ian Foster will be the coach.

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                                  • C cgrant

                                    The Irish forwards are really impressive, both with their strong carries which made them systematically win the advantage line and with their clever organization in the rucks (did Wales win a turnover ?). I fear for their AB counterparts in June.

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                                    @cgrant said in Ireland v Wales:

                                    The Irish forwards are really impressive, both with their strong carries which made them systematically win the advantage line and with their clever organization in the rucks (did Wales win a turnover ?). I fear for their AB counterparts in June.

                                    They were, but against a better ref they’ll be pinged all afternoon for being off their feet and taking men out well off the ball

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

                                      @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                                      @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

                                      @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                                      Question please. May have been addressed.

                                      Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

                                      My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

                                      Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

                                      Thanks

                                      TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

                                      I didn't have a problem with it.

                                      I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

                                      If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

                                      Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

                                      Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine

                                      I don't want to make a thing cause I'm not that invested (honest), but I felt his hand did leave the ball as it was rolling on his wrist.

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                                      @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                                      @machpants said in Ireland v Wales:

                                      @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                                      @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

                                      @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                                      Question please. May have been addressed.

                                      Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

                                      My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

                                      Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

                                      Thanks

                                      TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

                                      I didn't have a problem with it.

                                      I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

                                      If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

                                      Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

                                      Control is nothing, he meant he never knocked it on, his hand never left the ball, so that's fine

                                      I don't want to make a thing cause I'm not that invested (honest), but I felt his hand did leave the ball as it was rolling on his wrist.

                                      Yeah it did but all the ball had to do was touch one bit of white paint beforehand, which I think it quite conclusively did.

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        29-0 with 20 minutes to go. Wales making it too easy for Ireland to score.

                                        This could get very, very ugly.

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                                        @victor-meldrew said in Ireland v Wales:

                                        29-0 with 20 minutes to go. Wales making it too easy for Ireland to score.

                                        This could get very, very ugly.

                                        Commentator’s curse!

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

                                          @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                                          Question please. May have been addressed.

                                          Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

                                          My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

                                          Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

                                          Thanks

                                          TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

                                          I didn't have a problem with it.

                                          I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

                                          If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

                                          Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

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                                          @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                                          @mariner4life said in Ireland v Wales:

                                          @booboo said in Ireland v Wales:

                                          Question please. May have been addressed.

                                          Wat is the ruling when Conway scored when he grounded short then rolled it forward?

                                          My feeling is that he lost possession and propelled it forward so should be a knock on.

                                          Is there a ruling/interpretation/law that defines this that I'm not aware of?

                                          Thanks

                                          TMO said he never lost control and slid over the line.

                                          I didn't have a problem with it.

                                          I'm not sure if I had a problem with it or not. Just had me querying what the ruling is.

                                          If "control" is the measure there's an argument he did lose control.

                                          Happy to take it if my team scored it. Would whinge against.

                                          Losing control is a red herring. If pass not thrown forward, that is touches another player or ground after leaving possession, all that matters is that downward pressure is applied once on or beyond goal line.

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