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  • canefanC canefan

    @mick-gold-coast-qld the try he scored in John Smit's 100th match, when he ran away to score leaving Smit holding his boot, was also satisfying

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    @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

    @mick-gold-coast-qld the try he scored in John Smit's 100th match, when he ran away to score leaving Smit holding his boot, was also satisfying

    Dagg scored the try, Nonu made the line break and sweet cut out pass.

    “HE’S GOT DAGG”

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      When I think freakish ability and those something out of nothing players I immediately think of Rupeni, Cullen, Lauaki, Serevi, Michalak, Lomu, Ella

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      • MN5M MN5

        @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

        Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

        Really, really skilled and very fast too, deceptively powerful to boot…..but he was definitely the least “freaky” of the back three he played in so often.

        His first class cricket stats indicated he could have had a very good international career too, shame we never really found out.

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        @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

        @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

        Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

        Really, really skilled and very fast too, deceptively powerful to boot…..but he was definitely the least “freaky” of the back three he played in so often.

        His first class cricket stats indicated he could have had a very good international career too, shame we never really found out.

        Jeff Wilson had an international ODI record!
        Longest break between ODI games..

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          No-one has mentioned Grant Batty yet....so I will. For a bloke who was considered tiny, even for that era, he had freakish physicality, acceleration & footwork. Check out 14:10 into the video.

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          • canefanC canefan

            Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

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            @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

            Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

            definitely, i mentioned him earlier, I think that back three of cullen, lomu and goldie could take on any other back three, the most "complete" back three i can think of. i think goldie had one of the best kick and chase games ever, like BB and now jordan the ball just popped up for him when he wanted and one of his best (and worst attributes) was the sheer arrogance to try some of the stuff he did

            Lets not forget, goldie and cullen were skinny compared to a lot fo the backs now days and still did what they did old school baggy jerseys for people to grab

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

              Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

              definitely, i mentioned him earlier, I think that back three of cullen, lomu and goldie could take on any other back three, the most "complete" back three i can think of. i think goldie had one of the best kick and chase games ever, like BB and now jordan the ball just popped up for him when he wanted and one of his best (and worst attributes) was the sheer arrogance to try some of the stuff he did

              Lets not forget, goldie and cullen were skinny compared to a lot fo the backs now days and still did what they did old school baggy jerseys for people to grab

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              @kiwiwomble said in Rugby Freaks:

              @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

              Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

              definitely, i mentioned him earlier, I think that back three of cullen, lomu and goldie could take on any other back three, the most "complete" back three i can think of. i think goldie had one of the best kick and chase games ever, like BB and now jordan the ball just popped up for him when he wanted and one of his best (and worst attributes) was the sheer arrogance to try some of the stuff he did

              Lets not forget, goldie and cullen were skinny compared to a lot fo the backs now days and still did what they did old school baggy jerseys for people to grab

              Maybe my memory is a bit false, but I recall Goldie being an un-selfish player as well. He'd often pass to someone in a better position to score when he could have scored himself.

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @kiwiwomble said in Rugby Freaks:

                @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

                Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

                definitely, i mentioned him earlier, I think that back three of cullen, lomu and goldie could take on any other back three, the most "complete" back three i can think of. i think goldie had one of the best kick and chase games ever, like BB and now jordan the ball just popped up for him when he wanted and one of his best (and worst attributes) was the sheer arrogance to try some of the stuff he did

                Lets not forget, goldie and cullen were skinny compared to a lot fo the backs now days and still did what they did old school baggy jerseys for people to grab

                Maybe my memory is a bit false, but I recall Goldie being an un-selfish player as well. He'd often pass to someone in a better position to score when he could have scored himself.

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                @victor-meldrew i think he changed/grew a bit over the years, i remember at least early on him backing his pace or the chip and chase when a lot might have taken a tackle. the fact he often pulled it off probably the thing that saved him.

                As i mentioned in my example, i think the lower the level the more "confident" he was

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

                  Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

                  Really, really skilled and very fast too, deceptively powerful to boot…..but he was definitely the least “freaky” of the back three he played in so often.

                  His first class cricket stats indicated he could have had a very good international career too, shame we never really found out.

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                  @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                  @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:
                  His first class cricket stats indicated he could have had a very good international career too, shame we never really found out.

                  His stats (and play) were not that compelling especially with the bat. It's not obvious that he wouldn't have had a similar career to Andrew Penn, Justin Vaughn or Tama Canning (from a slightly later era) which was basically a cup of coffee during injury crises. Cricket Max may have showcased him and kept him in the ODI frame more than those guys as Chris Harris is on the record as saying he is the cleanest/longest hitter of a cricket ball he saw in his career.

                  Rugby for sure was the better choice. Still incredible to play both to that level.

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                    I was at Seddon Park when Wilson hit an unbeaten 44 off 28 balls to win that ODI against Aust. A small sample size, but his batting was better than his bowling.

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                      Apologies if this has been mentioned but 2015 Milner-Skudder was an absolute freak.

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                      • BonesB Online
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                        Aaron Mauger

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          Aaron Mauger

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                          @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                          Aaron Mauger

                          Why ?

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                            Aaron Mauger

                            Why ?

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                            @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                            @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                            Aaron Mauger

                            Why ?

                            Astonishing skills

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                              @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                              Aaron Mauger

                              Why ?

                              Astonishing skills

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                              @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                              @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                              @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                              Aaron Mauger

                              Why ?

                              Astonishing skills

                              Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                I was at Seddon Park when Wilson hit an unbeaten 44 off 28 balls to win that ODI against Aust. A small sample size, but his batting was better than his bowling.

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                                @bovidae said in Rugby Freaks:

                                I was at Seddon Park when Wilson hit an unbeaten 44 off 28 balls to win that ODI against Aust. A small sample size, but his batting was better than his bowling.

                                First class stats indicate otherwise.

                                If I went by that logic I’d say the same about Tim Southee based on his 77 not out against England.

                                Wilson looked to be a really good pace bowler who could bat a fair bit at the top level but we’ll never know for sure.

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                  @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                  @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                  Aaron Mauger

                                  Why ?

                                  Astonishing skills

                                  Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

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                                  @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                  @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                  @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                  @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                  Aaron Mauger

                                  Why ?

                                  Astonishing skills

                                  Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

                                  I was reminded by the previous poster...

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    Aaron Mauger

                                    Why ?

                                    Astonishing skills

                                    Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

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                                    @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    Aaron Mauger

                                    Why ?

                                    Astonishing skills

                                    Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

                                    Even Lucky Luke had freakier skills.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                      Aaron Mauger

                                      Why ?

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                                      @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                      @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                      Aaron Mauger

                                      Why ?

                                      Because he's a very strange individual.

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                                      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                        @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                        @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                        Aaron Mauger

                                        Why ?

                                        Because he's a very strange individual.

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                                        @rancid-schnitzel said in Rugby Freaks:

                                        @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                        @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                        Aaron Mauger

                                        Why ?

                                        Because he's a very strange individual.

                                        I don’t reckon he even watches rugby

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          Aaron Mauger

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                                          @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                          Aaron Mauger

                                          One of the last people I expected to see mentioned.

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