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  • canefanC canefan

    Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

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    @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

    Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

    definitely, i mentioned him earlier, I think that back three of cullen, lomu and goldie could take on any other back three, the most "complete" back three i can think of. i think goldie had one of the best kick and chase games ever, like BB and now jordan the ball just popped up for him when he wanted and one of his best (and worst attributes) was the sheer arrogance to try some of the stuff he did

    Lets not forget, goldie and cullen were skinny compared to a lot fo the backs now days and still did what they did old school baggy jerseys for people to grab

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      @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

      Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

      definitely, i mentioned him earlier, I think that back three of cullen, lomu and goldie could take on any other back three, the most "complete" back three i can think of. i think goldie had one of the best kick and chase games ever, like BB and now jordan the ball just popped up for him when he wanted and one of his best (and worst attributes) was the sheer arrogance to try some of the stuff he did

      Lets not forget, goldie and cullen were skinny compared to a lot fo the backs now days and still did what they did old school baggy jerseys for people to grab

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      @kiwiwomble said in Rugby Freaks:

      @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

      Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

      definitely, i mentioned him earlier, I think that back three of cullen, lomu and goldie could take on any other back three, the most "complete" back three i can think of. i think goldie had one of the best kick and chase games ever, like BB and now jordan the ball just popped up for him when he wanted and one of his best (and worst attributes) was the sheer arrogance to try some of the stuff he did

      Lets not forget, goldie and cullen were skinny compared to a lot fo the backs now days and still did what they did old school baggy jerseys for people to grab

      Maybe my memory is a bit false, but I recall Goldie being an un-selfish player as well. He'd often pass to someone in a better position to score when he could have scored himself.

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @kiwiwomble said in Rugby Freaks:

        @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

        Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

        definitely, i mentioned him earlier, I think that back three of cullen, lomu and goldie could take on any other back three, the most "complete" back three i can think of. i think goldie had one of the best kick and chase games ever, like BB and now jordan the ball just popped up for him when he wanted and one of his best (and worst attributes) was the sheer arrogance to try some of the stuff he did

        Lets not forget, goldie and cullen were skinny compared to a lot fo the backs now days and still did what they did old school baggy jerseys for people to grab

        Maybe my memory is a bit false, but I recall Goldie being an un-selfish player as well. He'd often pass to someone in a better position to score when he could have scored himself.

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        @victor-meldrew i think he changed/grew a bit over the years, i remember at least early on him backing his pace or the chip and chase when a lot might have taken a tackle. the fact he often pulled it off probably the thing that saved him.

        As i mentioned in my example, i think the lower the level the more "confident" he was

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        • MN5M MN5

          @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

          Any freakish love for Goldie? I remember him making things look so easy, he was such a natural talent, and maybe the first to break the stoic AB mould and display emotion when he scored. Bonus points for playing ODI cricket with distinction for NZ too

          Really, really skilled and very fast too, deceptively powerful to boot…..but he was definitely the least “freaky” of the back three he played in so often.

          His first class cricket stats indicated he could have had a very good international career too, shame we never really found out.

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          @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

          @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:
          His first class cricket stats indicated he could have had a very good international career too, shame we never really found out.

          His stats (and play) were not that compelling especially with the bat. It's not obvious that he wouldn't have had a similar career to Andrew Penn, Justin Vaughn or Tama Canning (from a slightly later era) which was basically a cup of coffee during injury crises. Cricket Max may have showcased him and kept him in the ODI frame more than those guys as Chris Harris is on the record as saying he is the cleanest/longest hitter of a cricket ball he saw in his career.

          Rugby for sure was the better choice. Still incredible to play both to that level.

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            I was at Seddon Park when Wilson hit an unbeaten 44 off 28 balls to win that ODI against Aust. A small sample size, but his batting was better than his bowling.

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              Apologies if this has been mentioned but 2015 Milner-Skudder was an absolute freak.

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                Aaron Mauger

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                • BonesB Bones

                  Aaron Mauger

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                  @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                  Aaron Mauger

                  Why ?

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                    Aaron Mauger

                    Why ?

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                    @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                    @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                    Aaron Mauger

                    Why ?

                    Astonishing skills

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                      @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                      Aaron Mauger

                      Why ?

                      Astonishing skills

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                      @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                      @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                      @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                      Aaron Mauger

                      Why ?

                      Astonishing skills

                      Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        I was at Seddon Park when Wilson hit an unbeaten 44 off 28 balls to win that ODI against Aust. A small sample size, but his batting was better than his bowling.

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                        @bovidae said in Rugby Freaks:

                        I was at Seddon Park when Wilson hit an unbeaten 44 off 28 balls to win that ODI against Aust. A small sample size, but his batting was better than his bowling.

                        First class stats indicate otherwise.

                        If I went by that logic I’d say the same about Tim Southee based on his 77 not out against England.

                        Wilson looked to be a really good pace bowler who could bat a fair bit at the top level but we’ll never know for sure.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                          @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                          @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                          Aaron Mauger

                          Why ?

                          Astonishing skills

                          Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

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                          @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                          @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                          @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                          @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                          Aaron Mauger

                          Why ?

                          Astonishing skills

                          Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

                          I was reminded by the previous poster...

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                            @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                            @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                            Aaron Mauger

                            Why ?

                            Astonishing skills

                            Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

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                            @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                            @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                            @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                            @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                            Aaron Mauger

                            Why ?

                            Astonishing skills

                            Really ? For once in a conversation with us two I’m being serious….I mean Spencer who played inside him had much freakier skills overall.

                            Even Lucky Luke had freakier skills.

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                              Aaron Mauger

                              Why ?

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                              @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                              @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                              Aaron Mauger

                              Why ?

                              Because he's a very strange individual.

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                              • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                Aaron Mauger

                                Why ?

                                Because he's a very strange individual.

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                                @rancid-schnitzel said in Rugby Freaks:

                                @mn5 said in Rugby Freaks:

                                @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                Aaron Mauger

                                Why ?

                                Because he's a very strange individual.

                                I don’t reckon he even watches rugby

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Aaron Mauger

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                                  @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                  Aaron Mauger

                                  One of the last people I expected to see mentioned.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    Aaron Mauger

                                    One of the last people I expected to see mentioned.

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                                    @crucial said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    @bones said in Rugby Freaks:

                                    Aaron Mauger

                                    One of the last people I expected to see mentioned.

                                    lol, I thought it was a joke because of one season Milner-Skudder gets mentioned, Im sorry even mentioning either in the context of some of these other greatest of the game freaks seems funny

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @bovidae said in Rugby Freaks:

                                      I was at Seddon Park when Wilson hit an unbeaten 44 off 28 balls to win that ODI against Aust. A small sample size, but his batting was better than his bowling.

                                      First class stats indicate otherwise.

                                      If I went by that logic I’d say the same about Tim Southee based on his 77 not out against England.

                                      Wilson looked to be a really good pace bowler who could bat a fair bit at the top level but we’ll never know for sure.

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                                      @mn5 I was only commenting about his ODI stats.

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                                        Shane Williams. A guy that had a storied career (top Welsh try scorer in 6N and RWC, Lion, 6N winner) to be 5 foot 7 in an era of big physical players is a testament to his toughness

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          Shane Williams. A guy that had a storied career (top Welsh try scorer in 6N and RWC, Lion, 6N winner) to be 5 foot 7 in an era of big physical players is a testament to his toughness

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                                          @canefan said in Rugby Freaks:

                                          Shane Williams. A guy that had a storied career (top Welsh try scorer in 6N and RWC, Lion, 6N winner) to be 5 foot 7 in an era of big physical players is a testament to his toughness

                                          His running metres were in the negatives when he marked Rico Gear though

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