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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @crucial

    Good call on Jones. I also take your points re Cullen but would say they weren’t freakish. Other guys had those attributes, just not all of them.

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    @catogrande said in Rugby Freaks:

    @crucial

    Good call on Jones. I also take your points re Cullen but would say they weren’t freakish. Other guys had those attributes, just not all of them.

    🙂 which in my eyes made him a freak...

    Not looking for best players ever. Many of these guys had big failings in other areas but I guess it's down to players that made you go 'WTAF!!' on a regular basis

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        I'd suggest Gregor Townsend deserves a mention. Some of the stuff he did was pretty outrageous

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          I was always amazed at some of the things Sivivatu did, all the while looking like he was in 2nd gear. 5 tries against Auckland was good to watch. 🙂

          Zinny for his drop-kicking ability.

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            Not sure I'd put Lomu in freakish skill/ability, he was just a phenom, large and fast with good skills, but not freakish IMO.

            For me, Cully is possibly the closest to Rupeni in terms of freakish ability, Goldie near the top too, and the fact we had Goldie, Lomu & Cully at the same time!!

            I'd put Blanco & Campo up there too for outsides.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              Not sure I'd put Lomu in freakish skill/ability, he was just a phenom, large and fast with good skills, but not freakish IMO.

              For me, Cully is possibly the closest to Rupeni in terms of freakish ability, Goldie near the top too, and the fact we had Goldie, Lomu & Cully at the same time!!

              I'd put Blanco & Campo up there too for outsides.

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              @taniwharugby said in Rugby Freaks:

              Not sure I'd put Lomu in freakish skill/ability, he was just a phenom, large and fast with good skills, but not freakish IMO.

              For me, Cully is possibly the closest to Rupeni in terms of freakish ability, Goldie near the top too, and the fact we had Goldie, Lomu & Cully at the same time!!

              I'd put Blanco & Campo up there too for outsides.

              Lomu had a two metre sidestep FFS! 🙂 His best attribute by far was balance though. Addthat to his other abilities and he was a freak.

              Goldie, Lomu and Cully? sounds like a good back three 😉

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                I'd put Joeli Vidiri in the freak category.

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                • DiceD Dice

                  I'd put Joeli Vidiri in the freak category.

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                  @dice said in Rugby Freaks:

                  I'd put Joeli Vidiri in the freak category.

                  Most Waikato supporters would agree.

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                    Lots of Fijians being mentioned, I'm going to add Serevi.

                    Sevens is (at least used to be) a great arena for freakish abilities to shine with Jonah and Cully being good examples.

                    Serevi was one of those players that had you on edge whenever he had the ball. They'd be seemingly no options in front of him but he'd dance around on the spot for a bit, then having worked out a path, take off through the defence and dot down.

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      Rupeni and Lomu are the stand outs. Cullen great player, amazingly quick, ran great lines but not in the same league of freakishness for me. I’d say Blanco an honourable third.

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                      @catogrande said in Rugby Freaks:

                      Rupeni and Lomu are the stand outs. Cullen great player, amazingly quick, ran great lines but not in the same league of freakishness for me. I’d say Blanco an honourable third.

                      WTF, Cullen was easily as freakish as those two. Ran great lines is barely scratching the surface, he could change direction and not lose pace as good as anyone (including Rupeni).

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                        People also forget that Cullen wasn't a big guy but was strong and could bust through tackles. For context, he was smaller than TJP.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          People also forget that Cullen wasn't a big guy but was strong and could bust through tackles. For context, he was smaller than TJP.

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                          @bovidae said in Rugby Freaks:

                          People also forget that Cullen wasn't a big guy but was strong and could bust through tackles. For context, he was smaller than TJP.

                          Really? Mind you TJP might have been measured with that funny ruler used for for Ardie.

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                            @bovidae said in Rugby Freaks:

                            People also forget that Cullen wasn't a big guy but was strong and could bust through tackles. For context, he was smaller than TJP.

                            Really? Mind you TJP might have been measured with that funny ruler used for for Ardie.

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                            @crucial Cullen is listed as 1.80 m and 85 kg.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @crucial Cullen is listed as 1.80 m and 85 kg.

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                              @bovidae said in Rugby Freaks:

                              @crucial Cullen is listed as 1.80 m and 85 kg.

                              Yeah, I'm just looking at pictures in my head. Just shows how much the average player size has changed as Cully was never considered small.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                People also forget that Cullen wasn't a big guy but was strong and could bust through tackles. For context, he was smaller than TJP.

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                                @bovidae wasnt he reputed to be able to bench >140kg or something ridiculous for a guy his size, especially in an era when rugby players were only just embracing professionalism.

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                                  Cullen was a real freak player IMO,To be able to Step at full pace thats not easy to do most players lose pace when stepping, so I reckon thats freakish.Plus his instinct to find gaps was amazing.

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                                    Cullen Campo J van der Westhuizen Serevi Hugo Porta would be my top 5.

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                                      Also, of all the freaks mentioned so far I'd say he'd easily be the best defender.

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                                        We're concentrating on backs, and of the forwards MJ has been correctly mentioned, but Zinny would have to be another forward, had all the skills of a back in a forward's frame.

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                                        • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                          @crucial

                                          Good call on Jones. I also take your points re Cullen but would say they weren’t freakish. Other guys had those attributes, just not all of them.

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                                          @catogrande said in Rugby Freaks:

                                          @crucial

                                          Good call on Jones. I also take your points re Cullen but would say they weren’t freakish. Other guys had those attributes, just not all of them.

                                          Richie, yes agree, what made him different was the motor and between the ears.

                                          Cullen had physical gifts unmatched by anyone i have seen. Not the "huge islander who can move" gifts, but incredible acceleration, top end pace, the ability to change direction at pace, and he was freakishly strong for his size. There's never been another like him to have those attributes all to that level.

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