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Force v Blues

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  • African MonkeyA African Monkey

    @Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.

    Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.

    Also needs to improve his ball carrying.

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    @African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:

    @Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.

    Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.

    Yep I like the kid at 7 too AM, by geez I keep saying how much I like the kid, he never stops, tackles and back on feet looking to see next job etc , a lot to like, and I reckon very handy 7, although he not bad at 8.

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    • gt12G gt12

      That was bullshit. They drop it, Angus dreams up a penalty.

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      @gt12 said in Force v Blues:

      That was bullshit. They drop it, Angus dreams up a penalty.

      To be fair to Gardner the touchies are often calling the offsides and I'm pretty sure he got the call for that one. He also made a good call with Eklund which the TMO was wanting a penalty.

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        #252

        The Blues in that second half were painful to watch. Talk about giving away possession and fuck me that has to be one of the worst performances of a reserved hooker ever. Literally couldn't throw it in and gets pinged for a high shot.
        They were lucky not to lose with all the fuck ups they made.
        In saying that the scrum was dominant and I would be happy for Hodge and Ofa to start for ABs.
        The engine in that pack was Luke Romano who has to be the transfer of the year, his workrate was unreal. Akira played well but looked like a few meat pies heavier than last year.
        I thought Segner played well, he kept the ball at the base well, tackled well.
        Overall just too many errors, penalties and turnovers.

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          @African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:

          @Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.

          Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.

          Yep I like the kid at 7 too AM, by geez I keep saying how much I like the kid, he never stops, tackles and back on feet looking to see next job etc , a lot to like, and I reckon very handy 7, although he not bad at 8.

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          @Dan54 Yeah I'd say that he can cover 8 at a pinch, but definitely not long term imo.

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          • African MonkeyA African Monkey

            @Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.

            Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.

            Also needs to improve his ball carrying.

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            @African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:

            @Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.

            Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.

            Also needs to improve his ball carrying.

            Wiki says he 1.92? I think that is taller than current test 6 Ethan Blackadder and taller than 40+ test player Messam. So not sure if he really is too short.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:

              @Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.

              Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.

              Also needs to improve his ball carrying.

              Wiki says he 1.92? I think that is taller than current test 6 Ethan Blackadder and taller than 40+ test player Messam. So not sure if he really is too short.

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              @Nepia The same height as Sotutu, Grace, Mikaele-Tu'u. I think it is bulk rather than height he will need to continue as a 6/8 option. New young players often arrive considerably muscled up for their second season at this level so it will be interesting to see his physique change for next season.

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              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                @Nepia The same height as Sotutu, Grace, Mikaele-Tu'u. I think it is bulk rather than height he will need to continue as a 6/8 option. New young players often arrive considerably muscled up for their second season at this level so it will be interesting to see his physique change for next season.

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                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Force v Blues:

                @Nepia The same height as Sotutu, Grace, Mikaele-Tu'u. I think it is bulk rather than height he will need to continue as a 6/8 option. New young players often arrive considerably muscled up for their second season at this level so it will be interesting to see his physique change for next season.

                I was only responding to @African-Monkey's discussion about height. Yeah, he's only 20, he's got time to bulk up.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:

                  @Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.

                  Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.

                  Also needs to improve his ball carrying.

                  Wiki says he 1.92? I think that is taller than current test 6 Ethan Blackadder and taller than 40+ test player Messam. So not sure if he really is too short.

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                  @Nepia Interesting, looks a lot shorter than that to me but could be wrong.

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                  • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                    @Nepia Interesting, looks a lot shorter than that to me but could be wrong.

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                    @African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:

                    @Nepia Interesting, looks a lot shorter than that to me but could be wrong.

                    He didn't look short next to Papali'i who is a cm taller (according to Wiki caveat of course).

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:

                      @Nepia Interesting, looks a lot shorter than that to me but could be wrong.

                      He didn't look short next to Papali'i who is a cm taller (according to Wiki caveat of course).

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                      @Nepia said in Force v Blues:

                      @African-Monkey said in Force v Blues:

                      @Nepia Interesting, looks a lot shorter than that to me but could be wrong.

                      He didn't look short next to Papali'i who is a cm taller (according to Wiki caveat of course).

                      I actually thought that last night Nepia, I remember being surprised as I thought he was shorter by a fair bit.

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                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                        @Chris-B Really? If I'm wrong then so be it, ill put my hand up, but I don't see how he could be anything other than a 7 from what I've seen.

                        Good player but too short to ever be a long term 6 or 8.

                        Also needs to improve his ball carrying.

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                        @African-Monkey He's only 20 so far from the finished article.

                        According to his stats a centimetre shorter than Read, which looks about right.

                        He doesn't look fast enough to be a 7 to me, so pack a bit of weight on him and play him as a 6/8.

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                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                          @gt12 said in Force v Blues:

                          That was bullshit. They drop it, Angus dreams up a penalty.

                          To be fair to Gardner the touchies are often calling the offsides and I'm pretty sure he got the call for that one. He also made a good call with Eklund which the TMO was wanting a penalty.

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                          @chimoaus said in Force v Blues:

                          @gt12 said in Force v Blues:

                          That was bullshit. They drop it, Angus dreams up a penalty.

                          To be fair to Gardner the touchies are often calling the offsides and I'm pretty sure he got the call for that one. He also made a good call with Eklund which the TMO was wanting a penalty.

                          The crowd called a few for him too

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @Crucial

                            Probably a typo and was meant to be 66 mins

                            He did exactly what was expected. MacDonald said before the match that he expected a good hour out of him before he 'falls off a cliff'. Aussie coverage gave him man of the match

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                            @Duluth said in Force v Blues:

                            @Crucial

                            Probably a typo and was meant to be 66 mins

                            He did exactly what was expected. MacDonald said before the match that he expected a good hour out of him before he 'falls off a cliff'. Aussie coverage gave him man of the match

                            Yes it was almost70mins

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                              Some tackling stats from the game. Blues made 237 tackles, the Force 111.
                              Blues top tacklers -
                              Papalii 29, Segner 24, RTS, Darry and Renata 14 (in his 23 minutes played), Tucker made 9 in his 10 mins played.

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy This something wrong with a game plan if that’s a tackle count. We have to start keeping possession and not giving it away.

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                              • broughieB broughie

                                @Daffy-Jaffy This something wrong with a game plan if that’s a tackle count. We have to start keeping possession and not giving it away.

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                                @broughie said in Force v Blues:

                                @Daffy-Jaffy This something wrong with a game plan if that’s a tackle count. We have to start keeping possession and not giving it away.

                                Not the gameplan, poor refereeing.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @broughie said in Force v Blues:

                                  @Daffy-Jaffy This something wrong with a game plan if that’s a tackle count. We have to start keeping possession and not giving it away.

                                  Not the gameplan, poor refereeing.

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                                  @Kirwan OK. I didn’t see the game because flosports for some reason is missing some of the games. Still we saw this with the ABs and worthless kicking the ball away which surely can not all be attributed to the ref.

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                                  • broughieB broughie

                                    @Kirwan OK. I didn’t see the game because flosports for some reason is missing some of the games. Still we saw this with the ABs and worthless kicking the ball away which surely can not all be attributed to the ref.

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                                    @broughie said in Force v Blues:

                                    @Kirwan OK. I didn’t see the game because flosports for some reason is missing some of the games. Still we saw this with the ABs and worthless kicking the ball away which surely can not all be attributed to the ref.

                                    We weren’t doing that.

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      @broughie said in Force v Blues:

                                      @Kirwan OK. I didn’t see the game because flosports for some reason is missing some of the games. Still we saw this with the ABs and worthless kicking the ball away which surely can not all be attributed to the ref.

                                      We weren’t doing that.

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                                      @Kirwan take your word for it.

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                                      • broughieB broughie

                                        @Kirwan take your word for it.

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                                        Kirwan
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                                        @broughie said in Force v Blues:

                                        @Kirwan take your word for it.

                                        Very trustworthy me.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          @broughie said in Force v Blues:

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy This something wrong with a game plan if that’s a tackle count. We have to start keeping possession and not giving it away.

                                          Not the gameplan, poor refereeing.

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                                          @Kirwan Berry has been very good IMO.

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