QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes
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@antipodean said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Christ, that's bloody cold... I remember the Crusaders playing in a final against the Brumbies in the snow in Canberra.
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@antipodean said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Christ, that's bloody cold... I remember the Crusaders playing in a final against the Brumbies in the snow in Canberra.
Day two of winter. This place is a miserable shithole, i.e. worse than normal, for at least the next five months.
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@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
@kiwi_expat 100% correct. I think Sangster and Howden not being in that 23 is a bit disappointing, they've been very solid over the last 5 or so weeks.
Knowing that it's going to be pretty shitty, you'd think a bigger pack would make a lot more sense.
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According to Wellington Rugby's 2021 media guide James Blackwell is a whopping 114kg which wouldn't make him quite a lightweight as Kiwi-expat described, yet the Canes site lists him as only 107kg?
Can any Hurricanes fan inform us of which weight is actually accurate?
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According to Wellington Rugby's 2021 media guide James Blackwell is a whopping 114kg which wouldn't make him quite a lightweight as Kiwi-expat described, yet the Canes site lists him as only 107kg?
Can any Hurricanes fan inform us of which weight is actually accurate?
@Asterik6 the Hurricanes aren’t very good at updating player details etc. I think he was 107kg when he first came on the scene so that heavier weight is probably accurate. I’ve also seen him at 1.95m, not 1.90 which is probably more accurate aswell.
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@Asterik6 the Hurricanes aren’t very good at updating player details etc. I think he was 107kg when he first came on the scene so that heavier weight is probably accurate. I’ve also seen him at 1.95m, not 1.90 which is probably more accurate aswell.
@Canes4life said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Asterik6 the Hurricanes aren’t very good at updating player details etc. I think he was 107kg when he first came on the scene so that heavier weight is probably accurate. I’ve also seen him at 1.95m, not 1.90 which is probably more accurate aswell.
Most sites list him at 1.90. That seems about right to me. The Cnaes are now terrible at keeping their site up to date. A number of players have no weight and height stats. Annoying and its just one indication of a lack of management and board quality at the Canes
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When standing next to Lomax, Blackwell looks marginally shorter. He surely must be closer to 1.90 m than to 1.95 m IMO. Anyway, this Canes forward pack is probably the smallest of the competition. Its average height is well under 1.90 m.
@cgrant who knows, the Wellington Lions site has him at 1.97m, 122kg. That is definitely bonkers.
I'm going to look closely on Saturday because I don't think he's shorter than Lomax. I don't think he's 1.90m because I'm 1.89m and he's definitely a good 4 cm's taller than I am when I watched him play for Petone a couple years back. Let's say 1.93m and be done with it.
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@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
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@cgrant who knows, the Wellington Lions site has him at 1.97m, 122kg. That is definitely bonkers.
I'm going to look closely on Saturday because I don't think he's shorter than Lomax. I don't think he's 1.90m because I'm 1.89m and he's definitely a good 4 cm's taller than I am when I watched him play for Petone a couple years back. Let's say 1.93m and be done with it.
Still too short for a Super Rugby lock IMO.@Canes4life said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@cgrant who knows, the Wellington Lions site has him at 1.97m, 122kg. That is definitely bonkers.
I'm going to look closely on Saturday because I don't think he's shorter than Lomax. I don't think he's 1.90m because I'm 1.89m and he's definitely a good 4 cm's taller than I am when I watched him play for Petone a couple years back. Let's say 1.93m and be done with it.
Still too short for a Super Rugby lock IMO.A lot of these player height/weight stats tend to feel wrong on the net.
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@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.
And were is Sullivan one of your best players this season -
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.
And were is Sullivan one of your best players this season@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
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@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
Tell you what being a player in the Canes must be very frustrating you play a blinder and next 3 weeks you are not in the 23.
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@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
Tell you what being a player in the Canes must be very frustrating you play a blinder and next 3 weeks you are not in the 23.
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
Tell you what being a player in the Canes must be very frustrating you play a blinder and next 3 weeks you are not in the 23.
That's for sure... not much fun for a Canes supporter either :grinning_face:
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@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
Tell you what being a player in the Canes must be very frustrating you play a blinder and next 3 weeks you are not in the 23.
That's for sure... not much fun for a Canes supporter either :grinning_face:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
Tell you what being a player in the Canes must be very frustrating you play a blinder and next 3 weeks you are not in the 23.
That's for sure... not much fun for a Canes supporter either :grinning_face:
I feel for you mate I sat through the Todd Blackadder coaching years.
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@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
Tell you what being a player in the Canes must be very frustrating you play a blinder and next 3 weeks you are not in the 23.
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@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.
And were is Sullivan one of your best players this season -
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
And were is Sullivan one of your best players this season
Canes website listed him as unavailable
@Duluth said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
And were is Sullivan one of your best players this season
Canes website listed him as unavailable
Injured ? He has really impressed me this season.
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@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
Tell you what being a player in the Canes must be very frustrating you play a blinder and next 3 weeks you are not in the 23.
That's for sure... not much fun for a Canes supporter either :grinning_face:
I feel for you mate I sat through the Todd Blackadder coaching years.
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@NZbloke said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@kiwi_expat said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
@Stargazer said in QF Brumbies vs Hurricanes:
Hurricanes media release:
Unavailable for selection: Devan Flanders, Pepesana Patafilo, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubscher, Bailyn Sullivan
TK Howden or Delany should be starting at 6, there's no size or height in the loose combo, Savea, Kirifi, Gibson are all sub 103kg & 187cm. I'd have 115kg Delany at 6, opening up a place for Sangster on the bench. Gibson or Kirifi out of the 23 altogether. The Brumbies are going to eat this lightweight Hurricanes pack alive.
If the Canes tight-five can do the job it will give our more athletic loosies & also the backs a good platform to work from.
Maybe hard with those lightweight LFs on a cold Canberra night. I don’t think Holland has done you any favours with the forward selections.
Sangster instead of Blackwell
Lose instead of Gibson
Pareke - Stones starting would be better.Reckon it depends how well our tight-five go - even their bigger loosies won't perform well if their tight-five doesn't do the job... yeah, Holland just doesn't have the insight to select our best 15.
Tell you what being a player in the Canes must be very frustrating you play a blinder and next 3 weeks you are not in the 23.
That's for sure... not much fun for a Canes supporter either :grinning_face:
I feel for you mate I sat through the Todd Blackadder coaching years.
:thumbs_up:
