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Chiefs 2023

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Old news now. 😉

    But the story does indicate that Ioane is back too.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/130050108/chiefs-manufacture-unique-japan-deal-for-young-playmaker-kaleb-trask

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    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2023:

    Old news now. 😉

    But the story does indicate that Ioane is back too.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/130050108/chiefs-manufacture-unique-japan-deal-for-young-playmaker-kaleb-trask

    Found that incredibly interesting that was done on Chiefs behest, bloody good planning etc I think, and the kind of thinking that will make Chiefs a force in coming years. Not just planning for the now but th future too!

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      What about McCurran and Leroy Carter ? They looked the goods in the NPC.

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        @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2023:

        https://twitter.com/ChiefsRugby/status/1575255804063920129

        I don't understand why Clayton isn't the head coach in this particular situation?

        Most recently Leon has the most stacked roster in NZ each season, with star players in virtually every position & has been the most propped-up Blues coach in memory, with 3rd party deals & unparalleled resources at his disposal, yet he constantly gets found severely lacking as a coach tactically (and mentally) against quality opposition when it really matters.

        I'm been a lot more impressed with Clayton's body of work with Bay Of Plenty, NZ Maori & the Chiefs over last 5-6 years compared to what McDonald has achieved (it should be noted, with the help of world-class assistants, such as Coventry, Schmidt etc..)

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        @Asterik6 said in Chiefs 2023:

        @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2023:

        https://twitter.com/ChiefsRugby/status/1575255804063920129

        I don't understand why Clayton isn't the head coach in this particular situation?

        Most recently Leon has the most stacked roster in NZ each season, with star players in virtually every position & has been the most propped-up Blues coach in memory, with 3rd party deals & unparalleled resources at his disposal, yet he constantly gets found severely lacking as a coach tactically (and mentally) against quality opposition when it really matters.

        I'm been a lot more impressed with Clayton's body of work with Bay Of Plenty, NZ Maori & the Chiefs over last 5-6 years compared to what McDonald has achieved (it should be noted, with the help of world-class assistants, such as Coventry, Schmidt etc..)

        I agree, MacDonald has done little to evolve his Blues since 2020 and got hopelessly outcoached in SRP final.

        also note what McMillan has achieved with our MABs such as beating Ireland 32-18 this season, he did wonders with BOP as well.

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          What about McCurran and Leroy Carter ? They looked the goods in the NPC.

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          @cgrant Mccurran gives me Ethan Blackadder vibes very rugged loose forward

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            What about McCurran and Leroy Carter ? They looked the goods in the NPC.

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            @cgrant said in Chiefs 2023:

            What about McCurran and Leroy Carter ? They looked the goods in the NPC.

            McCurran wasn't even in the original Waikato squad. Simon Parker is fit again (after multiple injuries/surgery) so will provide more depth at loose forward.

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              Here you go @Stargazer. A day late.

              https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/kaleb-trask-signs-with-honda-heat-returning-in-2024

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                Looking into the future, Gatland will be gone by 2024 as he is in his last year of his contract next season. DMac will likely cash in in Japan or Europe so Trask will be their no.1 option at 1st 5. Reihana could be his backup, with Cashmore and Kemara underneath that. That looks like a decent succession plan to me.

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                  Stevenson to the NRL?

                  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/chiefs-fullback-reportedly-being-targeted-by-new-nrl-side/ar-AA12D4EX?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=1139ccbf376f492186b1a7da7fb96d4c

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                    Stevenson to the NRL?

                    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/chiefs-fullback-reportedly-being-targeted-by-new-nrl-side/ar-AA12D4EX?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=1139ccbf376f492186b1a7da7fb96d4c

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                    @Canes4life said in Chiefs 2023:

                    Stevenson to the NRL?

                    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/chiefs-fullback-reportedly-being-targeted-by-new-nrl-side/ar-AA12D4EX?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=1139ccbf376f492186b1a7da7fb96d4c

                    he is contracted till 2023 if that makes any difference

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      Stevenson to the NRL?

                      https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/chiefs-fullback-reportedly-being-targeted-by-new-nrl-side/ar-AA12D4EX?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=1139ccbf376f492186b1a7da7fb96d4c

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                      @Canes4life said in Chiefs 2023:

                      Stevenson to the NRL?

                      https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/chiefs-fullback-reportedly-being-targeted-by-new-nrl-side/ar-AA12D4EX?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=1139ccbf376f492186b1a7da7fb96d4c

                      While he has looked consistently handy recently, I would hardly describe him as a marquee signing like the article does. Hardly anyone will know who he is. They are not going to get excited over signing a player who is in and out of a Super Team.

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                        If he's going to bail just as he's starting to reach the consistency levels he needs to then surely he could do better than a team scratching around.

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                          it was mentioned in the Southland v NH match thread by @Nogusta on the weekend and he usually has good sauce!

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                            From the highlanders thread it seems maanaki Selby reckit is joining the chiefs

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                              I doubt Retallick stays post-2023 RWC so the Chiefs need to do everything they can to retain the locks they currently have.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                I doubt Retallick stays post-2023 RWC so the Chiefs need to do everything they can to retain the locks they currently have.

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                                Does this mean MSR is a replacement for Brown...meaning Ah Kuoi can slot into the role Brown filled...6/Lock, he has done that well for BOP this season

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                                • OleOleOleO OleOleOle

                                  Does this mean MSR is a replacement for Brown...meaning Ah Kuoi can slot into the role Brown filled...6/Lock, he has done that well for BOP this season

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                                  @OleOleOle said in Chiefs 2023:

                                  Does this mean MSR is a replacement for Brown...meaning Ah Kuoi can slot into the role Brown filled...6/Lock, he has done that well for BOP this season

                                  Good call. Interesting for MSR to pick Chiefs though given the second row numbers there already. Maybe they all know something about time management for BBBR in the RWC year?

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                                    I still believe that the Chiefs will be lacking cover for Cane unless someone else is leaving, or one less back is selected. I don't want to see Luke Jacobson being used there, or Boshier.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      I still believe that the Chiefs will be lacking cover for Cane unless someone else is leaving, or one less back is selected. I don't want to see Luke Jacobson being used there, or Boshier.

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                                      @Bovidae Anyone standing out in NPC?

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                                        @Bovidae Anyone standing out in NPC?

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                                        @Tim For a backup openside, the main options within the franchise area would be Mitch Jacobson, Jacob Norris and Tom Florence. All have been playing well, although Florence has been absent a lot.

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                                          CM can't add much to the options at the moment sadly. Bit of a dry zone for opensiders of quality at the moment.

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