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Hurricanes 2023

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Lakai is 19, so could have a development contract for a year and replace say Prinsep in 2024.

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    @Bovidae Yep, IIRC, they did something similar when Flanders arrived on the scene. Something like a three-year contract, of which the first year was a development contract and the next two years a full contract. The Highlanders have also signed players on contracts that start in 2024.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

      I don't want to become a stuck record on this. But Lakai is another the Canes must sign

      With the big improvement in form by Numia and Lomax the Canes could have some very good front row options. Bird has also surprised me this year so we could have some good lock options. We do need one more quality lock though.

      Lakai looks a future super star to me. He would add another high work rate option along with Savea. Maybe at 7

      In the backs Morgan has improved out of sight this NPC so we might have a quality 1st. But he needs to keep this up. So I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about our chances now. As long as they sign Lakai and resign Barrett

      Do you have room for Lakai in your LF mix with ?
      Blake Gibson, Te Kamaka (TK) Howden, Brayden Iose, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Tyler Laubscher, Reed Prinsep,Ardie Savea,and Caleb Delany
      all still signed I believe a real danger another team may pick him up.

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      @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

      @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

      I don't want to become a stuck record on this. But Lakai is another the Canes must sign

      With the big improvement in form by Numia and Lomax the Canes could have some very good front row options. Bird has also surprised me this year so we could have some good lock options. We do need one more quality lock though.

      Lakai looks a future super star to me. He would add another high work rate option along with Savea. Maybe at 7

      In the backs Morgan has improved out of sight this NPC so we might have a quality 1st. But he needs to keep this up. So I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about our chances now. As long as they sign Lakai and resign Barrett

      Do you have room for Lakai in your LF mix with ?
      Blake Gibson, Te Kamaka (TK) Howden, Brayden Iose, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Tyler Laubscher, Reed Prinsep,Ardie Savea,and Caleb Delany
      all still signed I believe a real danger another team may pick him up.

      Prinsep gone. And don't mind if Gibson goes as well

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      • M Mackerzzzz

        @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

        I don't want to become a stuck record on this. But Lakai is another the Canes must sign

        With the big improvement in form by Numia and Lomax the Canes could have some very good front row options. Bird has also surprised me this year so we could have some good lock options. We do need one more quality lock though.

        Lakai looks a future super star to me. He would add another high work rate option along with Savea. Maybe at 7

        In the backs Morgan has improved out of sight this NPC so we might have a quality 1st. But he needs to keep this up. So I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about our chances now. As long as they sign Lakai and resign Barrett

        Do you have room for Lakai in your LF mix with ?
        Blake Gibson, Te Kamaka (TK) Howden, Brayden Iose, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Tyler Laubscher, Reed Prinsep,Ardie Savea,and Caleb Delany
        all still signed I believe a real danger another team may pick him up.

        Prinsep gone. And don't mind if Gibson goes as well

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        @Mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

        I don't want to become a stuck record on this. But Lakai is another the Canes must sign

        With the big improvement in form by Numia and Lomax the Canes could have some very good front row options. Bird has also surprised me this year so we could have some good lock options. We do need one more quality lock though.

        Lakai looks a future super star to me. He would add another high work rate option along with Savea. Maybe at 7

        In the backs Morgan has improved out of sight this NPC so we might have a quality 1st. But he needs to keep this up. So I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about our chances now. As long as they sign Lakai and resign Barrett

        Do you have room for Lakai in your LF mix with ?
        Blake Gibson, Te Kamaka (TK) Howden, Brayden Iose, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Tyler Laubscher, Reed Prinsep,Ardie Savea,and Caleb Delany
        all still signed I believe a real danger another team may pick him up.

        Prinsep gone. And don't mind if Gibson goes as well

        Still there for 2023 I think.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @Mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

          I don't want to become a stuck record on this. But Lakai is another the Canes must sign

          With the big improvement in form by Numia and Lomax the Canes could have some very good front row options. Bird has also surprised me this year so we could have some good lock options. We do need one more quality lock though.

          Lakai looks a future super star to me. He would add another high work rate option along with Savea. Maybe at 7

          In the backs Morgan has improved out of sight this NPC so we might have a quality 1st. But he needs to keep this up. So I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about our chances now. As long as they sign Lakai and resign Barrett

          Do you have room for Lakai in your LF mix with ?
          Blake Gibson, Te Kamaka (TK) Howden, Brayden Iose, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Tyler Laubscher, Reed Prinsep,Ardie Savea,and Caleb Delany
          all still signed I believe a real danger another team may pick him up.

          Prinsep gone. And don't mind if Gibson goes as well

          Still there for 2023 I think.

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          #241

          @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

          I don't want to become a stuck record on this. But Lakai is another the Canes must sign

          With the big improvement in form by Numia and Lomax the Canes could have some very good front row options. Bird has also surprised me this year so we could have some good lock options. We do need one more quality lock though.

          Lakai looks a future super star to me. He would add another high work rate option along with Savea. Maybe at 7

          In the backs Morgan has improved out of sight this NPC so we might have a quality 1st. But he needs to keep this up. So I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about our chances now. As long as they sign Lakai and resign Barrett

          Do you have room for Lakai in your LF mix with ?
          Blake Gibson, Te Kamaka (TK) Howden, Brayden Iose, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Tyler Laubscher, Reed Prinsep,Ardie Savea,and Caleb Delany
          all still signed I believe a real danger another team may pick him up.

          Prinsep gone. And don't mind if Gibson goes as well

          Still there for 2023 I think.

          Sorry yeah you might be right. Can still hope tho...

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          • M Mackerzzzz

            @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

            I don't want to become a stuck record on this. But Lakai is another the Canes must sign

            With the big improvement in form by Numia and Lomax the Canes could have some very good front row options. Bird has also surprised me this year so we could have some good lock options. We do need one more quality lock though.

            Lakai looks a future super star to me. He would add another high work rate option along with Savea. Maybe at 7

            In the backs Morgan has improved out of sight this NPC so we might have a quality 1st. But he needs to keep this up. So I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about our chances now. As long as they sign Lakai and resign Barrett

            Do you have room for Lakai in your LF mix with ?
            Blake Gibson, Te Kamaka (TK) Howden, Brayden Iose, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Tyler Laubscher, Reed Prinsep,Ardie Savea,and Caleb Delany
            all still signed I believe a real danger another team may pick him up.

            Prinsep gone. And don't mind if Gibson goes as well

            Still there for 2023 I think.

            Sorry yeah you might be right. Can still hope tho...

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            @Mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

            I don't want to become a stuck record on this. But Lakai is another the Canes must sign

            With the big improvement in form by Numia and Lomax the Canes could have some very good front row options. Bird has also surprised me this year so we could have some good lock options. We do need one more quality lock though.

            Lakai looks a future super star to me. He would add another high work rate option along with Savea. Maybe at 7

            In the backs Morgan has improved out of sight this NPC so we might have a quality 1st. But he needs to keep this up. So I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about our chances now. As long as they sign Lakai and resign Barrett

            Do you have room for Lakai in your LF mix with ?
            Blake Gibson, Te Kamaka (TK) Howden, Brayden Iose, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Tyler Laubscher, Reed Prinsep,Ardie Savea,and Caleb Delany
            all still signed I believe a real danger another team may pick him up.

            Prinsep gone. And don't mind if Gibson goes as well

            Still there for 2023 I think.

            Sorry yeah you might be right. Can still hope tho...

            I think so far you guys have let the right players go for next season,except for losing Goosen.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

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                @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

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                • ToddyT Toddy

                  @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

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                  @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                  It seems a strange addition but guess give it time. Who did he replace?

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                  • WingerW Winger

                    @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                    It seems a strange addition but guess give it time. Who did he replace?

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                    @Winger Dan Cron?

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                    • ToddyT Toddy

                      @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

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                      @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                      he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes

                      Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes

                      those that cant...teach

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                        he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes

                        Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes

                        those that cant...teach

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                        he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes

                        Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes

                        those that cant...teach

                        Yep, and to go back a bit Laurie Mains was a damn good forward coach for a fullback.

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                        • ToddyT Toddy

                          @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

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                          @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                          @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                          Must have come into some money after they did not have enough in the kitty to keep Carlos Spencer on but miraculously had enough to hire Tyler Blyendahl a month or so later and now this.

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                            foobaNZ
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                            Yea playing ability isn't an indicator at all of coaching ability.

                            Look at Jason Ryan - Heartland level player but proven at NPC & Super level, and now at International level.

                            God if we kept Princep but didn't snap up Lakai. How disastrous would that be.

                            Thoughts on best back row?

                            Flanders
                            A Savea
                            Lakai

                            It's a strong group we'd have, sans Princep.

                            What Holland will probably pick:

                            Princep
                            Kirifi
                            Ardie

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                              he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes

                              Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes

                              those that cant...teach

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                              he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes

                              Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes

                              those that cant...teach

                              He was also player/coach in the US for a season which is where he got the coaching bug. Came back and did a degree in Sports Science majoring in coaching and management.
                              At least he's taking it seriously.
                              Last I saw him, he was flogging French made gin at a rugby tournament in Wimbledon.

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                              • F foobaNZ

                                Yea playing ability isn't an indicator at all of coaching ability.

                                Look at Jason Ryan - Heartland level player but proven at NPC & Super level, and now at International level.

                                God if we kept Princep but didn't snap up Lakai. How disastrous would that be.

                                Thoughts on best back row?

                                Flanders
                                A Savea
                                Lakai

                                It's a strong group we'd have, sans Princep.

                                What Holland will probably pick:

                                Princep
                                Kirifi
                                Ardie

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                                #252

                                @foobaNZ said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                Yea playing ability isn't an indicator at all of coaching ability.

                                Look at Jason Ryan - Heartland level player but proven at NPC & Super level, and now at International level.

                                God if we kept Princep but didn't snap up Lakai. How disastrous would that be.

                                Thoughts on best back row?

                                Flanders
                                A Savea
                                Lakai

                                It's a strong group we'd have, sans Princep.

                                What Holland will probably pick:

                                Princep
                                Kirifi
                                Ardie

                                On form I would have Delany, Savea, Lakai but because Lakai is only 19 I’d start the year off with Flanders at 8. We also have Howden and Iose who are playing well so we most definitely have quality in that department.

                                If we don’t sign Lakai it will be a travesty.

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                                  In the media release there's more about MacKintosh' playing and coaching history.

                                  https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/mackintosh-joins-hurricanes-as-set-piece-coach/


                                  I was surprised to see the news about his appointment, because I was wondering whether Reggie Goodes would get the gig, but maybe it's too soon. He's coaching club and age grade teams, I think, but probably should coach at NPC level first. Although, that's not what they required when they appointed Bleyendaal, and Cory Jane also only had one year as an assistant coach at NPC level.

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                                    In the media release there's more about MacKintosh' playing and coaching history.

                                    https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/mackintosh-joins-hurricanes-as-set-piece-coach/


                                    I was surprised to see the news about his appointment, because I was wondering whether Reggie Goodes would get the gig, but maybe it's too soon. He's coaching club and age grade teams, I think, but probably should coach at NPC level first. Although, that's not what they required when they appointed Bleyendaal, and Cory Jane also only had one year as an assistant coach at NPC level.

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                                    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                    In the media release there's more about MacKintosh' playing and coaching history.

                                    https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/mackintosh-joins-hurricanes-as-set-piece-coach/


                                    I was surprised to see the news about his appointment, because I was wondering whether Reggie Goodes would get the gig, but maybe it's too soon. He's coaching club and age grade teams, I think, but probably should coach at NPC level first. Although, that's not what they required when they appointed Bleyendaal, and Cory Jane also only had one year as an assistant coach at NPC level.

                                    $Tyler + $Whoppa < $Carlos I would imagine. Carlos actually has some coaching experience, along with Jane those other two should be on apprentice wages

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                      @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                                      he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes

                                      Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes

                                      those that cant...teach

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                      @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                      @Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.

                                      he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes

                                      Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes

                                      those that cant...teach

                                      and those that can't teach...post

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                                        Kirifi staying around at the canes until the end of 2025🙂

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                                          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/duplessis-kirifi-extends-his-contract-with-the-hurricanes-through-2025/

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