Hurricanes 2023
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@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
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@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
It seems a strange addition but guess give it time. Who did he replace?
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@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
It seems a strange addition but guess give it time. Who did he replace?
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@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes
Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes
those that cant...teach
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@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes
Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes
those that cant...teach
@Kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes
Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes
those that cant...teach
Yep, and to go back a bit Laurie Mains was a damn good forward coach for a fullback.
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@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
Must have come into some money after they did not have enough in the kitty to keep Carlos Spencer on but miraculously had enough to hire Tyler Blyendahl a month or so later and now this.
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Yea playing ability isn't an indicator at all of coaching ability.
Look at Jason Ryan - Heartland level player but proven at NPC & Super level, and now at International level.
God if we kept Princep but didn't snap up Lakai. How disastrous would that be.
Thoughts on best back row?
Flanders
A Savea
LakaiIt's a strong group we'd have, sans Princep.
What Holland will probably pick:
Princep
Kirifi
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@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes
Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes
those that cant...teach
@Kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes
Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes
those that cant...teach
He was also player/coach in the US for a season which is where he got the coaching bug. Came back and did a degree in Sports Science majoring in coaching and management.
At least he's taking it seriously.
Last I saw him, he was flogging French made gin at a rugby tournament in Wimbledon. -
Yea playing ability isn't an indicator at all of coaching ability.
Look at Jason Ryan - Heartland level player but proven at NPC & Super level, and now at International level.
God if we kept Princep but didn't snap up Lakai. How disastrous would that be.
Thoughts on best back row?
Flanders
A Savea
LakaiIt's a strong group we'd have, sans Princep.
What Holland will probably pick:
Princep
Kirifi
Ardie@foobaNZ said in Hurricanes 2023:
Yea playing ability isn't an indicator at all of coaching ability.
Look at Jason Ryan - Heartland level player but proven at NPC & Super level, and now at International level.
God if we kept Princep but didn't snap up Lakai. How disastrous would that be.
Thoughts on best back row?
Flanders
A Savea
LakaiIt's a strong group we'd have, sans Princep.
What Holland will probably pick:
Princep
Kirifi
ArdieOn form I would have Delany, Savea, Lakai but because Lakai is only 19 I’d start the year off with Flanders at 8. We also have Howden and Iose who are playing well so we most definitely have quality in that department.
If we don’t sign Lakai it will be a travesty.
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In the media release there's more about MacKintosh' playing and coaching history.
https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/mackintosh-joins-hurricanes-as-set-piece-coach/
I was surprised to see the news about his appointment, because I was wondering whether Reggie Goodes would get the gig, but maybe it's too soon. He's coaching club and age grade teams, I think, but probably should coach at NPC level first. Although, that's not what they required when they appointed Bleyendaal, and Cory Jane also only had one year as an assistant coach at NPC level. -
In the media release there's more about MacKintosh' playing and coaching history.
https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/mackintosh-joins-hurricanes-as-set-piece-coach/
I was surprised to see the news about his appointment, because I was wondering whether Reggie Goodes would get the gig, but maybe it's too soon. He's coaching club and age grade teams, I think, but probably should coach at NPC level first. Although, that's not what they required when they appointed Bleyendaal, and Cory Jane also only had one year as an assistant coach at NPC level.@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
In the media release there's more about MacKintosh' playing and coaching history.
https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/mackintosh-joins-hurricanes-as-set-piece-coach/
I was surprised to see the news about his appointment, because I was wondering whether Reggie Goodes would get the gig, but maybe it's too soon. He's coaching club and age grade teams, I think, but probably should coach at NPC level first. Although, that's not what they required when they appointed Bleyendaal, and Cory Jane also only had one year as an assistant coach at NPC level.$Tyler + $Whoppa < $Carlos I would imagine. Carlos actually has some coaching experience, along with Jane those other two should be on apprentice wages
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@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes
Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes
those that cant...teach
@Kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes
Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes
those that cant...teach
and those that can't teach...post
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Hurricanes 2023:
Kirifi staying around at the canes until the end of 2025
Unlucky
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@Kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Toddy said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Makes sense. A team that struggles with set piece hires an ex player who struggled with set piece to be their coach.
he's come on a long way and seems to be taking coaching very seriously, firstly with otago over southland and now the canes
Otago scrum has looked very good so will be interested in how he goes
those that cant...teach
and those that can't teach...post
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Aslong as Ardie moves back to 7 and Kirifi is our second choice openside I don’t mind this signing. However, if Ardie continues to play at 8 instead of 7 because Holland has a hard on for Kirifi then this is bad news.
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Aslong as Ardie moves back to 7 and Kirifi is our second choice openside I don’t mind this signing. However, if Ardie continues to play at 8 instead of 7 because Holland has a hard on for Kirifi then this is bad news.
@Canes4life It basically means that 5-6 other guys (if they've all re-signed for 2023) are fighting for the 6 jersey (Gibson not included). One will be lucky to get 6, another gets 20. I can see players definitely leaving after the 2023 season, if they haven't already.
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Aslong as Ardie moves back to 7 and Kirifi is our second choice openside I don’t mind this signing. However, if Ardie continues to play at 8 instead of 7 because Holland has a hard on for Kirifi then this is bad news.
@Canes4life
Savea will mostly play 8. kirifi isn't a bad player to have in the squad to cover for injury. Or to rest a better 7. This year will either make or break the canes. Resign Barrett and sign 1 or 2 future ABs (like Lakai, maybe Higgins) and keep Savea and the best of the rest (lomax and players like Wellington based Numia, Aumua, PUJ etc) and team will have a good base to move forward. But lose the best and it will consign the Canes to making up the numbers for years to come.I hope the likes of Tyler Laubsche, PRS, IWL, Flanders (not quite there yet - needs to up his workrate), Mafileo and Morgan kick on too. Even Bird is playing a lot better now he's injury free
Its possible now whereas last year I had given up on the team. Unsure if we have the right coaches. I just worry that the coaches haven't the necessary status / mana to attract and keep the best though. The next few months will tell. Whether I become a super keen Canes supporter again. Or accept a team that's poorly coached with leaders without any real ambition or ability to be the best. Like last year. I felt we never had a hope of winning it. Or even making the final
