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Hurricanes 2023

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  • M Machpants

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

    The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

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    @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

    The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

    Who's injured. 🙂

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

      An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

      The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

      Who's injured. 🙂

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      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

      @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

      An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

      The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

      Who's injured. 🙂

      No he's not, jordie 😉

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      • M Machpants

        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

        An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131267489/hurricanes-lose-key-playmakers-for-super-rugby-pacific-start

        The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

        Who's injured. 🙂

        No he's not, jordie 😉

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        @Machpants Jordie at 10 and Higgins at
        12 might be a good option later in the game. Esp if Morgan has an off game

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        • WingerW Winger

          @Machpants Jordie at 10 and Higgins at
          12 might be a good option later in the game. Esp if Morgan has an off game

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          @Winger Was going to suggest the same thing Winger, can see that happening.

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            Club Rugby article about Roigard:

            https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

              https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

              "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

              The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

              Yawn.
              His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

              Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

              It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

              I think the same argument applies to many other players. Positions at school or club level are often not where you are best employed at higher levels.
              I just get tired of people trying to use this as evidence of Foster being incompetent. If you look at it without bias the story was that Foster openly questioned why he would want to move his best back from the previous year to a different position. That’s a fair call IMO. He was also still committed to some other options at 12 in his plans and had to play that out. RTS hasn’t worked out (for whatever reasons) but you don’t select the guy then throw the option away without trying it just because your best fullback has played a handful of average (albeit with signs) games at 12.
              Give Foster credit that he admits that his initial assessment of the situation was forced to change. He doesn’t hide from that.

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              @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

              https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/02/15/jordie-barrett-on-move-to-12-at-canes-im-trying-to-evolve-game/

              "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

              The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

              Yawn.
              His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

              Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

              It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

              I think the same argument applies to many other players. Positions at school or club level are often not where you are best employed at higher levels.
              I just get tired of people trying to use this as evidence of Foster being incompetent. If you look at it without bias the story was that Foster openly questioned why he would want to move his best back from the previous year to a different position.

              Didn't Foster send his "best back" to wing or did I imagine that?

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

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                @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

                Massive future for Roigard.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                  https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

                  Massive future for Roigard.

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                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                  https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

                  Massive future for Roigard.

                  Amen Canes, I thought he made a huge difference when he came on in Levin last week, and meant to ask if you had thought similar?

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                    https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

                    Massive future for Roigard.

                    Amen Canes, I thought he made a huge difference when he came on in Levin last week, and meant to ask if you had thought similar?

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                    @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                    https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

                    Massive future for Roigard.

                    Amen Canes, I thought he made a huge difference when he came on in Levin last week, and meant to ask if you had thought similar?

                    Yeah in my review he was the best player on the park so no surprises people have him as a bolter for the ABs.

                    He is tactically smart, his kicking and passing (both ways) are top notch and he loves to snipe and take on the line which I love to see.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      Club Rugby article about Roigard:

                      https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/02/22/roigard-revving-up-for-new-hurricanes-season/

                      Massive future for Roigard.

                      Amen Canes, I thought he made a huge difference when he came on in Levin last week, and meant to ask if you had thought similar?

                      Yeah in my review he was the best player on the park so no surprises people have him as a bolter for the ABs.

                      He is tactically smart, his kicking and passing (both ways) are top notch and he loves to snipe and take on the line which I love to see.

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                      @Canes4life Whoops sorry mate ,for some reason I missed your review (I miss forget going back sometimes), but it sounds like you and I are on same page with him being best player on park, I have been raving about him all week!
                      Yep Canes just went back and read your summary, and bugger me we got a problem, both went to same game and saw it pretty well the same!!

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                        #776

                        If Holland goes who is his likely replacement?

                        Plumtree is likely on the outer now. Boyd might not want to come back. Gibbes might be an option . It's likely too. Early for Ellison

                        Anyone got access to the NZ herald article

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                          The next All Blacks coaching appointment looms large over the Hurricanes, too, with Jason Holland firmly in Robertson’s test plans.

                          Holland first joined the Hurricanes as an assistant in 2015 and is about to start his fourth year at the helm.

                          The Hurricanes aren’t as advanced as the Blues and Crusaders in their succession planning yet.

                          They are instead working towards an early April timeframe when they expect the All Blacks appointment to bring certainty about Holland’s future beyond this year.

                          If Holland moves on, the Hurricanes could attempt to lure Palmerston North-based Rennie who led Wellington to the NPC title in 2000.

                          Former Hurricanes coaches John Plumtree is sitting idle after being cast aside by the All Blacks last year while Chris Boyd is in a mentoring role at the Highlanders.

                          Promoting respected forwards coach Chris Gibbes, who guided Waikato and Wellington before assisting Holland with the Hurricanes, is another option.

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                            The next All Blacks coaching appointment looms large over the Hurricanes, too, with Jason Holland firmly in Robertson’s test plans.

                            Holland first joined the Hurricanes as an assistant in 2015 and is about to start his fourth year at the helm.

                            The Hurricanes aren’t as advanced as the Blues and Crusaders in their succession planning yet.

                            They are instead working towards an early April timeframe when they expect the All Blacks appointment to bring certainty about Holland’s future beyond this year.

                            If Holland moves on, the Hurricanes could attempt to lure Palmerston North-based Rennie who led Wellington to the NPC title in 2000.

                            Former Hurricanes coaches John Plumtree is sitting idle after being cast aside by the All Blacks last year while Chris Boyd is in a mentoring role at the Highlanders.

                            Promoting respected forwards coach Chris Gibbes, who guided Waikato and Wellington before assisting Holland with the Hurricanes, is another option.

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                            @Tim said in Hurricanes 2023:

                            with Jason Holland firmly in Robertson’s test plans.

                            I'm officially withdrawing support for Razor.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              The next All Blacks coaching appointment looms large over the Hurricanes, too, with Jason Holland firmly in Robertson’s test plans.

                              Holland first joined the Hurricanes as an assistant in 2015 and is about to start his fourth year at the helm.

                              The Hurricanes aren’t as advanced as the Blues and Crusaders in their succession planning yet.

                              They are instead working towards an early April timeframe when they expect the All Blacks appointment to bring certainty about Holland’s future beyond this year.

                              If Holland moves on, the Hurricanes could attempt to lure Palmerston North-based Rennie who led Wellington to the NPC title in 2000.

                              Former Hurricanes coaches John Plumtree is sitting idle after being cast aside by the All Blacks last year while Chris Boyd is in a mentoring role at the Highlanders.

                              Promoting respected forwards coach Chris Gibbes, who guided Waikato and Wellington before assisting Holland with the Hurricanes, is another option.

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                              @Tim thanks Rennie might be the best option. Bring in Ellison as an assistant. And maybe plumtree

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                                Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                Gibbes can F off.

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                                  Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                  Gibbes can F off.

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                                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                  Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                  Gibbes can F off.

                                  Both rate Blackwell though. And prinsep

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                                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                    Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                    Gibbes can F off.

                                    Both rate Blackwell though. And prinsep

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                      Gibbes can F off.

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                                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                      Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                      Gibbes can F off.

                                      Would Rennie coach the Canes after how shit the organisation treated him in the past? I think he'd prefer the Blues.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                        Gibbes can F off.

                                        Would Rennie coach the Canes after how shit the organisation treated him in the past? I think he'd prefer the Blues.

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                                        @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                        Gibbes can F off.

                                        Would Rennie coach the Canes after how shit the organisation treated him in the past? I think he'd prefer the Blues.

                                        I'd say yes. Esp living in PN

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                                        • WingerW Winger

                                          @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                          Gibbes can F off.

                                          Would Rennie coach the Canes after how shit the organisation treated him in the past? I think he'd prefer the Blues.

                                          I'd say yes. Esp living in PN

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                                          @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          Rennie with Plumtree and Ellison as assistants would do nicely.

                                          Gibbes can F off.

                                          Would Rennie coach the Canes after how shit the organisation treated him in the past? I think he'd prefer the Blues.

                                          I'd say yes. Esp living in PN

                                          Not sure where he has houses will factor into his decision too much. But, his place in the Hutt would be more of a drawcard than the Palmy one.

                                          Guess it depends on how much turnover there's been in the fishheads at the Canes in the last decade.

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