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Hurricanes 2023

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Canes4life If the average Joe blog asks where the Hurricanes are from, I say the lower half of the North Island; or the southern and eastern provinces of the North Island.

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    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Canes4life If the average Joe blog asks where the Hurricanes are from, I say the lower half of the North Island; or the southern and eastern provinces of the North Island.

    The fact that the Hurricanes have been referred to as Wellington on more than two occasions already this year probably suggests most people wouldn’t know the difference. I don’t blame them either really when the Hurricanes were referred to as the Wellington Hurricanes for so long. At the end of the day that’s what most people view them as.

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      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

      @Canes4life If the average Joe blog asks where the Hurricanes are from, I say the lower half of the North Island; or the southern and eastern provinces of the North Island.

      The fact that the Hurricanes have been referred to as Wellington on more than two occasions already this year probably suggests most people wouldn’t know the difference. I don’t blame them either really when the Hurricanes were referred to as the Wellington Hurricanes for so long. At the end of the day that’s what most people view them as.

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      @Canes4life The NZ franchises dropped the names of their provincial bases from their names after the 1999 or 2000 season, so they didn't actually use them for very long.

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        @Canes4life The NZ franchises dropped the names of their provincial bases from their names after the 1999 or 2000 season, so they didn't actually use them for very long.

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        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Canes4life The NZ franchises dropped the names of their provincial bases from their names after the 1999 or 2000 season, so they didn't actually use them for very long.

        That doesn’t change the fact that if you asked most people where the Canes are from, they would probably say Welly.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Canes4life The NZ franchises dropped the names of their provincial bases from their names after the 1999 or 2000 season, so they didn't actually use them for very long.

          That doesn’t change the fact that if you asked most people where the Canes are from, they would probably say Welly.

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          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Canes4life The NZ franchises dropped the names of their provincial bases from their names after the 1999 or 2000 season, so they didn't actually use them for very long.

          That doesn’t change the fact that if you asked most people where the Canes are from, they would probably say Welly.

          Nor does it change the fact that the official name of the team is the Hurricanes.

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            Brad Shields signs for 2024:

            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300840332/hurricanes-confirm-signing-of-former-captain-brad-shields-for-2024

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              Brad Shields signs for 2024:

              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300840332/hurricanes-confirm-signing-of-former-captain-brad-shields-for-2024

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              @Canes4life Not too dissimilar to the Crusaders getting Will Heinz another Kiwi at the backend of his career who represented England.

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                @Canes4life Not too dissimilar to the Crusaders getting Will Heinz another Kiwi at the backend of his career who represented England.

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                @SBW1 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Canes4life Not too dissimilar to the Crusaders getting Will Heinz another Kiwi at the backend of his career who represented England.

                Jesus, nearly everybody's denying young NZers places in Super Squads by giving spots to Poms.

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                  @Canes4life Not too dissimilar to the Crusaders getting Will Heinz another Kiwi at the backend of his career who represented England.

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                  @SBW1 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  @Canes4life Not too dissimilar to the Crusaders getting Will Heinz another Kiwi at the backend of his career who represented England.

                  Brad being 31 is a little different to Heinz who is 35.

                  If Brad was coming back at 35 I would be against it, but the signing only has upside to me due to his experience and the fact he knows what it takes to win a title.

                  They've also only signed him for 2024 so if he comes back and doesn't perform then the Canes have the option of moving on.

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                    Honestly confused by those anti this signing. He's 31 ffs.

                    We have a very young group of loosies, and one absolutely plodder. Swapping the plodder for Shields is a great move (I assume that's what will happen).

                    Not sure how easy it is to find but would be good to know which of our loosies are off contract end of this season.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @SBW1 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      @Canes4life Not too dissimilar to the Crusaders getting Will Heinz another Kiwi at the backend of his career who represented England.

                      Brad being 31 is a little different to Heinz who is 35.

                      If Brad was coming back at 35 I would be against it, but the signing only has upside to me due to his experience and the fact he knows what it takes to win a title.

                      They've also only signed him for 2024 so if he comes back and doesn't perform then the Canes have the option of moving on.

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                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      @SBW1 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      @Canes4life Not too dissimilar to the Crusaders getting Will Heinz another Kiwi at the backend of his career who represented England.

                      Brad being 31 is a little different to Heinz who is 35.

                      If Brad was coming back at 35 I would be against it, but the signing only has upside to me due to his experience and the fact he knows what it takes to win a title.

                      They've also only signed him for 2024 so if he comes back and doesn't perform then the Canes have the option of moving on.

                      It did not count in 2015 though.

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                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @SBW1 said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @Canes4life Not too dissimilar to the Crusaders getting Will Heinz another Kiwi at the backend of his career who represented England.

                        Brad being 31 is a little different to Heinz who is 35.

                        If Brad was coming back at 35 I would be against it, but the signing only has upside to me due to his experience and the fact he knows what it takes to win a title.

                        They've also only signed him for 2024 so if he comes back and doesn't perform then the Canes have the option of moving on.

                        It did not count in 2015 though.

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                        @Higgins not Shields fault Jules dropped a sitter and the TMO had an absolute howler with the Dixon try.

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                          @Higgins not Shields fault Jules dropped a sitter and the TMO had an absolute howler with the Dixon try.

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                          @foobaNZ
                          https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/remembering-the-hurricanes-class-of-2016/
                          He might have been an almost "ever present" in the winning season but looking through the team there were plenty of players that might have had slightly more input into winning the championship than he did.

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                            @foobaNZ
                            https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/remembering-the-hurricanes-class-of-2016/
                            He might have been an almost "ever present" in the winning season but looking through the team there were plenty of players that might have had slightly more input into winning the championship than he did.

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                            @Higgins said in Hurricanes 2023:

                            @foobaNZ
                            https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/remembering-the-hurricanes-class-of-2016/
                            He might have been an almost "ever present" in the winning season but looking through the team there were plenty of players that might have had slightly more input into winning the championship than he did.

                            It's called a team sport, yes there may have been more influential players i.e. Barrett, but Shields was a massive part of our defense and brought that steel required to get the Canes over the line.

                            Maybe embrace the fact we are getting an experienced player back in the environment instead of poking holes in every little detail.

                            We need as much experience as possible considering we are losing Coles and Ardie next year.

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                              Honestly confused by those anti this signing. He's 31 ffs.

                              We have a very young group of loosies, and one absolutely plodder. Swapping the plodder for Shields is a great move (I assume that's what will happen).

                              Not sure how easy it is to find but would be good to know which of our loosies are off contract end of this season.

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                              @foobaNZ said in Hurricanes 2023:

                              Honestly confused by those anti this signing. He's 31 ffs.

                              We have a very young group of loosies, and one absolutely plodder. Swapping the plodder for Shields is a great move (I assume that's what will happen).

                              Not sure how easy it is to find but would be good to know which of our loosies are off contract end of this season.

                              I know right, only because he's from Wellington aye. You wouldn't be getting this push back if Shields was from Hawkes Bay.

                              The likes of @Higgins are trolling at this point.

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                              • F foobaNZ

                                @Higgins not Shields fault Jules dropped a sitter and the TMO had an absolute howler with the Dixon try.

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                                @foobaNZ said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @Higgins not Shields fault Jules dropped a sitter and the TMO had an absolute howler with the Dixon try.

                                He got it down.

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                                  There's a 6 spot available for the taking in the Abs.....

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                                    Here's the Hurricanes media release:

                                    https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-centurion-brad-shields-to-return-to-the-hurricanes-in-2024

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                                      Wonder who the captain will be next year. Shields might be one option. Blackwell another though I hope not . Barrett another. Kirifi another although he doesn't seem to be rated as captaincy material by the Canes coaches. Maybe co-captains. Kirifi and Barrett

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                                        I don’t think Shields will come straight back in and be captain. It’s a hard one because Saturday showed Blackwell and Kirifi not being in the park is a good thing. The Canes make less mistakes and are more disciplined when those two are not there, therefore I wouldn’t want either of them being captain.

                                        Maybe someone like Devan Flanders could be a good option. He seems like a good young leader and captaincy could bring out the best in him.

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                                          I don’t think Shields will come straight back in and be captain. It’s a hard one because Saturday showed Blackwell and Kirifi not being in the park is a good thing. The Canes make less mistakes and are more disciplined when those two are not there, therefore I wouldn’t want either of them being captain.

                                          Maybe someone like Devan Flanders could be a good option. He seems like a good young leader and captaincy could bring out the best in him.

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                                          @Canes4life What sort of form is he in? Also curious on whether he hypothetically would qualify for the All Blacks. While Heinz is unlikely to be picked he would be eligible.

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