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Hurricanes 2023

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @gt12 yeah, Ardie to 7, Flanders to 8 would be ideal.

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    @Canes4life Flanders at 6 and Ardie at 8 is more likely, unfortunately.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @Canes4life Flanders at 6 and Ardie at 8 is more likely, unfortunately.

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      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

      @Canes4life Flanders at 6 and Ardie at 8 is more likely, unfortunately.

      If they play Iose at 7, that could still work.

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      • gt12G gt12

        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

        @Canes4life Flanders at 6 and Ardie at 8 is more likely, unfortunately.

        If they play Iose at 7, that could still work.

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        @gt12 I don't think Iose plays openside though, so not sure whether that will work.

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        • gt12G gt12

          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

          @Canes4life Flanders at 6 and Ardie at 8 is more likely, unfortunately.

          If they play Iose at 7, that could still work.

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          @gt12 if they play Iose at 7, they may aswell play him at 8. No point playing two players out of their best positions.

          I think the best balanced trio for the Canes is 6. Howden 7. Savea 8. Flanders.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @gt12 if they play Iose at 7, they may aswell play him at 8. No point playing two players out of their best positions.

            I think the best balanced trio for the Canes is 6. Howden 7. Savea 8. Flanders.

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            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @gt12 if they play Iose at 7, they may aswell play him at 8. No point playing two players out of their best positions.

            I think the best balanced trio for the Canes is 6. Howden 7. Savea 8. Flanders.

            I agree, but if they insist on playing a 7 at 8, they may as well play an 8 at 7. They could then bring Howden off the bench.

            Was it howden who got a game at 7 this year? I think I remember one of them getting a start there.

            Much of it depends on the pattern they want to play I guess.

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            • gt12G gt12

              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @gt12 if they play Iose at 7, they may aswell play him at 8. No point playing two players out of their best positions.

              I think the best balanced trio for the Canes is 6. Howden 7. Savea 8. Flanders.

              I agree, but if they insist on playing a 7 at 8, they may as well play an 8 at 7. They could then bring Howden off the bench.

              Was it howden who got a game at 7 this year? I think I remember one of them getting a start there.

              Much of it depends on the pattern they want to play I guess.

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              @gt12 nah Howden is very much a 6 who can play 8 if needed, definitely not an openside.

              The pattern they are trying to play ATM with an undersized forward pack is not effective so they definitely need to change things going forward.

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              • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                Flanders and Walker-Leawere sign til 2024.

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                @Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2023:

                Flanders and Walker-Leawere sign til 2024.

                Hurricanes media release:

                https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hawkes-bay-duo-recommit-to-hurricanes-through-2024/

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2023:

                  Flanders and Walker-Leawere sign til 2024.

                  Hurricanes media release:

                  https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hawkes-bay-duo-recommit-to-hurricanes-through-2024/

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                  @Stargazer Does it say Hawkes Bay duo recommit to sporadic starts and long spells on the bench behind Canes superstars Prinsep and Blackwell?

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @Stargazer Does it say Hawkes Bay duo recommit to sporadic starts and long spells on the bench behind Canes superstars Prinsep and Blackwell?

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                    @Nepia Were hoping Prinseep is gone

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                      #90

                      Without trying to start rumours I was talking to someone today that's in close circles with the likes of O'Reilly, J Garden-Bachop and Goosen (who are all leaving the Canes), and his assumption was that a Blues player was on the Hurricanes radar to replace Goosen. Joing the dots it makes me think that could be Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens but I could be wrong.

                      Du Plessis Kirifi commented with a shake hands emoji on JRK's leaving post on Insta so maybe that's a slight hint.

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                        Wishing our departing players all the best for their next chapters. Great men, both on and off the field.
                        Wes Goosen #229
                        James James O'Reilly #238
                        Alex Fidow #245
                        Jackson Garden-Bachop #246
                        Scott Scrafton #268
                        Tei Walden #292
                        Tom Parsons #293

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                          hurricanesrugby Wishing our departing players all the best for their next chapters. Great men, both on and off the field.

                          Wes Goosen #229

                          James James O'Reilly #238

                          Alex Fidow #245

                          Jackson Garden-Bachop #246

                          Scott Scrafton #268

                          Tei Walden #292

                          Tom Parsons #293

                          #canesfamily

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                            Where’s O'Reilly going? Overseas?

                            I know he’s not popular on the fern for whatever reason. However I thought his form was pretty good this year, a big step up from previous seasons

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                              Where’s O'Reilly going? Overseas?

                              I know he’s not popular on the fern for whatever reason. However I thought his form was pretty good this year, a big step up from previous seasons

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                              @Duluth Better than Aumua this year.

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                Where’s O'Reilly going? Overseas?

                                I know he’s not popular on the fern for whatever reason. However I thought his form was pretty good this year, a big step up from previous seasons

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                                @Duluth With that surname, I wonder whether he qualifies for Ireland? Maybe he wants to give that a shot? Haven't seen any signing announcement. Maybe he's just moving to the Highlanders, who could use at least two new hookers.

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                                  Unfortunately no Prinseep BUT does that mean Howden and PUJ are staying??

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                                    Unfortunately no Prinseep BUT does that mean Howden and PUJ are staying??

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                                    @mikey07 why would Howden move? He's had plenty of game time this year for a 20 year old.

                                    Surprised Umaga-Jensen isn't shifting, thought it would be smart to move down and form a centre combo with his bro.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      hurricanesrugby Wishing our departing players all the best for their next chapters. Great men, both on and off the field.

                                      Wes Goosen #229

                                      James James O'Reilly #238

                                      Alex Fidow #245

                                      Jackson Garden-Bachop #246

                                      Scott Scrafton #268

                                      Tei Walden #292

                                      Tom Parsons #293

                                      #canesfamily

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                                      #98

                                      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                      hurricanesrugby Wishing our departing players all the best for their next chapters. Great men, both on and off the field.

                                      Wes Goosen #229

                                      James James O'Reilly #238

                                      Alex Fidow #245

                                      Jackson Garden-Bachop #246

                                      Scott Scrafton #268

                                      Tei Walden #292

                                      Tom Parsons #293

                                      #canesfamily

                                      In that case the Hurricanes squad for 2023 will look something like this

                                      Props:

                                      • Xavier Numia
                                      • Pouri Rakete-Stones
                                      • Pasilio Tosi
                                      • Owen Franks
                                      • Tyrel Lomax
                                      • Tevita Mafileo
                                      • ?? I think we need another experienced prop here - not sure who that would be though.

                                      Hookers:

                                      • Asafo Aumua
                                      • Dane Coles
                                      • ?? Jacob Devery or Raymond Tuputupu would be my main contenders to replace O'Reilly

                                      Locks:

                                      • James Blackwell
                                      • Dominic Bird
                                      • Justin Sangster
                                      • Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                      • ?? my wish list would be to get someone like Pari Pari Parkinson from the Landers.

                                      Loose Forwards:

                                      • Caleb Delany
                                      • Blake Gibson
                                      • Reed Prinsep
                                      • TK Howden
                                      • Devan Flanders
                                      • Ardie Savea
                                      • Tyler Laubscher
                                      • Du Plessis-Kirifi
                                      • Brayden Iose

                                      Halfbacks:

                                      • TJ Perenara
                                      • Cam Roigard
                                      • Jamie Booth

                                      First Fives:

                                      • Aiden Morgan
                                      • Ruben Love
                                      • ?? Brett Cameron or Harry Godfrey from the Under 20s

                                      Centres:

                                      • Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                      • Bailyn Sullivan
                                      • Billy Proctor
                                      • ?? Riley Higgins would be my pick to replace Tei Walden as he debuted this year.

                                      Outside backs:

                                      • Josh Moorby
                                      • Julian Savea
                                      • Salesi Rayasi
                                      • Jordie Barrett
                                      • Pepesani Patafilo (not sure if his contract will be extended)
                                      • ?? Someone like Connor Garden-Bachop, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens or Chay Fihaki would make quality replacements for Goosen. Harry Godfrey is another from the Under 20s.
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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        hurricanesrugby Wishing our departing players all the best for their next chapters. Great men, both on and off the field.

                                        Wes Goosen #229

                                        James James O'Reilly #238

                                        Alex Fidow #245

                                        Jackson Garden-Bachop #246

                                        Scott Scrafton #268

                                        Tei Walden #292

                                        Tom Parsons #293

                                        #canesfamily

                                        In that case the Hurricanes squad for 2023 will look something like this

                                        Props:

                                        • Xavier Numia
                                        • Pouri Rakete-Stones
                                        • Pasilio Tosi
                                        • Owen Franks
                                        • Tyrel Lomax
                                        • Tevita Mafileo
                                        • ?? I think we need another experienced prop here - not sure who that would be though.

                                        Hookers:

                                        • Asafo Aumua
                                        • Dane Coles
                                        • ?? Jacob Devery or Raymond Tuputupu would be my main contenders to replace O'Reilly

                                        Locks:

                                        • James Blackwell
                                        • Dominic Bird
                                        • Justin Sangster
                                        • Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                        • ?? my wish list would be to get someone like Pari Pari Parkinson from the Landers.

                                        Loose Forwards:

                                        • Caleb Delany
                                        • Blake Gibson
                                        • Reed Prinsep
                                        • TK Howden
                                        • Devan Flanders
                                        • Ardie Savea
                                        • Tyler Laubscher
                                        • Du Plessis-Kirifi
                                        • Brayden Iose

                                        Halfbacks:

                                        • TJ Perenara
                                        • Cam Roigard
                                        • Jamie Booth

                                        First Fives:

                                        • Aiden Morgan
                                        • Ruben Love
                                        • ?? Brett Cameron or Harry Godfrey from the Under 20s

                                        Centres:

                                        • Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                        • Bailyn Sullivan
                                        • Billy Proctor
                                        • ?? Riley Higgins would be my pick to replace Tei Walden as he debuted this year.

                                        Outside backs:

                                        • Josh Moorby
                                        • Julian Savea
                                        • Salesi Rayasi
                                        • Jordie Barrett
                                        • Pepesani Patafilo (not sure if his contract will be extended)
                                        • ?? Someone like Connor Garden-Bachop, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens or Chay Fihaki would make quality replacements for Goosen. Harry Godfrey is another from the Under 20s.
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                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        hurricanesrugby Wishing our departing players all the best for their next chapters. Great men, both on and off the field.

                                        Wes Goosen #229

                                        James James O'Reilly #238

                                        Alex Fidow #245

                                        Jackson Garden-Bachop #246

                                        Scott Scrafton #268

                                        Tei Walden #292

                                        Tom Parsons #293

                                        #canesfamily

                                        In that case the Hurricanes squad for 2023 will look something like this

                                        Props:

                                        • Xavier Numia
                                        • Pouri Rakete-Stones
                                        • Pasilio Tosi
                                        • Owen Franks
                                        • Tyrel Lomax
                                        • Tevita Mafileo
                                        • ?? I think we need another experienced prop here - not sure who that would be though.

                                        Hookers:

                                        • Asafo Aumua
                                        • Dane Coles
                                        • ?? Jacob Devery or Raymond Tuputupu would be my main contenders to replace O'Reilly

                                        Locks:

                                        • James Blackwell
                                        • Dominic Bird
                                        • Justin Sangster
                                        • Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                        • ?? my wish list would be to get someone like Pari Pari Parkinson from the Landers.

                                        Loose Forwards:

                                        • Caleb Delany
                                        • Blake Gibson
                                        • Reed Prinsep
                                        • TK Howden
                                        • Devan Flanders
                                        • Ardie Savea
                                        • Tyler Laubscher
                                        • Du Plessis-Kirifi
                                        • Brayden Iose

                                        Halfbacks:

                                        • TJ Perenara
                                        • Cam Roigard
                                        • Jamie Booth

                                        First Fives:

                                        • Aiden Morgan
                                        • Ruben Love
                                        • ?? Brett Cameron or Harry Godfrey from the Under 20s

                                        Centres:

                                        • Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                        • Bailyn Sullivan
                                        • Billy Proctor
                                        • ?? Riley Higgins would be my pick to replace Tei Walden as he debuted this year.

                                        Outside backs:

                                        • Josh Moorby
                                        • Julian Savea
                                        • Salesi Rayasi
                                        • Jordie Barrett
                                        • Pepesani Patafilo (not sure if his contract will be extended)
                                        • ?? Someone like Connor Garden-Bachop, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens or Chay Fihaki would make quality replacements for Goosen. Harry Godfrey is another from the Under 20s.

                                        I reckon you are top heavy in forwards 24/16 split seems a bit out, its normally 38 man squad.You have a potential 40 in your squad.
                                        Something like a 21/17 or 22/16 split.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @mikey07 why would Howden move? He's had plenty of game time this year for a 20 year old.

                                          Surprised Umaga-Jensen isn't shifting, thought it would be smart to move down and form a centre combo with his bro.

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                                          @Canes4life I haven’t heard anything in terms of resigning and as far as I’m aware when they first sign Super Rugby contracts it’s only for a year.

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