All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Yeah sure the Barrett clean out might not reach the red card threshold, but fuck what's the point in what he did? Beyond stupid, like his 3-4 dives over the ruck early in the game for absolutely zero result other than giving us shit ball and the ref a reason to penalise us. Someone needs to sit him down with these clips and ask him why, tell him to pull his head in.
Edit: without that shit it was a top notch locks game.
Red definitely fell into 'old' habits once fatigue set in. In saying that the guy has a huge engine for a big guy.
@Toddy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Yeah sure the Barrett clean out might not reach the red card threshold, but fuck what's the point in what he did? Beyond stupid, like his 3-4 dives over the ruck early in the game for absolutely zero result other than giving us shit ball and the ref a reason to penalise us. Someone needs to sit him down with these clips and ask him why, tell him to pull his head in.
Edit: without that shit it was a top notch locks game.
Red definitely fell into 'old' habits once fatigue set in. In saying that the guy has a huge engine for a big guy.
Except he was diving over rucks right from the start (along with rolling the ball along the deck when he got tackled).
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@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
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@Dan54 safe from what? If any of them were ill, like any normal person, they shouldnt come in to work.
When the few of my work colleagues returned to work after covid or isolating due to a house member with covid, we didnt wear masks, is that a thing now?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Dan54 safe from what? If any of them were ill, like any normal person, they shouldnt come in to work.
When the few of my work colleagues returned to work after covid or isolating due to a house member with covid, we didnt wear masks, is that a thing now?
I think it recommended that Masks are worn in enclosed places, not a rule, but recommendation, and think with Cpvid in ranks it pays to be safe is all, and show it?
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It's quite strange people are saying how crap JGP is when he was a key cog in any Irish go forward. One of their top players during 6n and without him their attack is nonexistent.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
We already have a ginga in the squad and now you want to add one of the most punchable faces in existence?
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@Stag said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@African-Monkey 6 runs for 1 meter gained and 14 tackles is hardly earth shattering for an All Black 7 and captain.
really, 14 tackles and a good percentage of them dominant, christ some of you probably need to learn about the game. it's not about stats, but who makes a difference on field and Cane surely does!
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Stag said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@African-Monkey 6 runs for 1 meter gained and 14 tackles is hardly earth shattering for an All Black 7 and captain.
really, 14 tackles and a good percentage of them dominant, chirst some of you probably need to learn about the game. it's not about stats, but who makes a difference on field and Cane surely does!
Stats are only part of it - running off the ball, cleaning, tough metres on your line, dominant tackles, straight running…lots of quality measures. Sometimes you can do all of that and the game doesn’t go your way. Other times you look like a star. That’s why the media ratings are always bollocks. They don’t know the game plan, they have to produce something to a deadline, they won’t have reviewed the game…still sells papers and we love it when our favourite player is lauded.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
Yeah, an ALB like performance with some of the tidy up he did. He's not as light footed as ALB but is stronger in the tackle.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
We already have a ginga in the squad and now you want to add one of the most punchable faces in existence?
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.
We already have a ginga in the squad and now you want to add one of the most punchable faces in existence?
I've never heard he has even the slightest of punchable faces, let alone up the ladder in terms of existence. I don't find his looks very noteworthy at all. Strange take...
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
How come last year or two we have been underpowered in the forwards playing SA, France, Ireland with the bulk of the forwards the same as today. Taylor, Ofa, SW, BBBR, Sam C, Ardie, ScoBa.
This time they were great. Loved the error free play and ball retention.Sam Whitelock deserves a knighthood
Think we should bring in a next gen prop to give experience Newell, Norris
It’s called sport
Sometimes it’s your night and sometimes it’s not.
Sure I want it to be our night every night, but I’m not 15yo anymore where I think it’s an injustice or some world shattering event when it’s not.
@ACT-Crusader If we win the big gong in France next year with all those geriatrics it will be our greatest achievement
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A small flicker of hope rekindled for France 2023.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.
The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.
Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.
That’s what you’ll get from QT. Strong direct carrying, solid physical defense and I like that he error rate across the board is low. Whether that’s enough to hold off Goodhue, Havili, RTS & ALB remains to be seen. There is some stiff competition.
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I am happy about the win, but from my vantage point (mobile phone at the pub surrounded by AFL supporters) I was a tad concerned at how the Irish appeared to comfortably make ground and it seemed they crossed the AB try line every chance they got. Sure they fluffed their lines and failed to score a couple of times but the Irish will take heart from it.
Also, to gain physical dominace it looked like quite a mental and physical effort from the ABs. We have seen a few games like this over the last couple of years only for the team to not back it up consistently.
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
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I am happy about the win, but from my vantage point (mobile phone at the pub surrounded by AFL supporters) I was a tad concerned at how the Irish appeared to comfortably make ground and it seemed they crossed the AB try line every chance they got. Sure they fluffed their lines and failed to score a couple of times but the Irish will take heart from it.
Also, to gain physical dominace it looked like quite a mental and physical effort from the ABs. We have seen a few games like this over the last couple of years only for the team to not back it up consistently.
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
@Crazy-Horse AB forwards maintained possession . Last couple of years dropped the groceries in a wet paper bag
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I am happy about the win, but from my vantage point (mobile phone at the pub surrounded by AFL supporters) I was a tad concerned at how the Irish appeared to comfortably make ground and it seemed they crossed the AB try line every chance they got. Sure they fluffed their lines and failed to score a couple of times but the Irish will take heart from it.
Also, to gain physical dominace it looked like quite a mental and physical effort from the ABs. We have seen a few games like this over the last couple of years only for the team to not back it up consistently.
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.
Early days, but it was a big improvement.
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I am happy about the win, but from my vantage point (mobile phone at the pub surrounded by AFL supporters) I was a tad concerned at how the Irish appeared to comfortably make ground and it seemed they crossed the AB try line every chance they got. Sure they fluffed their lines and failed to score a couple of times but the Irish will take heart from it.
Also, to gain physical dominace it looked like quite a mental and physical effort from the ABs. We have seen a few games like this over the last couple of years only for the team to not back it up consistently.
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
@Crazy-Horse yeah I said earlier it was a paper over the cracks win. For all the dominance, we didn't seem... well... dominant. A lot of it was down to Ireland shitting the bed. We didn't seem cohesive and fluent.
But maybe that's our plan.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.
Early days, but it was a big improvement.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.
Early days, but it was a big improvement.
Definitely a start but we have seen performances like that before.
I was thinking along the line of changes to attacking or defensive structures etc. Might be too early to tell I suppose, but nothing obvious jumped out at me.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.
Early days, but it was a big improvement.
Definitely a start but we have seen performances like that before.
I was thinking along the line of changes to attacking or defensive structures etc. Might be too early to tell I suppose, but nothing obvious jumped out at me.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.
Early days, but it was a big improvement.
Definitely a start but we have seen performances like that before.
I was thinking along the line of changes to attacking or defensive structures etc. Might be too early to tell I suppose, but nothing obvious jumped out at me.
Perhaps they are focussed on doing the basics well for extended periods of time? It was certainly needed.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.
Early days, but it was a big improvement.
Definitely a start but we have seen performances like that before.
I was thinking along the line of changes to attacking or defensive structures etc. Might be too early to tell I suppose, but nothing obvious jumped out at me.
Perhaps they are focussed on doing the basics well for extended periods of time? It was certainly needed.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough
I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.
Early days, but it was a big improvement.
Definitely a start but we have seen performances like that before.
I was thinking along the line of changes to attacking or defensive structures etc. Might be too early to tell I suppose, but nothing obvious jumped out at me.
Perhaps they are focussed on doing the basics well for extended periods of time? It was certainly needed.
I think QT typified our performance. Nothing flashy, calm and understated, fundamentally solid
