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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

    Peddant alert ⚠️

    Uh, it's pendant dude

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

    Peddant alert ⚠️

    Uh, it's pendant dude

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

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      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

      Oh sure, we'll just go dusrispicting your childhood heroes eh. I'm sure Shaun Fitspatrack won't mind.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

        Oh sure, we'll just go dusrispicting your childhood heroes eh. I'm sure Shaun Fitspatrack won't mind.

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        #1744

        @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

        Oh sure, we'll just go dusrispicting your childhood heroes eh. I'm sure Shaun Fitspatrack won't mind.

        Dafydd Latter was more of a childhood hero for me...but i actually dont think he'd care

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

          Oh sure, we'll just go dusrispicting your childhood heroes eh. I'm sure Shaun Fitspatrack won't mind.

          Dafydd Latter was more of a childhood hero for me...but i actually dont think he'd care

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          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

          Oh sure, we'll just go dusrispicting your childhood heroes eh. I'm sure Shaun Fitspatrack won't mind.

          Dafydd Latter was more of a childhood hero for me...but i actually dont think he'd care

          Just don't talk to me about Pull Cocke

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

            Oh sure, we'll just go dusrispicting your childhood heroes eh. I'm sure Shaun Fitspatrack won't mind.

            Dafydd Latter was more of a childhood hero for me...but i actually dont think he'd care

            Just don't talk to me about Pull Cocke

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            Kiwiwomble
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            #1746

            @Bones side note, actually a top bloke, he and John leslie use to coach one of my school teams

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

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              @Kiwiwomble it’s it’s not its 😉

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                god i hate this place

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @Bones side note, actually a top bloke, he and John leslie use to coach one of my school teams

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Bones side note, actually a top bloke, he and John leslie use to coach one of my school teams

                  Leslie

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @Bones side note, actually a top bloke, he and John leslie use to coach one of my school teams

                    Leslie

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                    @Bones no more upvote's for you

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @Bones no more upvote's for you

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                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Bones no more upvote's for you

                      Upvotes

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

                        Peddant alert ⚠️

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                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

                        Peddant alert ⚠️

                        Love you're work

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

                          No only @Bones

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

                            No only @Bones

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                            @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            @Bones jesus, its a typo 👀

                            No only @Bones

                            https://twitter.com/ThatBloke_Jesus/status/1543233968631422977?t=XDkWRWZ4znPaaQGW731Kgw&s=19

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                              reprobate
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                              Bit late to the party, but I'm on board with the "let's not get too carried away" side. Scores were very close at about 30 minutes when we got an intercept try and their long-term 10 and captain went off injured, and they still went on to score a lot of points - and could have scored quite a few more on another day with the several tries they blew / we saved. Scoreline looks great, but our defense was generally pretty shit until they got to our line.
                              A lot of aimless kicking the ball away (and one absolute gem for the try). We keep doing this, and luck had it that in this game we weren't punished for it because the Irish kept making mistakes. We continue to lose possession and territory stats, and we will be punished for it again.

                              Good things:
                              Tupaea's hands and options
                              Smith is a national treasure
                              Ioane's defence was unreal
                              Whitelock just keeps going
                              Savea late in the game
                              Bower and Ofa looked alright
                              Competing in lineouts

                              Bad things / jury still out:
                              Christie was a big drop in passing accuracy, not sure he can play the same style effectively
                              Jordie looked a bit scratchy
                              Samisoni should be starting
                              Ardie should be a bench player
                              I know we've been spoiled at 7 forever, but Cane - while a genuinely excellent defender - doesn't offer a lot else
                              Retallick was okay, but is he going to get back to his best?
                              Not convinced by Ioane's passing and options still

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                              • R reprobate

                                Bit late to the party, but I'm on board with the "let's not get too carried away" side. Scores were very close at about 30 minutes when we got an intercept try and their long-term 10 and captain went off injured, and they still went on to score a lot of points - and could have scored quite a few more on another day with the several tries they blew / we saved. Scoreline looks great, but our defense was generally pretty shit until they got to our line.
                                A lot of aimless kicking the ball away (and one absolute gem for the try). We keep doing this, and luck had it that in this game we weren't punished for it because the Irish kept making mistakes. We continue to lose possession and territory stats, and we will be punished for it again.

                                Good things:
                                Tupaea's hands and options
                                Smith is a national treasure
                                Ioane's defence was unreal
                                Whitelock just keeps going
                                Savea late in the game
                                Bower and Ofa looked alright
                                Competing in lineouts

                                Bad things / jury still out:
                                Christie was a big drop in passing accuracy, not sure he can play the same style effectively
                                Jordie looked a bit scratchy
                                Samisoni should be starting
                                Ardie should be a bench player
                                I know we've been spoiled at 7 forever, but Cane - while a genuinely excellent defender - doesn't offer a lot else
                                Retallick was okay, but is he going to get back to his best?
                                Not convinced by Ioane's passing and options still

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                                Bones
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                                @reprobate said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                Christie was a big drop in passing accuracy, not sure he can play the same style effectively

                                I'd say really similar in style to JGP actually. Which has certainly been an effective style for Ireland, but almost the opposite of Smith in terms of distribution.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @reprobate said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  Christie was a big drop in passing accuracy, not sure he can play the same style effectively

                                  I'd say really similar in style to JGP actually. Which has certainly been an effective style for Ireland, but almost the opposite of Smith in terms of distribution.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  @reprobate said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  Christie was a big drop in passing accuracy, not sure he can play the same style effectively

                                  I'd say really similar in style to JGP actually. Which has certainly been an effective style for Ireland, but almost the opposite of Smith in terms of distribution.

                                  Yeah Christie's a good player: urgent, good motor, into everything - and decision-making is improving. But he can't pass like Aaron Smith, and that speed and width of delivery is what our game is based on. Especially now we are subbing Smith earlier, I think we need to give Fakatava a crack as soon as possible, because I feel like his speed of delivery from the base of the ruck is potentially the closest and can keep us playing a similar style rather than having to change halfway through a game.
                                  Fakatava doesn't have the accuracy or length of pass of Smith, or the clarity in choosing who to hit - but then nobody does, and hopefully that can be worked on.

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                                    Daffy Jaffy
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                                    Interesting analysis from Squidge -

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                                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                      Interesting analysis from Squidge -

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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      Interesting analysis from Squidge -

                                      Need a VPN, sky has blocked it in NZ

                                      Highlander's take from the roar

                                      https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/07/07/time-to-give-the-all-blacks-coaching-team-some-credit-after-innovative-solutions-overcame-ireland/

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        Interesting analysis from Squidge -

                                        Need a VPN, sky has blocked it in NZ

                                        Highlander's take from the roar

                                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/07/07/time-to-give-the-all-blacks-coaching-team-some-credit-after-innovative-solutions-overcame-ireland/

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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        Interesting analysis from Squidge -

                                        Need a VPN, sky has blocked it in NZ

                                        Highlander's take from the roar

                                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/07/07/time-to-give-the-all-blacks-coaching-team-some-credit-after-innovative-solutions-overcame-ireland/

                                        That was pretty good, but also completely terrifying in that it shows our total reliance on Aaron Smith.

                                        Let's hope Fakatava is the 2nd coming!

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          Interesting analysis from Squidge -

                                          Need a VPN, sky has blocked it in NZ

                                          Highlander's take from the roar

                                          https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/07/07/time-to-give-the-all-blacks-coaching-team-some-credit-after-innovative-solutions-overcame-ireland/

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                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          Interesting analysis from Squidge -

                                          Need a VPN, sky has blocked it in NZ

                                          Highlander's take from the roar

                                          https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/07/07/time-to-give-the-all-blacks-coaching-team-some-credit-after-innovative-solutions-overcame-ireland/

                                          Good analysis. Some very good points about the type of defending that goes unnoticed and the role that Cane is playing (being first to the attacking breakdown) which is something that goes unnoticed and unmentioned by commentators and stats.

                                          I do wonder if that gameplan will now be shelved until needed and a different picture will be painted with the different loosie mix.

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