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Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match

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    Lomax having a mare

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

      Our locks have been very good tonight.

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      @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

      Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

      Our locks have been very good tonight.

      He's just a touch faster than Weber, mainly cos he didn't seem to think before every pass

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        This should be giving the ABS some food for thought while also sowing a few seeds of doubt in Irish minds

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          @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

          Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

          Our locks have been very good tonight.

          He's just a touch faster than Weber, mainly cos he didn't seem to think before every pass

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          @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

          @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

          Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

          Our locks have been very good tonight.

          He's just a touch less slow than Weber, mainly cos he didn't seem to think before every pass

          😉

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            Impressed with Cameron Suafua , some really strong carries

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

              Our locks have been very good tonight.

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              @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

              Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

              Our locks have been very good tonight.

              Isaia Walker-Leawere has been very good since returning from a lengthy injury. Glad he’s signed on for the Canes and I hope he makes it to that next level. His big frame is a massive asset, just needs to lift that work rate.

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                @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @Duluth said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @Duluth ABs were "smashed" in Dublin last November and the Irish performance was savoured in the NH as a standout. Do the AB performances now get an asterisk against them?

                Not sure who you are arguing with or what you are arguing about

                I wasn't arguing 🙂

                Just a comment to yours. Touring sides in NH rarely get an excuse that they are at the end of a long season or that they are playing second stringers. You can only beat what is put in front of you, tired or not. All end of year tours have an element of fatigue for the touring side.

                Cos the ABs are (should be) above excuses

                When ABs were so far ahead of the pack, that was understandable. Now there is no gap, the small differences that fatigue (especially mental) have on performance can be acknowledged.

                Winning away from home at the end of the season is achievable, but not to be expected. You guys had a ridiculous run in the NH for a period in 2000s/2010s.

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                @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @Duluth said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                @Duluth ABs were "smashed" in Dublin last November and the Irish performance was savoured in the NH as a standout. Do the AB performances now get an asterisk against them?

                Not sure who you are arguing with or what you are arguing about

                I wasn't arguing 🙂

                Just a comment to yours. Touring sides in NH rarely get an excuse that they are at the end of a long season or that they are playing second stringers. You can only beat what is put in front of you, tired or not. All end of year tours have an element of fatigue for the touring side.

                Cos the ABs are (should be) above excuses

                When ABs were so far ahead of the pack, that was understandable. Now there is no gap, the small differences that fatigue (especially mental) have on performance can be acknowledged.

                Winning away from home at the end of the season is achievable, but not to be expected. You guys had a ridiculous run in the NH for a period in 2000s/2010s.

                Nope the fans and ABs demand for excellence is what keeps it. No excuses, and foster 'long season' excuses are a big help for decent into the pack. If he fell on his sword when they lost to arg, or Hansen did when didn't win the lions, then ABs would still be ahead. With hungrier, more innovative coaches

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                  that was a good clearnace under pressure

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                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                    @Duluth said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                    @Duluth ABs were "smashed" in Dublin last November and the Irish performance was savoured in the NH as a standout. Do the AB performances now get an asterisk against them?

                    Not sure who you are arguing with or what you are arguing about

                    I wasn't arguing 🙂

                    Just a comment to yours. Touring sides in NH rarely get an excuse that they are at the end of a long season or that they are playing second stringers. You can only beat what is put in front of you, tired or not. All end of year tours have an element of fatigue for the touring side.

                    I agree.. and if they are tired I hope the ABs inflict some mental scars

                    I also want to know from the Irish fans if this squad lacks the depth to put out a good B side

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                    @Duluth said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                    @Duluth said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                    @Duluth ABs were "smashed" in Dublin last November and the Irish performance was savoured in the NH as a standout. Do the AB performances now get an asterisk against them?

                    Not sure who you are arguing with or what you are arguing about

                    I wasn't arguing 🙂

                    Just a comment to yours. Touring sides in NH rarely get an excuse that they are at the end of a long season or that they are playing second stringers. You can only beat what is put in front of you, tired or not. All end of year tours have an element of fatigue for the touring side.

                    I agree.. and if they are tired I hope the ABs inflict some mental scars

                    I also want to know from the Irish fans if this squad lacks the depth to put out a good B side

                    I don't think they lack depth. They do lack exposure to test match tour rugby though.

                    Think Farrell said that there are several players with 20 caps that have never toured before. He sees this tour as a good way to gauge if they can step up to become legitimate 1st XV players.

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                      Irish accuracy is hurting them just as they build pressure.

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                        Gee, Zarn Sullvan seems to have all the time in the world, doesn't he?

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                          Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

                          Our locks have been very good tonight.

                          Isaia Walker-Leawere has been very good since returning from a lengthy injury. Glad he’s signed on for the Canes and I hope he makes it to that next level. His big frame is a massive asset, just needs to lift that work rate.

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                          @Canes4life said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                          @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                          Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

                          Our locks have been very good tonight.

                          Isaia Walker-Leawere has been very good since returning from a lengthy injury. Glad he’s signed on for the Canes and I hope he makes it to that next level. His big frame is a massive asset, just needs to lift that work rate.

                          Hits hard and sniffs out his opportunities at the breakdown. I would say that his fitness is probably a work on. A bit of walking in between ply.

                          Dickson has been very impressive and if he played like tonight wouldn’t look out of place if the ABs were in an emergency.

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                            @Canes4life said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                            Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

                            Our locks have been very good tonight.

                            Isaia Walker-Leawere has been very good since returning from a lengthy injury. Glad he’s signed on for the Canes and I hope he makes it to that next level. His big frame is a massive asset, just needs to lift that work rate.

                            Hits hard and sniffs out his opportunities at the breakdown. I would say that his fitness is probably a work on. A bit of walking in between ply.

                            Dickson has been very impressive and if he played like tonight wouldn’t look out of place if the ABs were in an emergency.

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                            @Canes4life said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                            Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

                            Our locks have been very good tonight.

                            Isaia Walker-Leawere has been very good since returning from a lengthy injury. Glad he’s signed on for the Canes and I hope he makes it to that next level. His big frame is a massive asset, just needs to lift that work rate.

                            Hits hard and sniffs out his opportunities at the breakdown. I would say that his fitness is probably a work on. A bit of walking in between ply.

                            Dickson has been very impressive and if he played like tonight wouldn’t look out of place if the ABs were in an emergency.

                            He certainly has a belly on him. Looks a bit like Skelton pre UK

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                              @Canes4life said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                              Congrats to TJP making his MABs debut and on as captain.

                              Our locks have been very good tonight.

                              Isaia Walker-Leawere has been very good since returning from a lengthy injury. Glad he’s signed on for the Canes and I hope he makes it to that next level. His big frame is a massive asset, just needs to lift that work rate.

                              Hits hard and sniffs out his opportunities at the breakdown. I would say that his fitness is probably a work on. A bit of walking in between ply.

                              Dickson has been very impressive and if he played like tonight wouldn’t look out of place if the ABs were in an emergency.

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                              @ACT-Crusader agreed, if he can get that fitness up he will be a weapon.

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                                Classy touch from Suafoa. Still moving bodies at the breakdown too

                                His style of play reminds me a little of Hemopo

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                                  Don't know much about Pohipi but he's been good tonight. Not spectacular but really solid and consistent.

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                                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @Duluth said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @Duluth ABs were "smashed" in Dublin last November and the Irish performance was savoured in the NH as a standout. Do the AB performances now get an asterisk against them?

                                    Not sure who you are arguing with or what you are arguing about

                                    I wasn't arguing 🙂

                                    Just a comment to yours. Touring sides in NH rarely get an excuse that they are at the end of a long season or that they are playing second stringers. You can only beat what is put in front of you, tired or not. All end of year tours have an element of fatigue for the touring side.

                                    Cos the ABs are (should be) above excuses

                                    When ABs were so far ahead of the pack, that was understandable. Now there is no gap, the small differences that fatigue (especially mental) have on performance can be acknowledged.

                                    Winning away from home at the end of the season is achievable, but not to be expected. You guys had a ridiculous run in the NH for a period in 2000s/2010s.

                                    Nope the fans and ABs demand for excellence is what keeps it. No excuses, and foster 'long season' excuses are a big help for decent into the pack. If he fell on his sword when they lost to arg, or Hansen did when didn't win the lions, then ABs would still be ahead. With hungrier, more innovative coaches

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                                    @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @Duluth said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @stodders said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                    @Duluth ABs were "smashed" in Dublin last November and the Irish performance was savoured in the NH as a standout. Do the AB performances now get an asterisk against them?

                                    Not sure who you are arguing with or what you are arguing about

                                    I wasn't arguing 🙂

                                    Just a comment to yours. Touring sides in NH rarely get an excuse that they are at the end of a long season or that they are playing second stringers. You can only beat what is put in front of you, tired or not. All end of year tours have an element of fatigue for the touring side.

                                    Cos the ABs are (should be) above excuses

                                    When ABs were so far ahead of the pack, that was understandable. Now there is no gap, the small differences that fatigue (especially mental) have on performance can be acknowledged.

                                    Winning away from home at the end of the season is achievable, but not to be expected. You guys had a ridiculous run in the NH for a period in 2000s/2010s.

                                    Nope the fans and ABs demand for excellence is what keeps it. No excuses, and foster 'long season' excuses are a big help for decent into the pack. If he fell on his sword when they lost to arg, or Hansen did when didn't win the lions, then ABs would still be ahead. With hungrier, more innovative coaches

                                    See, I beg to differ. Some nations are blessed with the raw materials (SA), some nations have buckets of cash (England), some nations have structured their rugby to develop a high performance set up akin to NZ that identifies top players (Ireland). Then you have a team like France that has a bit from each category.

                                    It goes in cycles. The fact that the ABs are still more than just competitive having lost a cohort of players that are talked about as legends of NZ rugby (McCaw, Carter, Nonu, C. Smith, Kaino, Read, B.Smith) is simply outstanding. The next crop were always going to struggle when compared to those that went before them.

                                    I think the ABs post-2023 have the players and coaches (both provincial and national) to reclaim no.1 spot.

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                                      Impressed with Cameron Suafua , some really strong carries

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                                      @Steven-Harris said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                      Impressed with Cameron Suafua , some really strong carries

                                      Good in D, likes smashing people and hits rucks hard.

                                      What’s not to like!

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                                        The Sullivan bros are exciting to watch together. Come to the Canes Zarn. 😁

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          Classy touch from Suafoa. Still moving bodies at the breakdown too

                                          His style of play reminds me a little of Hemopo

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                                          @Duluth said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

                                          Classy touch from Suafoa. Still moving bodies at the breakdown too

                                          His style of play reminds me a little of Hemopo

                                          Moves really well too.

                                          Game has stepped up a couple of notches.

                                          I do like that Barnes isn’t so quick to blow his whistle at the breakdown.

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