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  • NepiaN Offline
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    Nepia
    wrote on last edited by
    #154

    I have no problem with the concept but don't like the draw. My two favourite teams are playing each other and there's only two other matches I would really support one team over the other (Highlanders v Crusaders, Blues v Brumbies).

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    • Dan54D Dan54

      @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2023:

      @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

      @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

      especially after this year poor turn out numbers wise

      It was a 2 year deal, Victoria Gov't money pays all the teams a certain amount, they do alright out of it.
      Stupid thing if I read correctly that Crusaders/Highlanders game is a late Friday game, wouldn't any sensible organisation have them early game to suit viewing time in NZ a little more?

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      wrote on last edited by
      #155

      @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

      Stupid thing if I read correctly that Crusaders/Highlanders game is a late Friday game, wouldn't any sensible organisation have them early game to suit viewing time in NZ a little more?

      It is the early game Friday. 6pm local.

      The later game is 8pm is Rebels Canes.

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      • Dan54D Dan54

        @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2023:

        @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

        @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

        especially after this year poor turn out numbers wise

        It was a 2 year deal, Victoria Gov't money pays all the teams a certain amount, they do alright out of it.
        Stupid thing if I read correctly that Crusaders/Highlanders game is a late Friday game, wouldn't any sensible organisation have them early game to suit viewing time in NZ a little more?

        KiwiwombleK Offline
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        Kiwiwomble
        wrote on last edited by
        #156

        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

        @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2023:

        @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

        @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

        especially after this year poor turn out numbers wise

        It was a 2 year deal, Victoria Gov't money pays all the teams a certain amount, they do alright out of it.
        Stupid thing if I read correctly that Crusaders/Highlanders game is a late Friday game, wouldn't any sensible organisation have them early game to suit viewing time in NZ a little more?

        depends what theyre trying to do...TV money then yeah, youre right....bums in seats?...they have to do this, they struggle i think to start with let alone if people had to take time off work

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

          Stupid thing if I read correctly that Crusaders/Highlanders game is a late Friday game, wouldn't any sensible organisation have them early game to suit viewing time in NZ a little more?

          It is the early game Friday. 6pm local.

          The later game is 8pm is Rebels Canes.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #157

          @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

          @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

          Stupid thing if I read correctly that Crusaders/Highlanders game is a late Friday game, wouldn't any sensible organisation have them early game to suit viewing time in NZ a little more?

          It is the early game Friday. 6pm local.

          The later game is 8pm is Rebels Canes.

          Just read it properly mate, and you are correct.

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

            Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

            yep thats dumb.

            should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

            https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

            Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

            Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

            BonesB Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #158

            @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

            Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

            yep thats dumb.

            should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

            https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

            Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

            Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

            Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

              Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

              yep thats dumb.

              should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

              https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

              Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

              Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

              Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

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              Dan54
              wrote on last edited by
              #159

              @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

              Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

              yep thats dumb.

              should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

              https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

              Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

              Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

              Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

              Well mate, I obviously wasn' going to the name the obvious ones!🤣 🤣

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

                Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

                yep thats dumb.

                should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

                https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

                Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

                Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

                Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

                KruseK Offline
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                Kruse
                wrote on last edited by
                #160

                @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

                Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

                yep thats dumb.

                should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

                https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

                Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

                Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

                Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

                Which city would, and HAS, the dollars.

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                • KruseK Kruse

                  @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

                  yep thats dumb.

                  should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

                  https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

                  Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

                  Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

                  Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

                  Which city would, and HAS, the dollars.

                  BonesB Offline
                  BonesB Offline
                  Bones
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #161

                  @Kruse said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

                  yep thats dumb.

                  should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

                  https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

                  Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

                  Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

                  Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

                  Which city would, and HAS, the dollars.

                  Timaru is a city right?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

                    yep thats dumb.

                    should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

                    https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

                    Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

                    Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

                    Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

                    KiwiwombleK Offline
                    KiwiwombleK Offline
                    Kiwiwomble
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #162

                    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

                    yep thats dumb.

                    should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

                    https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

                    Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

                    Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

                    Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

                    i know im bias but i always thought Forsyth Barr at the start of the season seemed like an obvious place for a super round, thousands of people looking for an excuse to party

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

                      yep thats dumb.

                      should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

                      https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

                      Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

                      Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

                      Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

                      i know im bias but i always thought Forsyth Barr at the start of the season seemed like an obvious place for a super round, thousands of people looking for an excuse to party

                      KiwiMurphK Online
                      KiwiMurphK Online
                      KiwiMurph
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #163

                      @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

                      yep thats dumb.

                      should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

                      https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

                      Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

                      Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

                      Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

                      i know im bias but i always thought Forsyth Barr at the start of the season seemed like an obvious place for a super round, thousands of people looking for an excuse to party

                      Lack of direct flights and accommodation for 11 teams might be a bit of an issue?

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        @Chris said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        Southern derby in Melbourne lmao what the fuck

                        yep thats dumb.

                        should have been two irrelevant teams like Canes v Landers

                        https://c.tenor.com/0_xK2fgngVEAAAAM/no-way.gif

                        Anyway, is it too late for them to also organise a super round in NZ?

                        Which city is going to pay the dollars to Sanzaar to hold it here? Think thats what it's about money, and having it early in Aus helps to give game a boost before NRL/AFL start.

                        Pretty sure Invercargill would. Maybe Palmerston North.

                        i know im bias but i always thought Forsyth Barr at the start of the season seemed like an obvious place for a super round, thousands of people looking for an excuse to party

                        Lack of direct flights and accommodation for 11 teams might be a bit of an issue?

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                        Kiwiwomble
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #164

                        @KiwiMurph never said id worked out all the details, they all come and play there eventually so should be do able, if it was the first round it would be closer to O week and would give any team that could come earlier the chance to get there and train

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          #165

                          209026ef-87ec-42ed-9115-22cb1458d870-image.png

                          new social media cover for the Super Rugby Page, i know theyre just their polos but almost all either black or blue

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            209026ef-87ec-42ed-9115-22cb1458d870-image.png

                            new social media cover for the Super Rugby Page, i know theyre just their polos but almost all either black or blue

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                            Crucial
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                            #166

                            @Kiwiwomble and stupidly the V formation blocks the team logos of half of them.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Kiwiwomble and stupidly the V formation blocks the team logos of half of them.

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                              Kiwiwomble
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                              #167

                              @Crucial yeah, some basic photoshop to put half the logos on the other side would have helped

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                                Bovidae
                                wrote on last edited by Bovidae
                                #168

                                The Highlanders had jumped the gun with their fixture announcement yesterday.

                                https://www.allblacks.com/news/dhl-super-rugby-pacific-2023-draw-announced/

                                Key features of the 2023 DHL Super Rugby Pacific draw:

                                · Each team plays 14 regular season matches
                                · Round 1 features traditional rivalry fixtures
                                · The Waratahs will host the Brumbies in the first ever fixture at the new Allianz Stadium in Sydney
                                · Round 2 is the Super Round in Melbourne
                                · All teams play all other teams in the competition
                                · All teams play three extra ‘rivalry’ games which create home and away mini-series
                                · All teams will have their byes between Rounds 7, 8 & 9
                                · Top eight teams reach the finals

                                DHL SUPER RUGBY PACIFIC AT A GLANCE

                                Season opener: Crusaders v Chiefs at Orangetheory Stadium, Christchurch.
                                Format: 12 teams: Moana Pasifika, Fijian Drua, Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Highlanders, Waratahs, Reds, Force, Brumbies, Rebels
                                14 regular season matches = 11 round-robin matches + 3 rivalry matches
                                One bye round per team (all byes in Rounds 7, 8 & 9)
                                Season Length: 18 weeks = 15-week regular season + three-week eight-team playoff series
                                Total Matches: 91
                                Super Round: Round 2, Friday-Sunday 3-5 March @ AAMI Park Melbourne.
                                Rivalry matches: Each team plays three teams twice (one at home match, one away match per rivalry)

                                · Blues: Rivalry opponents are the Hurricanes, Highlanders and Crusaders
                                · Chiefs: Rivalry opponents are the Crusaders, Hurricanes and Highlanders
                                · Crusaders: Rivalry opponents are the Blues, Chiefs and Moana Pasifika
                                · Highlanders: Rivalry opponents are the Blues, Force and Chiefs
                                · Hurricanes: Blues, Chiefs and Moana Pasifika
                                · Moana Pasifika: Hurricanes, Highlanders and Fijian Drua
                                · Fijian Drua: Moana Pasifika, Reds and Waratahs
                                · Force: Highlanders, Reds and Rebels
                                · Reds: Fijian Drua, Force and Brumbies
                                · Rebels: Force, Waratahs and Brumbies
                                · Waratahs: Fijian Drua, Rebels and Brumbies
                                · Brumbies: Reds, Rebels and Waratahs

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                                • DuluthD Offline
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                                  Duluth
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #169

                                  Not a fan of the rivalry matches

                                  The additional games are tougher for NZ teams and easier for the Aussie teams. The NZ teams that play MP twice also have an advantage over the other NZ sides

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                                    Bovidae
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #170

                                    As long as the rivalry matches are rotated each season, that's the best we can hope for. Not ideal though.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      The Highlanders had jumped the gun with their fixture announcement yesterday.

                                      https://www.allblacks.com/news/dhl-super-rugby-pacific-2023-draw-announced/

                                      Key features of the 2023 DHL Super Rugby Pacific draw:

                                      · Each team plays 14 regular season matches
                                      · Round 1 features traditional rivalry fixtures
                                      · The Waratahs will host the Brumbies in the first ever fixture at the new Allianz Stadium in Sydney
                                      · Round 2 is the Super Round in Melbourne
                                      · All teams play all other teams in the competition
                                      · All teams play three extra ‘rivalry’ games which create home and away mini-series
                                      · All teams will have their byes between Rounds 7, 8 & 9
                                      · Top eight teams reach the finals

                                      DHL SUPER RUGBY PACIFIC AT A GLANCE

                                      Season opener: Crusaders v Chiefs at Orangetheory Stadium, Christchurch.
                                      Format: 12 teams: Moana Pasifika, Fijian Drua, Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Highlanders, Waratahs, Reds, Force, Brumbies, Rebels
                                      14 regular season matches = 11 round-robin matches + 3 rivalry matches
                                      One bye round per team (all byes in Rounds 7, 8 & 9)
                                      Season Length: 18 weeks = 15-week regular season + three-week eight-team playoff series
                                      Total Matches: 91
                                      Super Round: Round 2, Friday-Sunday 3-5 March @ AAMI Park Melbourne.
                                      Rivalry matches: Each team plays three teams twice (one at home match, one away match per rivalry)

                                      · Blues: Rivalry opponents are the Hurricanes, Highlanders and Crusaders
                                      · Chiefs: Rivalry opponents are the Crusaders, Hurricanes and Highlanders
                                      · Crusaders: Rivalry opponents are the Blues, Chiefs and Moana Pasifika
                                      · Highlanders: Rivalry opponents are the Blues, Force and Chiefs
                                      · Hurricanes: Blues, Chiefs and Moana Pasifika
                                      · Moana Pasifika: Hurricanes, Highlanders and Fijian Drua
                                      · Fijian Drua: Moana Pasifika, Reds and Waratahs
                                      · Force: Highlanders, Reds and Rebels
                                      · Reds: Fijian Drua, Force and Brumbies
                                      · Rebels: Force, Waratahs and Brumbies
                                      · Waratahs: Fijian Drua, Rebels and Brumbies
                                      · Brumbies: Reds, Rebels and Waratahs

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                                      antipodean
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #171

                                      @Bovidae That's shit. Does the person who does the draw hate rugby?

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                                        taniwharugby
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #172

                                        Rivalries, very much forced medi BS.

                                        Rivalries are built through history, not like this.

                                        The fact the Blues/Chiefs are not in this "rivalry" thing when they share borders, kinda makes it an even dumber concept.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK Online
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                                          KiwiMurph
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #173

                                          Hurricanes get to play in Townsville in February.

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