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  • DuluthD Duluth

    I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

    Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

    It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

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    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

    Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

    It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

    I hope that true, as the cards will go back to being a major incentive to not transgress. The more cynical sides will pay.

    Similar outcome in the Blues game, Highlanders only looked like scoring while we had cards, rest of the time they were locked out.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

      I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

      Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

      It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

      I hope that true, as the cards will go back to being a major incentive to not transgress. The more cynical sides will pay.

      Similar outcome in the Blues game, Highlanders only looked like scoring while we had cards, rest of the time they were locked out.

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      @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

      @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

      I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

      Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

      It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

      I hope that true, as the cards will go back to being a major incentive to not transgress. The more cynical sides will pay.

      Similar outcome in the Blues game, Highlanders only looked like scoring while we had cards, rest of the time they were locked out.

      Yeah that 20mins was very different from the other hour

      During the cards 3-14

      57-6 when it was 15 v 15

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        @Winger said in Super Rugby 2023:

        When were the Crusaders last this low?

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        It’s round one, FFS.

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        @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

        @Winger said in Super Rugby 2023:

        When were the Crusaders last this low?

        c9e3913e-feaf-47be-8f6a-f3362022be60-image.png

        It’s round one, FFS

        I know it is. But it's just a comment about how strong the Crusaders have been for so long. That's all.

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        • WingerW Winger

          @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

          @Winger said in Super Rugby 2023:

          When were the Crusaders last this low?

          c9e3913e-feaf-47be-8f6a-f3362022be60-image.png

          It’s round one, FFS

          I know it is. But it's just a comment about how strong the Crusaders have been for so long. That's all.

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          @Winger I don’t think you can say they are weak(er) after one game. They often have slow starts and build into a season.

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

            I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

            Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

            It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

            I hope that true, as the cards will go back to being a major incentive to not transgress. The more cynical sides will pay.

            Similar outcome in the Blues game, Highlanders only looked like scoring while we had cards, rest of the time they were locked out.

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            @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

            I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

            Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

            It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

            I hope that true, as the cards will go back to being a major incentive to not transgress. The more cynical sides will pay.

            Similar outcome in the Blues game, Highlanders only looked like scoring while we had cards, rest of the time they were locked out.

            So yellow/reds cards may be more influential during a game? I definitely do not like the thought of that.

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              Fun opening weekend.

              Clear that the teams have spent the last few months working on their offence only.

              As good as the attack was across the weekend, the defence on the whole was horrific.

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              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                Fun opening weekend.

                Clear that the teams have spent the last few months working on their offence only.

                As good as the attack was across the weekend, the defence on the whole was horrific.

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                @MajorRage said in Super Rugby 2023:

                Clear that the teams have spent the last few months working on their offence only.

                Very much doubt that.

                Defences do take a little while to get to their best though. Training against yourself can only take you so far.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @MajorRage said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  Clear that the teams have spent the last few months working on their offence only.

                  Very much doubt that.

                  Defences do take a little while to get to their best though. Training against yourself can only take you so far.

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                  @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @MajorRage said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  Clear that the teams have spent the last few months working on their offence only.

                  Very much doubt that.

                  Defences do take a little while to get to their best though. Training against yourself can only take you so far.

                  Very much doubted that by writing that I expected anybody to take i literally!

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                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @MajorRage said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    Clear that the teams have spent the last few months working on their offence only.

                    Very much doubt that.

                    Defences do take a little while to get to their best though. Training against yourself can only take you so far.

                    Very much doubted that by writing that I expected anybody to take i literally!

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                    @MajorRage said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @MajorRage said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    Clear that the teams have spent the last few months working on their offence only.

                    Very much doubt that.

                    Defences do take a little while to get to their best though. Training against yourself can only take you so far.

                    Very much doubted that by writing that I expected anybody to take i literally!

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      How good

                      https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      How good

                      https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                      maybe we need to make one or two of them midfielders

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        How good

                        https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                        #506

                        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        How good

                        https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                        at least 3 of them are currently injured?

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                          How good

                          https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                          at least 3 of them are currently injured?

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                          @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                          @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                          How good

                          https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                          at least 3 of them are currently injured?

                          lol 3 of them barely played on the weekend, while a 4th may have been on the field, but he wasn't doing much

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                            @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                            How good

                            https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                            at least 3 of them are currently injured?

                            lol 3 of them barely played on the weekend, while a 4th may have been on the field, but he wasn't doing much

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                            @mariner4life When going over the five Aussie teams it appears that Force and Reds both have two Kiwi coaches, while on average they are fielding at least five Kiwi players. Fiji Drua also have a significant number. You could virtually field a team of Kiwi players from all the Aussie franchises.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                              @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                              How good

                              https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                              at least 3 of them are currently injured?

                              lol 3 of them barely played on the weekend, while a 4th may have been on the field, but he wasn't doing much

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                              @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                              @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                              @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                              How good

                              https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                              at least 3 of them are currently injured?

                              lol 3 of them barely played on the weekend, while a 4th may have been on the field, but he wasn't doing much

                              still got injured:
                              Ioane Linsfranc fracture
                              Grace (shoulder?) again...
                              Marino Mikaele Tu'u rib injury
                              I've probably missed someone..

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                              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                How good

                                https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                                at least 3 of them are currently injured?

                                lol 3 of them barely played on the weekend, while a 4th may have been on the field, but he wasn't doing much

                                still got injured:
                                Ioane Linsfranc fracture
                                Grace (shoulder?) again...
                                Marino Mikaele Tu'u rib injury
                                I've probably missed someone..

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                                  #511

                                  Really good that there were some try fests, this weekend!

                                  https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1630004414533758977

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                    @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                    How good

                                    https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                                    at least 3 of them are currently injured?

                                    lol 3 of them barely played on the weekend, while a 4th may have been on the field, but he wasn't doing much

                                    still got injured:
                                    Ioane Linsfranc fracture
                                    Grace (shoulder?) again...
                                    Marino Mikaele Tu'u rib injury
                                    I've probably missed someone..

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                                    SBW1
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #512

                                    @nostrildamus Jordie came off looking a little off, I would say he might be played sparingly against the Rebels.

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                                    • S SBW1

                                      @nostrildamus Jordie came off looking a little off, I would say he might be played sparingly against the Rebels.

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                                      @SBW1 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                      @nostrildamus Jordie came off looking a little off, I would say he might be played sparingly against the Rebels.

                                      No need to risk Jordie this early in the season. Riley Higgins is more than capable slotting in at 12, the only downside with Love also out atm is we are left with Morgan as a goal kicker, unless obviously Godfrey starts.

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        How good

                                        https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                                        at least 3 of them are currently injured?

                                        lol 3 of them barely played on the weekend, while a 4th may have been on the field, but he wasn't doing much

                                        still got injured:
                                        Ioane Linsfranc fracture
                                        Grace (shoulder?) again...
                                        Marino Mikaele Tu'u rib injury
                                        I've probably missed someone..

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                                        TimT Away
                                        Tim
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                                        #514

                                        @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        Ioane Linsfranc fracture

                                        Knee. Is in a brace.

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                                          Angus Bell is gone for the SRP season. A shame as he is good to watch.

                                          https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/02/27/he-was-silent-bell-exploring-radical-surgery-option-as-wallabies-prop-ruled-out-of-super-season-in-crushing-blow/

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