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  • NepiaN Nepia

    https://www.fanzo.com/en-au/bars-with-stan-sport?source=seo&channels=1443

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    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2023:

    https://www.fanzo.com/en-au/bars-with-stan-sport?source=seo&channels=1443

    absolutely useless

    apparently nothing north of the sunny coast

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2023:

      https://www.fanzo.com/en-au/bars-with-stan-sport?source=seo&channels=1443

      absolutely useless

      apparently nothing north of the sunny coast

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      @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

      @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2023:

      https://www.fanzo.com/en-au/bars-with-stan-sport?source=seo&channels=1443

      absolutely useless

      apparently nothing north of the sunny coast

      how the hell do you grow the game?

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        also checked channel 9....looks like they are only showing the Dura v Tahs game on sat...another things they could have negotiated better to raise the game would be more games free to air from the super round

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          also checked channel 9....looks like they are only showing the Dura v Tahs game on sat...another things they could have negotiated better to raise the game would be more games free to air from the super round

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          @Kiwiwomble NRL starts this weekend

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            https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35756485/super-rugby-pacific-r1-ball-play-improvement-2022

            According to Oval Insights, the average ball in play for Round 1 was 1:54 longer than that of the 2022 season. The mean for 2023 was 31.21 compared to 29.27 last year.
            
            The Crusaders-Chiefs game topped the Round 1 fixtures with a ball-in-play time of 38.15, while the Waratahs-Brumbies contest in Sydney was at the other end of the scale at 26.29. Still, that figure on Friday night in Sydney was a whopping 4:32 improvement on the lowest game from Round 1 in 2022.
            
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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35756485/super-rugby-pacific-r1-ball-play-improvement-2022

              According to Oval Insights, the average ball in play for Round 1 was 1:54 longer than that of the 2022 season. The mean for 2023 was 31.21 compared to 29.27 last year.
              
              The Crusaders-Chiefs game topped the Round 1 fixtures with a ball-in-play time of 38.15, while the Waratahs-Brumbies contest in Sydney was at the other end of the scale at 26.29. Still, that figure on Friday night in Sydney was a whopping 4:32 improvement on the lowest game from Round 1 in 2022.
              
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              @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

              https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35756485/super-rugby-pacific-r1-ball-play-improvement-2022

              According to Oval Insights, the average ball in play for Round 1 was 1:54 longer than that of the 2022 season. The mean for 2023 was 31.21 compared to 29.27 last year.
              
              The Crusaders-Chiefs game topped the Round 1 fixtures with a ball-in-play time of 38.15, while the Waratahs-Brumbies contest in Sydney was at the other end of the scale at 26.29. Still, that figure on Friday night in Sydney was a whopping 4:32 improvement on the lowest game from Round 1 in 2022.
              

              I agree with John Kirwan, BOK was the player of the weekend, 38 minutes of ball in play must be close to some sort of record, it clearly resulted in a fantastic game of footy.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35756485/super-rugby-pacific-r1-ball-play-improvement-2022

                According to Oval Insights, the average ball in play for Round 1 was 1:54 longer than that of the 2022 season. The mean for 2023 was 31.21 compared to 29.27 last year.
                
                The Crusaders-Chiefs game topped the Round 1 fixtures with a ball-in-play time of 38.15, while the Waratahs-Brumbies contest in Sydney was at the other end of the scale at 26.29. Still, that figure on Friday night in Sydney was a whopping 4:32 improvement on the lowest game from Round 1 in 2022.
                
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                @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

                https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35756485/super-rugby-pacific-r1-ball-play-improvement-2022

                According to Oval Insights, the average ball in play for Round 1 was 1:54 longer than that of the 2022 season. The mean for 2023 was 31.21 compared to 29.27 last year.
                
                The Crusaders-Chiefs game topped the Round 1 fixtures with a ball-in-play time of 38.15, while the Waratahs-Brumbies contest in Sydney was at the other end of the scale at 26.29. Still, that figure on Friday night in Sydney was a whopping 4:32 improvement on the lowest game from Round 1 in 2022.
                

                That highlights we still aren't getting consistency from the referees. Nic Berry's understanding of urgency is clearly vastly different from BOK's. I know which one I prefer.

                Even worse was Gardner stopping the game for 114 seconds so a prop could change one shoe for a lineout. What a fucking farce.

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35756485/super-rugby-pacific-r1-ball-play-improvement-2022

                  According to Oval Insights, the average ball in play for Round 1 was 1:54 longer than that of the 2022 season. The mean for 2023 was 31.21 compared to 29.27 last year.
                  
                  The Crusaders-Chiefs game topped the Round 1 fixtures with a ball-in-play time of 38.15, while the Waratahs-Brumbies contest in Sydney was at the other end of the scale at 26.29. Still, that figure on Friday night in Sydney was a whopping 4:32 improvement on the lowest game from Round 1 in 2022.
                  

                  That highlights we still aren't getting consistency from the referees. Nic Berry's understanding of urgency is clearly vastly different from BOK's. I know which one I prefer.

                  Even worse was Gardner stopping the game for 114 seconds so a prop could change one shoe for a lineout. What a fucking farce.

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                  @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35756485/super-rugby-pacific-r1-ball-play-improvement-2022

                  According to Oval Insights, the average ball in play for Round 1 was 1:54 longer than that of the 2022 season. The mean for 2023 was 31.21 compared to 29.27 last year.
                  
                  The Crusaders-Chiefs game topped the Round 1 fixtures with a ball-in-play time of 38.15, while the Waratahs-Brumbies contest in Sydney was at the other end of the scale at 26.29. Still, that figure on Friday night in Sydney was a whopping 4:32 improvement on the lowest game from Round 1 in 2022.
                  

                  That highlights we still aren't getting consistency from the referees. Nic Berry's understanding of urgency is clearly vastly different from BOK's. I know which one I prefer.

                  Even worse was Gardner stopping the game for 114 seconds so a prop could change one shoe for a lineout. What a fucking farce.

                  The Oz games were notably slower and, as you say, reffed at different urgency. Those stats back that up.
                  12 minutes difference between the Saders/Chiefs game and Brumbies/Waratahs. Did someone not get the memo?

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                    I haven't read the article.....but shouldn't the length of time a game takes also be tracked? Shirley that's another metric that should be considered in the overall picture.

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                    • ToddyT Toddy

                      I haven't read the article.....but shouldn't the length of time a game takes also be tracked? Shirley that's another metric that should be considered in the overall picture.

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                      @Toddy said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      I haven't read the article.....but shouldn't the length of time a game takes also be tracked? Shirley that's another metric that should be considered in the overall picture.

                      I am pretty sure that is a big factor in these current rules.

                      Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters

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                        I wonder if they factor in when time extends past the 40 minutes. Some half's have almost gone 50 minutes which would increase the ball in play and length of game.

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                          Part of this change is to reduce stoppage time. Stoppage is what causes the time blowouts.
                          The TMO one seems good. Clear and obvious. Reduce endless replays of the same picture. The yellow card being assessed for upgrade while the game continues. All good
                          Waiting while a player struggles to tie their shoelaces not so good.

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                            A quick check of the Fr vs Ir game - the game took a total of 94 minutes and 31 seconds. While the Crusaders vs Chiefs game took 87 minutes and 58 seconds.

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                            • ToddyT Toddy

                              A quick check of the Fr vs Ir game - the game took a total of 94 minutes and 31 seconds. While the Crusaders vs Chiefs game took 87 minutes and 58 seconds.

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                              @Toddy said in Super Rugby 2023:

                              A quick check of the Fr vs Ir game - the game took a total of 94 minutes and 31 seconds. While the Crusaders vs Chiefs game took 87 minutes and 58 seconds.

                              The Saders Chiefs game might’ve been an anomaly First game under the interpretations and both teams buying into it fully. Certainly seemed to be fast.

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Toddy said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                  I haven't read the article.....but shouldn't the length of time a game takes also be tracked? Shirley that's another metric that should be considered in the overall picture.

                                  I am pretty sure that is a big factor in these current rules.

                                  Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters

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                                  @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                  Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters

                                  Where are you watching the games that they aren't padded at either end by pre/post game guff? I don't think what you said is a thing really.

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                                    https://www.instagram.com/p/CpRsW_yvvYU/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                      Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters

                                      Where are you watching the games that they aren't padded at either end by pre/post game guff? I don't think what you said is a thing really.

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                                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                      @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                      Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters

                                      Where are you watching the games that they aren't padded at either end by pre/post game guff? I don't think what you said is a thing really.

                                      NPC schedules often go back to back and Super schedules have limited time between games so producers have to adjust on the fly.
                                      I get your point that they plan for it but there has to be some quick changes sometimes

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters

                                        Where are you watching the games that they aren't padded at either end by pre/post game guff? I don't think what you said is a thing really.

                                        NPC schedules often go back to back and Super schedules have limited time between games so producers have to adjust on the fly.
                                        I get your point that they plan for it but there has to be some quick changes sometimes

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                                        @Crucial there would have to be massive overrun.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Crucial there would have to be massive overrun.

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                                          @Bones probably about 10-15 minutes spare between the Saders and Rebels games

                                          Of that 10 looks to be already slotted in as the pre-match for the Rebels.

                                          I'm not saying that games are at threat of delay but that those minutes are planned to be used with pre/post game, team introduction stuff and the producers probably have to have long and short versions lined up.

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