Super Rugby 2023
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@Toddy said in Super Rugby 2023:
I haven't read the article.....but shouldn't the length of time a game takes also be tracked? Shirley that's another metric that should be considered in the overall picture.
I am pretty sure that is a big factor in these current rules.
Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters
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@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:
Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters
Where are you watching the games that they aren't padded at either end by pre/post game guff? I don't think what you said is a thing really.
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:
Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters
Where are you watching the games that they aren't padded at either end by pre/post game guff? I don't think what you said is a thing really.
NPC schedules often go back to back and Super schedules have limited time between games so producers have to adjust on the fly.
I get your point that they plan for it but there has to be some quick changes sometimes -
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:
Over-run games hurt TV schedules which piss of the broadcasters
Where are you watching the games that they aren't padded at either end by pre/post game guff? I don't think what you said is a thing really.
NPC schedules often go back to back and Super schedules have limited time between games so producers have to adjust on the fly.
I get your point that they plan for it but there has to be some quick changes sometimes -
@Bones probably about 10-15 minutes spare between the Saders and Rebels games
Of that 10 looks to be already slotted in as the pre-match for the Rebels.
I'm not saying that games are at threat of delay but that those minutes are planned to be used with pre/post game, team introduction stuff and the producers probably have to have long and short versions lined up.
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Found this from 2012 which highlights the areas of the game back then that were eating into ball in play time.
It has taken 10 years for the fish heads to act and it is funny how the findings are almost identicalhttps://www.theroar.com.au/2012/09/03/how-long-is-a-rugby-match-really/
Unfortunately the links to the details no longer work but they conclude that with a few applications rather than law changes the ball in play time could increase by 8 minutes a game.
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I think having all the games in Melbourne this weekend is a crap idea. I could understand it if the stadium was full, but it isn't and there is sod all atmosphere. Nor is this breaking new ground for Super Rugby. It's all unfair on local supporters of the franchises who are missing out on home games.
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It's week 2 and there is already an enormous amount weighing on tomorrow's Brumbies v Blues game
If that is lopsided this comp is cooked
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Found this from 2012 which highlights the areas of the game back then that were eating into ball in play time.
It has taken 10 years for the fish heads to act and it is funny how the findings are almost identicalhttps://www.theroar.com.au/2012/09/03/how-long-is-a-rugby-match-really/
Unfortunately the links to the details no longer work but they conclude that with a few applications rather than law changes the ball in play time could increase by 8 minutes a game.
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:
Found this from 2012 which highlights the areas of the game back then that were eating into ball in play time.
It has taken 10 years for the fish heads to act and it is funny how the findings are almost identicalhttps://www.theroar.com.au/2012/09/03/how-long-is-a-rugby-match-really/
Unfortunately the links to the details no longer work but they conclude that with a few applications rather than law changes the ball in play time could increase by 8 minutes a game.
Scrums. A chance for fatties to catch their breath is a blight on the game.
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Ollie Callan issued a Warning
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee reviewed the Red Card awarded to Ollie Callan of the Force for contravening Law 9.13: A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously, during a Super Rugby Pacific Match at the Weekend.
Callan has been issued with a Warning for his actions. A Warning may be issued by the SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee for foul play incidents that are very close to, but in their opinion do not meet the Red Card threshold.
The incident occurred in the 59th minute of the match between the Force and Reds at AAMI Park in Melbourne on 5 March 2023."Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative, Michael Tudori, the Foul Play Review Committee found the foul play did not breach the Red Card threshold."
"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a Warning as it was close to, but did not breach the Red Card threshold. The Foul Play Review Committee deemed that the significant mitigating factors, including the ball carrier's sudden and late change of direction and additional players being involved within the tackle, mitigated the sanction to a Warning."
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Ollie Callan issued a Warning
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee reviewed the Red Card awarded to Ollie Callan of the Force for contravening Law 9.13: A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously, during a Super Rugby Pacific Match at the Weekend.
Callan has been issued with a Warning for his actions. A Warning may be issued by the SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee for foul play incidents that are very close to, but in their opinion do not meet the Red Card threshold.
The incident occurred in the 59th minute of the match between the Force and Reds at AAMI Park in Melbourne on 5 March 2023."Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative, Michael Tudori, the Foul Play Review Committee found the foul play did not breach the Red Card threshold."
"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a Warning as it was close to, but did not breach the Red Card threshold. The Foul Play Review Committee deemed that the significant mitigating factors, including the ball carrier's sudden and late change of direction and additional players being involved within the tackle, mitigated the sanction to a Warning."
"The player is therefore free to resume playing.”@Stargazer If there's one thing I don't understand, it's this. They agree it doesn't meet the threshold, so what's the point of the warning?
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@Stargazer If there's one thing I don't understand, it's this. They agree it doesn't meet the threshold, so what's the point of the warning?
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@antipodean A warning is basically an off-field yellow card. After three yellow cards, a player gets an appointment with the judiciary. The same after two yellow cards and one warning, or one yellow and two warnings etc.
@Stargazer i think they could be more clears then and say "....and should have been a yellow card which is why this warning has been issued"
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It's the Chiefs' tournament to lose now.
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The next on that list should be the Lienert-Brown's. Anton would have played his 100th game if not for the injury (currently on 99 games).
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2023:
The next on that list should be the Lienert-Brown's. Anton would have played his 100th game if not for the injury (currently on 99 games).
Ioane's aren't far off either
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There were two yellow cards in the Force v Moana Pasifika game that were upgraded to a red (Siosifa Amone and Mike McKee, respectively). In both cases, the SANZAAR judiciary didn't agree and issued the players with a warning instead of a suspension because the foul play did not breach the Red Card threshold (they got the warning because it was close).
The same happened last week to Force's Ollie Callan's upgraded card.
So of the four yellow cards that were upgraded to a red card in the first three rounds, three were deemed not to breach the red card threshold (75%). I don't know who the TMO was in both games, but I hope this is not going to be the trend for the rest of the competition
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It's the Chiefs' tournament to lose now.
