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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Found this from 2012 which highlights the areas of the game back then that were eating into ball in play time.
    It has taken 10 years for the fish heads to act and it is funny how the findings are almost identical

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2012/09/03/how-long-is-a-rugby-match-really/

    Unfortunately the links to the details no longer work but they conclude that with a few applications rather than law changes the ball in play time could increase by 8 minutes a game.

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    • sparkyS Offline
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      I think having all the games in Melbourne this weekend is a crap idea. I could understand it if the stadium was full, but it isn't and there is sod all atmosphere. Nor is this breaking new ground for Super Rugby. It's all unfair on local supporters of the franchises who are missing out on home games.

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        It's week 2 and there is already an enormous amount weighing on tomorrow's Brumbies v Blues game

        If that is lopsided this comp is cooked

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          Found this from 2012 which highlights the areas of the game back then that were eating into ball in play time.
          It has taken 10 years for the fish heads to act and it is funny how the findings are almost identical

          https://www.theroar.com.au/2012/09/03/how-long-is-a-rugby-match-really/

          Unfortunately the links to the details no longer work but they conclude that with a few applications rather than law changes the ball in play time could increase by 8 minutes a game.

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          @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

          Found this from 2012 which highlights the areas of the game back then that were eating into ball in play time.
          It has taken 10 years for the fish heads to act and it is funny how the findings are almost identical

          https://www.theroar.com.au/2012/09/03/how-long-is-a-rugby-match-really/

          Unfortunately the links to the details no longer work but they conclude that with a few applications rather than law changes the ball in play time could increase by 8 minutes a game.

          Scrums. A chance for fatties to catch their breath is a blight on the game. 🎣

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            #581

            Ollie Callan issued a Warning

            The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee reviewed the Red Card awarded to Ollie Callan of the Force for contravening Law 9.13: A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously, during a Super Rugby Pacific Match at the Weekend.

            Callan has been issued with a Warning for his actions. A Warning may be issued by the SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee for foul play incidents that are very close to, but in their opinion do not meet the Red Card threshold.

            The incident occurred in the 59th minute of the match between the Force and Reds at AAMI Park in Melbourne on 5 March 2023.

            "Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative, Michael Tudori, the Foul Play Review Committee found the foul play did not breach the Red Card threshold."

            "With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a Warning as it was close to, but did not breach the Red Card threshold. The Foul Play Review Committee deemed that the significant mitigating factors, including the ball carrier's sudden and late change of direction and additional players being involved within the tackle, mitigated the sanction to a Warning."

            "The player is therefore free to resume playing.”

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              Ollie Callan issued a Warning

              The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee reviewed the Red Card awarded to Ollie Callan of the Force for contravening Law 9.13: A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously, during a Super Rugby Pacific Match at the Weekend.

              Callan has been issued with a Warning for his actions. A Warning may be issued by the SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee for foul play incidents that are very close to, but in their opinion do not meet the Red Card threshold.

              The incident occurred in the 59th minute of the match between the Force and Reds at AAMI Park in Melbourne on 5 March 2023.

              "Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative, Michael Tudori, the Foul Play Review Committee found the foul play did not breach the Red Card threshold."

              "With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a Warning as it was close to, but did not breach the Red Card threshold. The Foul Play Review Committee deemed that the significant mitigating factors, including the ball carrier's sudden and late change of direction and additional players being involved within the tackle, mitigated the sanction to a Warning."

              "The player is therefore free to resume playing.”

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              @Stargazer If there's one thing I don't understand, it's this. They agree it doesn't meet the threshold, so what's the point of the warning?

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @Stargazer If there's one thing I don't understand, it's this. They agree it doesn't meet the threshold, so what's the point of the warning?

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                #583

                @antipodean A warning is basically an off-field yellow card. After three yellow cards, a player gets an appointment with the judiciary. The same after two yellow cards and one warning, or one yellow and two warnings etc.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @antipodean A warning is basically an off-field yellow card. After three yellow cards, a player gets an appointment with the judiciary. The same after two yellow cards and one warning, or one yellow and two warnings etc.

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                  Kiwiwomble
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                  @Stargazer i think they could be more clears then and say "....and should have been a yellow card which is why this warning has been issued"

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                    https://www.instagram.com/p/CpjvGCcvDX6/

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                      The next on that list should be the Lienert-Brown's. Anton would have played his 100th game if not for the injury (currently on 99 games).

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                      • TimT Offline
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                        #587

                        It's the Chiefs' tournament to lose now.

                        https://i.imgur.com/dXOG24G.png

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          The next on that list should be the Lienert-Brown's. Anton would have played his 100th game if not for the injury (currently on 99 games).

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                          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2023:

                          The next on that list should be the Lienert-Brown's. Anton would have played his 100th game if not for the injury (currently on 99 games).

                          Ioane's aren't far off either

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                            There were two yellow cards in the Force v Moana Pasifika game that were upgraded to a red (Siosifa Amone and Mike McKee, respectively). In both cases, the SANZAAR judiciary didn't agree and issued the players with a warning instead of a suspension because the foul play did not breach the Red Card threshold (they got the warning because it was close).

                            The same happened last week to Force's Ollie Callan's upgraded card.

                            So of the four yellow cards that were upgraded to a red card in the first three rounds, three were deemed not to breach the red card threshold (75%). I don't know who the TMO was in both games, but I hope this is not going to be the trend for the rest of the competition

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                            • TimT Tim

                              It's the Chiefs' tournament to lose now.

                              https://i.imgur.com/dXOG24G.png

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                              @Tim good return on the highlanders

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Tim good return on the highlanders

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                                @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                @Tim good return on the highlanders

                                Still too low

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  It's the Chiefs' tournament to lose now.

                                  https://i.imgur.com/dXOG24G.png

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                                  @Tim

                                  Brumbies look a reasonable bet there.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                    @Tim good return on the highlanders

                                    Still too low

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                                    #593

                                    @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                    @Tim good return on the highlanders

                                    Still too low

                                    it true injuries on top of generally looking toothless suggest there is little to look forward too

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                                      #594

                                      obviously only one aspect but interesting its been such a change

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                                        🤔

                                        https://twitter.com/OptaJason/status/1638358763848736768

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          🤔

                                          https://twitter.com/OptaJason/status/1638358763848736768

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                                          Kiwiwomble
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                                          #596

                                          @Stargazer makes sense when you're getting some of the best delivery in the comp from smith and you have someone like TUJ outside you......

                                          what classifies a run? into contact? or even a small run to draw a defender count? i think this is why i like him at 15 more than 10, loves a run so give him a little more space and some broken play

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