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        @SBW1 said in All Blacks and NZR:

        Article is behind a paywall, would be interesting to see what this is about.

        Rumours about midfielders mostly. Nothing confirmed

        • LF to France
        • Aumua to Blues/Crusaders/France
        • Goodhue maybe to the Blues
        • JRK has interest from Blues/Crusaders/Highlanders
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        @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

        @SBW1 said in All Blacks and NZR:

        Article is behind a paywall, would be interesting to see what this is about.

        Rumours about midfielders mostly. Nothing confirmed

        • LF to France
        • Aumua to Blues/Crusaders/France
        • Goodhue maybe to the Blues
        • JRK has interest from Blues/Crusaders/Highlanders

        not surprising Crusaders looking into Levi, need more power in their backline, the current midfield has the physicality of a wet towel.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @Derpus said in Super Rugby 2023:

          @KiwiMurph SRP was never going to be bad for NZ audiences. Shame about the other half I guess. Convenient he's left that part to other experts who, presumably, have more nuance.

          There's a concerted media attack on the viability of Super Rugby in NZ, so of course this tweet is going to focus on NZ. It doesn't mean anyone is pretending Oz doesn't exist.

          You're just looking for something to be annoyed about.

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          @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2023:

          You're just looking for something to be annoyed about.

          Didn't need to read who you were responding to.

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            Just want to point out these sellouts and that Blues vs Crusaders game was Test match level. Comp is excellent.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              Just want to point out these sellouts and that Blues vs Crusaders game was Test match level. Comp is excellent.

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              @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

              Just want to point out these sellouts and that Blues vs Crusaders game was Test match level.

              Test match level? Hold up, isn't this the stick we repeatedly beat our SR coaches with to ensure there's no pathway to higher honors? How can we trust Razor to coach ABs if he's never coached at test level?

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                @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

                Just want to point out these sellouts and that Blues vs Crusaders game was Test match level.

                Test match level? Hold up, isn't this the stick we repeatedly beat our SR coaches with to ensure there's no pathway to higher honors? How can we trust Razor to coach ABs if he's never coached at test level?

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                @kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

                Just want to point out these sellouts and that Blues vs Crusaders game was Test match level.

                Test match level? Hold up, isn't this the stick we repeatedly beat our SR coaches with to ensure there's no pathway to higher honors? How can we trust Razor to coach ABs if he's never coached at test level?

                He got the job, you can let that go now.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    Just want to point out these sellouts and that Blues vs Crusaders game was Test match level.

                    Test match level? Hold up, isn't this the stick we repeatedly beat our SR coaches with to ensure there's no pathway to higher honors? How can we trust Razor to coach ABs if he's never coached at test level?

                    He got the job, you can let that go now.

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                    @Kirwan Haha was gonna say the same thing. It's like he's still angry or something.

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                      https://i.imgur.com/zivZ8zJ.png

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                        with two rounds to go even a poor predictor like me can have a crack at the Finals composition
                        Table.JPG

                        Chiefs 50 (Brumbies A, Force A) 50-60, predict 58
                        Crusaders 42 (Tahs H, Canes A) 42-52 predict 50
                        Brumbies 41 (Chiefs H, Rebels H) 41-51 predict 47
                        Blues 38 (Canes H, Highlanders H) 38-48 predict 46
                        Canes 37 (Blues A, Saders H) 37-47 predict 39

                        I would have a flutter on the current order staying the same.
                        Saders can reach top spot but even 2 losing BPs from Chiefs would probably be enough.
                        Brumbies could get to 50 if they beat the Chiefs but have a vastly inferior PD to the Saders
                        Blues could overtake Brumbies but need one BP added to two wins. Not impossible but that 3 try margin is hard to get at this stage of the season.

                        The fight for 7,8 is still on (With Tahs likely to stay 6th)
                        Reds in box seat although a Landers win this weekend will really make things interesting
                        Way too many variables in that end of the table but critical games in Highlanders v Reds and Drua v Reds (in Fiji)
                        Drua could pick up 9 points in their last 2 games
                        Force v Rebels (A) could cement a finals spot for the Force

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                          Hit of the round?

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                            What do people think of the Aumua move from Moana Pacific. I think it stinks. Defeats purpose of MP. Several teams tried, so not singling out Crusaders. I can't fathom Aumua, as he continues to change franchises. Now he will compete with Ennor, Havili, Goodhue and McLeod and I would rate the first 3 all ahead of him, and the 4th may overtake him soon. He is the line-break go-to for a poor team, and shines in that role. The skillset needed by Crusaders is a bit different. But, what do I know?

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                              What do people think of the Aumua move from Moana Pacific. I think it stinks. Defeats purpose of MP. Several teams tried, so not singling out Crusaders. I can't fathom Aumua, as he continues to change franchises. Now he will compete with Ennor, Havili, Goodhue and McLeod and I would rate the first 3 all ahead of him, and the 4th may overtake him soon. He is the line-break go-to for a poor team, and shines in that role. The skillset needed by Crusaders is a bit different. But, what do I know?

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                              @ARHS said in Super Rugby 2023:

                              What do people think of the Aumua move from Moana Pacific. I think it stinks. Defeats purpose of MP

                              He's a New Zealander, so why should he be constrained to MP?

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                                @ARHS said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                What do people think of the Aumua move from Moana Pacific. I think it stinks. Defeats purpose of MP

                                He's a New Zealander, so why should he be constrained to MP?

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                                @antipodean I agree, and they have plenty of other New Zealanders in their squad, who've now been capped by Samoa or Tonga.

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                                  how mant teams has he played for? im sure he was at the chiefs and blues?

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                                    Yes, the Crusaders would be his third NZ team. Aumua will be 29 later in the year so it's hardly a signing for the future.

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                                    • A ARHS

                                      What do people think of the Aumua move from Moana Pacific. I think it stinks. Defeats purpose of MP. Several teams tried, so not singling out Crusaders. I can't fathom Aumua, as he continues to change franchises. Now he will compete with Ennor, Havili, Goodhue and McLeod and I would rate the first 3 all ahead of him, and the 4th may overtake him soon. He is the line-break go-to for a poor team, and shines in that role. The skillset needed by Crusaders is a bit different. But, what do I know?

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                                      @ARHS said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                      What do people think of the Aumua move from Moana Pacific. I think it stinks. Defeats purpose of MP. Several teams tried, so not singling out Crusaders. I can't fathom Aumua, as he continues to change franchises. Now he will compete with Ennor, Havili, Goodhue and McLeod and I would rate the first 3 all ahead of him, and the 4th may overtake him soon. He is the line-break go-to for a poor team, and shines in that role. The skillset needed by Crusaders is a bit different. But, what do I know?

                                      Like @antipodean said, he is a NZer. Why shouldn't he be allowed to further his career by having a shot with a NZ franchise that will allow him to be considered for the ABs? If playing for MP locks you in to playing for a Pacific Island and no one else, surely that would discourage NZ eligible players from signing on with them. They are struggling for (decent) players now as it is. They need help from the NZ player pool.

                                      A way around that would be to allow players to be selected for the ABs straight from MP. But that comes with its own problems.

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                                        I don't see it as stinking, he says he really is aiming for ABs, and so maybe he shouldn't be playing for MP which is supposedly for build up for Island teams. h
                                        He could play for ABs while being in MP anyway, but see his point.

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                                          Can we put the Aumua/MP/Eligibiility thing to bed once and for all.

                                          “It’s certainly not what Moana Pasifika is designed for,” Mauger said.
                                          “But we’ve got to respect the aspirations of our players and Levi made it clear from the start that he wasn’t sure what he wanted to do.
                                          “He was honest and up front when he came into this environment that he wanted to play a season of Super Rugby and see where that took him.
                                          "It obviously took him pretty far and he got selected for the New Zealand XV.

                                          MP said at the start that they would select 20% that weren't fully committed to playing for Samoa/Tonga. Aumua was obviously one of those.

                                          On the subject of him going to the Crusaders, that does seem weird given their resources in that area and playing style.
                                          Chiefs and Canes are probably out with solid options in his position and maybe he isn't keen on going to another losing franchiseso the Landers are out as well.
                                          You'd think that Rugby wise the Blues would be the ideal placement. He could partner with Rieko to show his goods.
                                          Can only think that he (or his family) want to get out of Auckland.

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