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Blues 2023

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    Steven Harris
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    #165

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300720549/live-new-zealand-super-rugby-squad-announcements-for-2023

    Just been announced
    Very settled squad

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      Tim
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      #166

      Squad is loose forward heavy. Perhaps this indicates that their All Blacks will miss a few games in the World Cup year? Or there are injury concerns?

      Only two tall locks is a concern.

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        Squad is loose forward heavy. Perhaps this indicates that their All Blacks will miss a few games in the World Cup year? Or there are injury concerns?

        Only two tall locks is a concern.

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        @Tim said in Blues 2023:

        Squad is loose forward heavy. Perhaps this indicates that their All Blacks will miss a few games in the World Cup year?

        Only two tall locks is a concern.

        Are you sure you weren’t meant to write this on the Canes thread.

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        • TimT Tim

          Squad is loose forward heavy. Perhaps this indicates that their All Blacks will miss a few games in the World Cup year? Or there are injury concerns?

          Only two tall locks is a concern.

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          Duluth
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          #168

          @Tim said in Blues 2023:

          Only two tall locks is a concern.

          What's your cut off for tall? Darry is very tall. Darry and ?

          1.98, 1.97 etc is tall enough when you have good targets in the loose forwards too. Sotutu and Akira are very good lineout options and Papali'i is solid too

          Will be interesting to see who trains with the squad on dev contracts. Also does Robinson come back from his long injury layoff a little heavier

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            @Tim said in Blues 2023:

            Only two tall locks is a concern.

            What's your cut off for tall? Darry is very tall. Darry and ?

            1.98, 1.97 etc is tall enough when you have good targets in the loose forwards too. Sotutu and Akira are very good lineout options and Papali'i is solid too

            Will be interesting to see who trains with the squad on dev contracts. Also does Robinson come back from his long injury layoff a little heavier

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            #169

            @Duluth I would say 1.98 is minimum for a conventional lock. I thought Tuipulotu was 1.99 or 2.00?

            Looks like Tuipulotu, Darry, and Tucker are the only specialist locks, while Robinson is listed as a loose forward/lock. Both Tuipulotu and Darry have been injured frequently, so I hope we have some good WTG locks. Robinson is guaranteed to be unavailable for a significant part of the season, going on the trends from every year of his career so far.

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              #170

              Wondering if Beehre and Drake will be the WTG locks?

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                @Duluth I would say 1.98 is minimum for a conventional lock. I thought Tuipulotu was 1.99 or 2.00?

                Looks like Tuipulotu, Darry, and Tucker are the only specialist locks, while Robinson is listed as a loose forward/lock. Both Tuipulotu and Darry have been injured frequently, so I hope we have some good WTG locks. Robinson is guaranteed to be unavailable for a significant part of the season, going on the trends from every year of his career so far.

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                @Tim

                Tuipulotu is 1.98 apparently. Same as Robinson. Tucker 1.97

                Scott Barrett is 1.97 which isn’t an issue

                Then there’s wingspan.. a more meaningful stat would be height with arms above the head etc etc

                Power in the scrum might be more of an issue? Hard to know unless we get some Blues props posting here

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                • TimT Tim

                  Wondering if Beehre and Drake will be the WTG locks?

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                  @Tim said in Blues 2023:

                  Wondering if Beehre and Drake will be the WTG locks?

                  Beehre looks like the future. Maybe Hallam-Eames as the next best slightly older guy?

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                    @Tim

                    Tuipulotu is 1.98 apparently. Same as Robinson. Tucker 1.97

                    Scott Barrett is 1.97 which isn’t an issue

                    Then there’s wingspan.. a more meaningful stat would be height with arms above the head etc etc

                    Power in the scrum might be more of an issue? Hard to know unless we get some Blues props posting here

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                    #173

                    @Duluth said in Blues 2023:

                    Power in the scrum

                    Yeah that is probably the biggest concern. Seemed to be shown up big time last year. Maybe Tuipulotu and Tucker are the best combination there?

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Tim said in Blues 2023:

                      Wondering if Beehre and Drake will be the WTG locks?

                      Beehre looks like the future. Maybe Hallam-Eames as the next best slightly older guy?

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                      Tim
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                      #174

                      @Duluth There's also a question over when Tele'a will be available after his late season ACL injury, so maybe they will have another player in the squad until then?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @Duluth There's also a question over when Tele'a will be available after his late season ACL injury, so maybe they will have another player in the squad until then?

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                        #175

                        @Tim

                        Maybe that will be Che Clark? @Nogusta hinted he would be in the squad

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                          Would be good to see MP's team. There's a few loose forwards in the region who might get signed by them.

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                            Would be good to see MP's team. There's a few loose forwards in the region who might get signed by them.

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                            Daffy Jaffy
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                            #177

                            @Tim Someone on FB yesterday asked MP when the team will be announced. This was the reply -
                            our squad gets named in a few weeks. We definitely have some surprises for everyone from the Pacific Combine and can’t wait to introduce some of the gems we uncovered. Stay tuned! 👀

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                              Wondering if Beehre and Drake will be the WTG locks?

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                              Daffy Jaffy
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                              @Tim On the Blues Instagram about a week ago someone commented that they heard Beehre was off to Japan. That would be a shame if true.

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                                Tim
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                                #179

                                Possible WTG members:

                                Jordan Lay
                                Sione Ahio
                                Paea
                                Langi

                                Kauika-Petersen

                                Hallam-Eames
                                Behree
                                Drake
                                Craig

                                Clark
                                Ekuasi
                                Peita
                                Sititi
                                McGahan
                                Frans
                                Melvin
                                Matich

                                Milo-Harris

                                Jock McKenzie

                                Tuitupou
                                Murray

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Possible WTG members:

                                  Jordan Lay
                                  Sione Ahio
                                  Paea
                                  Langi

                                  Kauika-Petersen

                                  Hallam-Eames
                                  Behree
                                  Drake
                                  Craig

                                  Clark
                                  Ekuasi
                                  Peita
                                  Sititi
                                  McGahan
                                  Frans
                                  Melvin
                                  Matich

                                  Milo-Harris

                                  Jock McKenzie

                                  Tuitupou
                                  Murray

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                                  KiwiMurph
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                                  #180

                                  @Tim I believe Peita has a multi year deal in the US.

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                                    Possible WTG members:

                                    Jordan Lay
                                    Sione Ahio
                                    Paea
                                    Langi

                                    Kauika-Petersen

                                    Hallam-Eames
                                    Behree
                                    Drake
                                    Craig

                                    Clark
                                    Ekuasi
                                    Peita
                                    Sititi
                                    McGahan
                                    Frans
                                    Melvin
                                    Matich

                                    Milo-Harris

                                    Jock McKenzie

                                    Tuitupou
                                    Murray

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                                    Daffy Jaffy
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                                    #181

                                    @Tim I think Che Clark is a loose forward in xv's.

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                                      @Tim I think Che Clark is a loose forward in xv's.

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                                      Duluth
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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2023:

                                      I think Che Clark is a loose forward in xv's.

                                      That was my mistake.. I think I mixed him up with another 7’s player

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                                        Tim
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                                        #183

                                        I wonder which players from the region will end up at MP? Jordan Lay would be a good signing for them.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          I wonder which players from the region will end up at MP? Jordan Lay would be a good signing for them.

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                                          @Tim Apoua was with them this year, but was out injured all season for us, so unsure if he was signed for just 1 sesson.

                                          Jonah Mau'u could be an option in the loose, he was bloody good this season after a big off sesson, so potential is there if he was in a professional environment.

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