Blues 2023
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@Kirwan said in Blues 2023:
and the german has also been good
I assume he'll be getting another start soon as Sotutu will probably have an enforced AB break
It'll be interesting to see what they do with Robinson. With Choat & Segner they have some good options in the loosies. However there is a bit of a squeeze at lock with Darry gone.
The top locks would be Tuipulotu, Suafoa & Tucker. They are an injury away from needing Robinson at lock. It'd be worth getting him some time in the second row in the next 3 weeks, even if it's just from the bench
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@george33 said in Blues 2023:
@Duluth Robert Rush
What about him? In the 23 this week? Or are you suggesting him as lock cover?
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@Duluth 23 hasn't been sighted yet but his time is now out side taniela (injury) only squad member that hasn't played a part , but he did get in a situation with senior squad members preseason his last chance if selected or he will b moved on
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Talea involved and another couple big names in Squad think we all no who but let's move on
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Seems that Rangi is also getting frustrated with BBs kicking game.
@Crucial You mean the team's kicking game? Sullivan had the most egregious example of poor execution, just handing ball over in the Crusaders 22.
All season we've kicked more than other teams, it suits our large forward pack. But if you are going to do it they have to be good kicks, that's been the biggest problem IMO, shit kicks. Funaki was particuarly poor on this a few weeks ago.
When BB started running, we looked far more dangerous, so hopefully he can make this adjustment to kick slightly less (and maybe this could be done across the team).
On a positive note, in the last month BB's running game has looked very, very good.
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@Crucial You mean the team's kicking game? Sullivan had the most egregious example of poor execution, just handing ball over in the Crusaders 22.
All season we've kicked more than other teams, it suits our large forward pack. But if you are going to do it they have to be good kicks, that's been the biggest problem IMO, shit kicks. Funaki was particuarly poor on this a few weeks ago.
When BB started running, we looked far more dangerous, so hopefully he can make this adjustment to kick slightly less (and maybe this could be done across the team).
On a positive note, in the last month BB's running game has looked very, very good.
@Kirwan said in Blues 2023:
@Crucial You mean the team's kicking game? Sullivan had the most egregious example of poor execution, just handing ball over in the Crusaders 22.
All season we've kicked more than other teams, it suits our large forward pack. But if you are going to do it they have to be good kicks, that's been the biggest problem IMO, shit kicks. Funaki was particuarly poor on this a few weeks ago.
When BB started running, we looked far more dangerous, so hopefully he can make this adjustment to kick slightly less (and maybe this could be done across the team).
On a positive note, in the last month BB's running game has looked very, very good.
I get that you are throwing support behind BB but you also seem blind to the shit he is doing and the effect it is having.
The worst kick of the game in both decision and execution was his cross field bomb after finally getting possession 70 tackles into the game. " hey guys, ready for another 70? Here they come" -
@Kirwan said in Blues 2023:
@Crucial You mean the team's kicking game? Sullivan had the most egregious example of poor execution, just handing ball over in the Crusaders 22.
All season we've kicked more than other teams, it suits our large forward pack. But if you are going to do it they have to be good kicks, that's been the biggest problem IMO, shit kicks. Funaki was particuarly poor on this a few weeks ago.
When BB started running, we looked far more dangerous, so hopefully he can make this adjustment to kick slightly less (and maybe this could be done across the team).
On a positive note, in the last month BB's running game has looked very, very good.
I get that you are throwing support behind BB but you also seem blind to the shit he is doing and the effect it is having.
The worst kick of the game in both decision and execution was his cross field bomb after finally getting possession 70 tackles into the game. " hey guys, ready for another 70? Here they come" -
@Crucial and I get that you are supporting your Chiefs 10, but Leon was clearly upset with all the kickers not just BB. That's why I gave you an example of the worst kick of the night.
@Kirwan from the article
"But only if some key corrections are made, starting with the Reds in Brisbane on Friday, including getting their key All Blacks back into something resembling decent form. Star No 10 Beauden Barrett must be top of that list." -
@Kirwan from the article
"But only if some key corrections are made, starting with the Reds in Brisbane on Friday, including getting their key All Blacks back into something resembling decent form. Star No 10 Beauden Barrett must be top of that list."@nostrildamus It's cute you put so much stock in Marc Hinton's opinion, I'm more interested in Leon's.
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The dumb kicking (by everyone, which the article actually mentions) looked more like a game plan than individual players making decisions ... maybe Rangi needs to look in the mirror too instead of acting like the Hammettuer in the press?
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The dumb kicking (by everyone, which the article actually mentions) looked more like a game plan than individual players making decisions ... maybe Rangi needs to look in the mirror too instead of acting like the Hammettuer in the press?
@Nepia It's both. We have a game plan to kick (I agree, too much) but the kicks haven't been good too.
We look so much better when we run the ball, and with those loosies and mobile locks, we keep the ball pretty well. I guess it's a case of the Laws currently penalising playing too much, and we have a big pack and want to play in the opposition half.
Add in Clarke, who is the best player in the country at regathering a kick, and it makes sense.
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@Nepia It's both. We have a game plan to kick (I agree, too much) but the kicks haven't been good too.
We look so much better when we run the ball, and with those loosies and mobile locks, we keep the ball pretty well. I guess it's a case of the Laws currently penalising playing too much, and we have a big pack and want to play in the opposition half.
Add in Clarke, who is the best player in the country at regathering a kick, and it makes sense.
@Kirwan said in Blues 2023:
@Nepia It's both. We have a game plan to kick (I agree, too much) but the kicks haven't been good too.
We look so much better when we run the ball, and with those loosies and mobile locks, we keep the ball pretty well. I guess it's a case of the Laws currently penalising playing too much, and we have a big pack and want to play in the opposition half.
Add in Clarke, who is the best player in the country at regathering a kick, and it makes sense.
I think makes sense if it's working but I don't think it's been working for a few games, not just this one. Not sure whether they try something new or try to get more accurate though.
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@Kirwan said in Blues 2023:
@Nepia It's both. We have a game plan to kick (I agree, too much) but the kicks haven't been good too.
We look so much better when we run the ball, and with those loosies and mobile locks, we keep the ball pretty well. I guess it's a case of the Laws currently penalising playing too much, and we have a big pack and want to play in the opposition half.
Add in Clarke, who is the best player in the country at regathering a kick, and it makes sense.
I think makes sense if it's working but I don't think it's been working for a few games, not just this one. Not sure whether they try something new or try to get more accurate though.
@Nepia it's a tweak IMO. It feels like they want to kick as the first option, it was really noticable how much pressure on the Crusaders it released. I'd rather they kept going until the inevitable penalty (since attacking teams seem to be able to do whatever they like at the ruck at the moment) and kick then.
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The dumb kicking (by everyone, which the article actually mentions) looked more like a game plan than individual players making decisions ... maybe Rangi needs to look in the mirror too instead of acting like the Hammettuer in the press?
@Nepia said in Blues 2023:
The dumb kicking (by everyone, which the article actually mentions) looked more like a game plan than individual players making decisions ... maybe Rangi needs to look in the mirror too instead of acting like the Hammettuer in the press?
If Rangi is telling his 10 to do a 10 metre cross field bomb from his 22 after the team has been under the pump for ages and has hardly seen the ball then I really worry for the ABs next year
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@Nepia said in Blues 2023:
The dumb kicking (by everyone, which the article actually mentions) looked more like a game plan than individual players making decisions ... maybe Rangi needs to look in the mirror too instead of acting like the Hammettuer in the press?
If Rangi is telling his 10 to do a 10 metre cross field bomb from his 22 after the team has been under the pump for ages and has hardly seen the ball then I really worry for the ABs next year
@Crucial if you actually just listen to Leon instead of making up things to worry about, it'll save us all time responding to this sort of fluff.
He credited the Crusaders with disrupting the ruck, putting pressure on us to kick more than we wanted to, and with less accuracy than what we needed.
Look up the after match interview Leon gave that Hinton skimmed through.
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@Crucial if you actually just listen to Leon instead of making up things to worry about, it'll save us all time responding to this sort of fluff.
He credited the Crusaders with disrupting the ruck, putting pressure on us to kick more than we wanted to, and with less accuracy than what we needed.
Look up the after match interview Leon gave that Hinton skimmed through.
@Kirwan said in Blues 2023:
@Crucial if you actually just listen to Leon instead of making up things to worry about, it'll save us all time responding to this sort of fluff.
He credited the Crusaders with disrupting the ruck, putting pressure on us to kick more than we wanted to, and with less accuracy than what we needed.
Look up the after match interview Leon gave that Hinton skimmed through.
I understood very much what Rangi said. I was responding to a comment of @Nepia that maybe he should take some blame.
Hilarious that you keep diverting attention away from the dumbest piece of play in a weekend full of dumb plays. I watched the game in a room full of neutrals who all laughed and commented on how stupid it was. A couple of ex forwards were happy to declare that they would thump him for that.
It wasn't poor execution under pressure either, it was a deliberate action that put the team immediately back under pressure. The end cost of all that tackling early was a dull, tired attack for the rest of the game. -
@nostrildamus It's cute you put so much stock in Marc Hinton's opinion, I'm more interested in Leon's.
@Kirwan said in Blues 2023:
@nostrildamus It's cute you put so much stock in Marc Hinton's opinion, I'm more interested in Leon's.
It's cute how much you defend Beauden
