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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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    Scott Barrett is thought to be in serious doubt for the All Blacks' deciding third test against Ireland in Wellington on Saturday.

    Barrett may yet play through the pain but, if he is ruled out, Blues loose forward Akira Ioane would be promoted to start at blindside and Chiefs lock Tupou Vaa'i, who returned from Covid this week, is expected to come onto the bench to provide cover for Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick.

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    • TimT Tim

      Scott Barrett is thought to be in serious doubt for the All Blacks' deciding third test against Ireland in Wellington on Saturday.

      Barrett may yet play through the pain but, if he is ruled out, Blues loose forward Akira Ioane would be promoted to start at blindside and Chiefs lock Tupou Vaa'i, who returned from Covid this week, is expected to come onto the bench to provide cover for Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick.

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      @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      Scott Barrett is thought to be in serious doubt for the All Blacks' deciding third test against Ireland in Wellington on Saturday.

      Barrett may yet play through the pain but, if he is ruled out, Blues loose forward Akira Ioane would be promoted to start at blindside and Chiefs lock Tupou Vaa'i, who returned from Covid this week, is expected to come onto the bench to provide cover for Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick.

      That sounds sensible.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        @Davesofthunder said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        Just a reminder the Raeburn Shield is on the line again in this one having traded places between teams after Ireland bought it into the series.

        Also pumped to have got coverage into the UK Telegraph which is a great result.

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/07/15/raeburn-shield-ireland-defend-one-mans-labour-love-against-new/?utm_content=rugby&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1657866808

        For non-subscribers

        https://archive.ph/1q2xJ

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        NH newspapers: After beating the All Blacks in Dunedin, Ireland are now the lineal champions of men’s Test rugby union

        Boks: hold my ref.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          Because I remember some absolute shanks off the side of the boot from Nonu.

          Oh I remember the same from Carter 😉

          I have zero collection of Hamilton ever doing it though. BBFAPABSH

          FABSH was a gun!

          Although I do wish we had access to the Fern thread in the lead up to that Bok test match in 2006 that Scotty played. I think there were several meltdowns:

          Hamilton picked again; no power winger (Howlett was the other wing with Scotty); Mils at centre; Tuitupo had several detractors; Thorne was back in the side at blindside; Tialata starting; Toeava on the bench

          Ahhh the good old days when we on the Fern would whinge, moan and whinge some more - but we would still win 😎

          I miss winning

          I could stomach losing if we played well and were beaten by a better team.

          As always

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          @mariner4life yeah, nah. Lots of practice and it’s just a different kind of infuriating.

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            Are you thooooough?

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              Hopefully the ABs remain calm while handing out a lesson. Basically keep cool till after school…

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                Hopefully Ireland don't score too many tries tomorrow....

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                  Hopefully Ireland don't score too many tries tomorrow....

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                  @Derm-McCrum said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  Hopefully Ireland don't score too many tries tomorrow....

                  I've read that they won't but we just might not score as many.

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                    My gut feeling is this will be one hell of a test match and will boil down to who can handle the pressure best. AB's certainly have the better individual players in majority of the team bar, imo, Porter over Bower, POM over SB and Henshaw over Ioane (controversial I know). Sexton and Barrett are tied and can both turn a game completely.

                    AB's are playing on their turf and will be hurting big time, POM comments to Cane adding fuel to an already big fire. In Irelands favour, they don't have anything to lose. Losing a test series 2-1 in New Zealand is nothing to be ashamed of. So AB's have more pressure on their shoulders....but I think they will embrace it. They will try to get off the block quicker than Ireland this time and first 15-20min are crucial for both teams.

                    Barnes is a good ref but I feel he will suit AB's better and not ping them as much as previous two tests.

                    I'm sure it will be a great test match, best of the series and touring games on this weekend in fact. AB's to win it by individual brilliance and a tightening up of simple errors that's plagued them. To win by 15+ points after a tight game for 60min.

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                    • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                      My gut feeling is this will be one hell of a test match and will boil down to who can handle the pressure best. AB's certainly have the better individual players in majority of the team bar, imo, Porter over Bower, POM over SB and Henshaw over Ioane (controversial I know). Sexton and Barrett are tied and can both turn a game completely.

                      AB's are playing on their turf and will be hurting big time, POM comments to Cane adding fuel to an already big fire. In Irelands favour, they don't have anything to lose. Losing a test series 2-1 in New Zealand is nothing to be ashamed of. So AB's have more pressure on their shoulders....but I think they will embrace it. They will try to get off the block quicker than Ireland this time and first 15-20min are crucial for both teams.

                      Barnes is a good ref but I feel he will suit AB's better and not ping them as much as previous two tests.

                      I'm sure it will be a great test match, best of the series and touring games on this weekend in fact. AB's to win it by individual brilliance and a tightening up of simple errors that's plagued them. To win by 15+ points after a tight game for 60min.

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                      @The-Irishman If I was choosing a combined team Sexton would walk into my side. BB has flashes of brilliance but Sexton's kicking and intelligence are second to none.

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                        So the Black Caps have done their part today with a massive one run victory. Now to see what Foster and his charges can do...

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                          Probably the most sense I have heard from Marshall in a long time. Plus, the Irish female host is bloody hot.

                          Basically, Marshall is not happy with Foster and the gameplan. Mentions that BB struggles under pressure and going backwards.

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                            Probably the most sense I have heard from Marshall in a long time. Plus, the Irish female host is bloody hot.

                            Basically, Marshall is not happy with Foster and the gameplan. Mentions that BB struggles under pressure and going backwards.

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                            @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            Probably the most sense I have heard from Marshall in a long time. Plus, the Irish female host is bloody hot.

                            Basically, Marshall is not happy with Foster and the gameplan. Mentions that BB struggles under pressure and going backwards.

                            Foster has a game plan? I suppose rely on your player's individual brilliance and hope for a win is a sort of plan

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                              Watched the 2015 World Cup final last night on you tube ( with American commentary which was amusing )

                              What a team that was ,watching it really hits home how far we have slipped .

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                                Probably the most sense I have heard from Marshall in a long time. Plus, the Irish female host is bloody hot.

                                Basically, Marshall is not happy with Foster and the gameplan. Mentions that BB struggles under pressure and going backwards.

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                                @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                Probably the most sense I have heard from Marshall in a long time. Plus, the Irish female host is bloody hot.

                                Basically, Marshall is not happy with Foster and the gameplan. Mentions that BB struggles under pressure and going backwards.

                                That has always been the case with BB and with RM.
                                I still think that is a big part of the coaches struggling to find gameplans that work against teams that can pressure us

                                Edit: I think Marshall is talking shit when he says that getting rid of Foster would mean having to get rid of everyone from assistants to physios. Assistants, yes. A new coach would want to get his own, but they managers, physios, S&C etc would be able to stay. Some would move or get swapped out over time but practically there would be no harm in leaving them there for a bit.

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                                  We've had a shitload of rain recently but it's a beautiful day here today and it's supposed to stay nice too. Should be a great night for rugby. Though Westpac is a bit of a graveyard for the AB's.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    Are you thooooough?

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    Are you thooooough?

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                                    Cane is bloody tall! He should be playing lock.

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                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-scott-barrett-in-doubt-for-deciding-test-in-wellington/ZVWCROWCY3WZARTVKVUIK3QXF4/

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                                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                        Watched the 2015 World Cup final last night on you tube ( with American commentary which was amusing )

                                        What a team that was ,watching it really hits home how far we have slipped .

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                                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        Watched the 2015 World Cup final last night on you tube ( with American commentary which was amusing )

                                        What a team that was ,watching it really hits home how far we have slipped .

                                        It was only Australia…..

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          Probably the most sense I have heard from Marshall in a long time. Plus, the Irish female host is bloody hot.

                                          Basically, Marshall is not happy with Foster and the gameplan. Mentions that BB struggles under pressure and going backwards.

                                          That has always been the case with BB and with RM.
                                          I still think that is a big part of the coaches struggling to find gameplans that work against teams that can pressure us

                                          Edit: I think Marshall is talking shit when he says that getting rid of Foster would mean having to get rid of everyone from assistants to physios. Assistants, yes. A new coach would want to get his own, but they managers, physios, S&C etc would be able to stay. Some would move or get swapped out over time but practically there would be no harm in leaving them there for a bit.

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                                          @Crucial the role that I think a new head coach would want to have a big say on is the S&C coach. Because that is integral to how the team will play and must be aligned with the philosophies of the coach. S&C coaches have their own philosophies too and so there isn’t always a natural fit.

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