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All Blacks MOTM v Boks I

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  • BonesB Bones

    @canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

    @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

    @canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

    saffas were rushing up so fast. Very hard to spin the ball out when they were already up on our lin

    They've always done that. It's nothing new. We're talking about a 2 time nominee for world player of the year here right? The guy that's supposed to lead the team around the park and put it all into place. He can't even do the bread and butter at the moment.

    Our game is still trapped in 2019. We failed to realise how we were beaten then, the ABs and by extension SR teams have not evolved enough

    Agree wholeheartedly. That's also a vastly different conversation than proposing BB as a shining light.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

    @canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

    @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

    @canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

    saffas were rushing up so fast. Very hard to spin the ball out when they were already up on our lin

    They've always done that. It's nothing new. We're talking about a 2 time nominee for world player of the year here right? The guy that's supposed to lead the team around the park and put it all into place. He can't even do the bread and butter at the moment.

    Our game is still trapped in 2019. We failed to realise how we were beaten then, the ABs and by extension SR teams have not evolved enough

    Agree wholeheartedly. That's also a vastly different conversation than proposing BB as a shining light.

    I don't disagree he wasn't great. He's just one problem in a team full of problems. But our tactics are not helping

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

      @canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

      @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

      @canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

      saffas were rushing up so fast. Very hard to spin the ball out when they were already up on our lin

      They've always done that. It's nothing new. We're talking about a 2 time nominee for world player of the year here right? The guy that's supposed to lead the team around the park and put it all into place. He can't even do the bread and butter at the moment.

      Our game is still trapped in 2019. We failed to realise how we were beaten then, the ABs and by extension SR teams have not evolved enough

      Agree wholeheartedly. That's also a vastly different conversation than proposing BB as a shining light.

      I don't disagree he wasn't great. He's just one problem in a team full of problems. But our tactics are not helping

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      @canefan it's the motm thread.

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        Didn’t see the game but may as well go for Ardie and Caleb Clarke. Open for suggestions on a third option.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @canefan it's the motm thread.

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          @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

          @canefan it's the motm thread.

          The discontent is spilling over onto multiple threads. ABs misery is great business for the forum

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

            @canefan it's the motm thread.

            The discontent is spilling over onto multiple threads. ABs misery is great business for the forum

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            @canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

            @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

            @canefan it's the motm thread.

            The discontent is spilling over onto multiple threads. ABs misery is great business for the forum

            …..and talk back radio, I have TWO trips to the tip scheduled today. The whinging and teeth gnashing should be sensational.

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              Cane played with constant strength and application all game. Lineout was great so Scott Barrett and Whitelock also for me. Taukeiaho was great. Taavao was good. Christie added a lot off the bench as did Mounga. Our back 3 were pretty awful. Missing high balls and being bundled into touch or miskicking into touch. I wish Reece was there!

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              • ARHSA ARHS

                Cane played with constant strength and application all game. Lineout was great so Scott Barrett and Whitelock also for me. Taukeiaho was great. Taavao was good. Christie added a lot off the bench as did Mounga. Our back 3 were pretty awful. Missing high balls and being bundled into touch or miskicking into touch. I wish Reece was there!

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                @ARHS said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                Cane played with constant strength and application all game. Lineout was great so Scott Barrett and Whitelock also for me. Taukeiaho was great. Taavao was good. Christie added a lot off the bench as did Mounga. Our back 3 were pretty awful. Missing high balls and being bundled into touch or miskicking into touch. I wish Reece was there!

                Sorry, late to the thread and missed the game. Did the ABs win ?

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  Ardie, Samson, Christie

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                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                  Ardie, Samson, Christie

                  snap. I had real trouble finding a third one.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @ARHS said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                    Cane played with constant strength and application all game. Lineout was great so Scott Barrett and Whitelock also for me. Taukeiaho was great. Taavao was good. Christie added a lot off the bench as did Mounga. Our back 3 were pretty awful. Missing high balls and being bundled into touch or miskicking into touch. I wish Reece was there!

                    Sorry, late to the thread and missed the game. Did the ABs win ?

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                    @MN5 said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                    @ARHS said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                    Cane played with constant strength and application all game. Lineout was great so Scott Barrett and Whitelock also for me. Taukeiaho was great. Taavao was good. Christie added a lot off the bench as did Mounga. Our back 3 were pretty awful. Missing high balls and being bundled into touch or miskicking into touch. I wish Reece was there!

                    Sorry, late to the thread and missed the game. Did the ABs win ?

                    Best game of the year apparently.

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                      @ARHS said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                      Cane played with constant strength and application all game. Lineout was great so Scott Barrett and Whitelock also for me. Taukeiaho was great. Taavao was good. Christie added a lot off the bench as did Mounga. Our back 3 were pretty awful. Missing high balls and being bundled into touch or miskicking into touch. I wish Reece was there!

                      Sorry, late to the thread and missed the game. Did the ABs win ?

                      Best game of the year apparently.

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                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                      @ARHS said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                      Cane played with constant strength and application all game. Lineout was great so Scott Barrett and Whitelock also for me. Taukeiaho was great. Taavao was good. Christie added a lot off the bench as did Mounga. Our back 3 were pretty awful. Missing high balls and being bundled into touch or miskicking into touch. I wish Reece was there!

                      Sorry, late to the thread and missed the game. Did the ABs win ?

                      Best game of the year apparently.

                      Best performance wasn’t it ? Considering they did OK against Ireland first up I’m assuming they beat the Boks by 15-20. Sweet. Good old Foster !

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                        @ARHS said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                        Cane played with constant strength and application all game. Lineout was great so Scott Barrett and Whitelock also for me. Taukeiaho was great. Taavao was good. Christie added a lot off the bench as did Mounga. Our back 3 were pretty awful. Missing high balls and being bundled into touch or miskicking into touch. I wish Reece was there!

                        Sorry, late to the thread and missed the game. Did the ABs win ?

                        Best game of the year apparently.

                        Best performance wasn’t it ? Considering they did OK against Ireland first up I’m assuming they beat the Boks by 15-20. Sweet. Good old Foster !

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                        @MN5 said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                        @ARHS said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                        Cane played with constant strength and application all game. Lineout was great so Scott Barrett and Whitelock also for me. Taukeiaho was great. Taavao was good. Christie added a lot off the bench as did Mounga. Our back 3 were pretty awful. Missing high balls and being bundled into touch or miskicking into touch. I wish Reece was there!

                        Sorry, late to the thread and missed the game. Did the ABs win ?

                        Best game of the year apparently.

                        Best performance wasn’t it ? Considering they did OK against Ireland first up I’m assuming they beat the Boks by 15-20. Sweet. Good old Foster !

                        Well Foster praised the Boks and yes he said best AB team performance so A+ and A+ make A++

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                          BB is playing as well as he can with the ball (when we have it) that he gets.

                          He's not. I've lost count of the number of times he's held the ball and taken a tackle when all it needed was a quick flick on. It's frustrating as fuck. I expect a lot more from him than one awkward break per game. I don't think I'm expecting too much.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                          BB is playing as well as he can with the ball (when we have it) that he gets.

                          He's not. I've lost count of the number of times he's held the ball and taken a tackle when all it needed was a quick flick on. It's frustrating as fuck. I expect a lot more from him than one awkward break per game. I don't think I'm expecting too much.

                          You aren't expecting too much. 2022 BB is simply an average 10 in an average team.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                            BB is playing as well as he can with the ball (when we have it) that he gets.

                            He's not. I've lost count of the number of times he's held the ball and taken a tackle when all it needed was a quick flick on. It's frustrating as fuck. I expect a lot more from him than one awkward break per game. I don't think I'm expecting too much.

                            You aren't expecting too much. 2022 BB is simply an average 10 in an average team.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                            BB is playing as well as he can with the ball (when we have it) that he gets.

                            He's not. I've lost count of the number of times he's held the ball and taken a tackle when all it needed was a quick flick on. It's frustrating as fuck. I expect a lot more from him than one awkward break per game. I don't think I'm expecting too much.

                            You aren't expecting too much. 2022 BB is simply an average 10 in an average team.

                            Tell me I'm wrong but BB plays best when he plays like a 15. At 10 he doesn't seem to know what to with the ball unless it's a questionable kick, a hospital pass or (less and less these days) a linebreak.
                            But I do think his defence is underrated.

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                              I picked ST, SBarrett, and Clarke.

                              None of them stood out in the game

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                                Interesting to see the love for SB. Apart from the lineouts his stats aren't great. You know we're in trouble if Whitelock makes more metres with the ball than Barrett.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  Interesting to see the love for SB. Apart from the lineouts his stats aren't great. You know we're in trouble if Whitelock makes more metres with the ball than Barrett.

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                                  @Bovidae He and Whitelock improved a lot in the second half, but the game was mostly gone by then. All the tight five need to nail the core function of hitting rucks. The attacking patterns do not make it easy though.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                                    BB is playing as well as he can with the ball (when we have it) that he gets.

                                    He's not. I've lost count of the number of times he's held the ball and taken a tackle when all it needed was a quick flick on. It's frustrating as fuck. I expect a lot more from him than one awkward break per game. I don't think I'm expecting too much.

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                                    @Bones he only made 11 passes for the whole game. For a 1st 5 that is very low. He’s down on form but more concerning he looks down on confidence.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @Bones he only made 11 passes for the whole game. For a 1st 5 that is very low. He’s down on form but more concerning he looks down on confidence.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader oh hell yes, even looks like he's running in treacle at times. Those little pops in the tackle are his bread and butter,yet he's just not serving up the sandwiches.

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                                        Late to the party, but just finished watching it.

                                        ST - one of the few physical forwards
                                        CC - solid defensively, good on attack, reasonable workrate
                                        AS - energiser bunny. Still want to see him come on with 30 to go, but that needs a balanced loose forward trio

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Interesting to see the love for SB. Apart from the lineouts his stats aren't great. You know we're in trouble if Whitelock makes more metres with the ball than Barrett.

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks MOTM v Boks I:

                                          Interesting to see the love for SB. Apart from the lineouts his stats aren't great. You know we're in trouble if Whitelock makes more metres with the ball than Barrett.

                                          It's been the same every match this year, clearly there's something about the way he plods around that the Fern loves, that is never reflected in the stats.

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