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    Bangladesh tour starting next Tuesday at 430.
    Gonig to be live on Youtube. Rabbitholebd -

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/301012533/black-caps-versus-bangladesh-test-series-set-to-be-broadcast-via-youtube

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      A good summary of where the pace bowling stocks are at present. This backs up what has been discussed recently, but Hesson is more realistic than Wells.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/301013325/is-former-black-caps-coach-mike-hesson-right-to-be-worried-about-our-pace-bowling-stocks

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        I am not sure someone currently in the system is going to publicly say our options are rubbish even if they think it.

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          So basically in the not so distant future everything depends on Jamieson ? We already knew that.

          The rest are bog standard journeymen.

          One may get close to Southee/Boult/Wags level, certainly not three. We’ve had our terrific period, time for a slump.

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            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/133353120/melbourne-cricket-ground-set-for-dual-tests-in-202627-after-new-zealand-deal

            A boxing day test and a 4 test series! I'm stoked. Was there for the 2019 boxing day test so hopefully we can do slightly better next time around (although god knows what our bowling attack will look like so I'm not holding high hopes.

            But whatever happens, it's great to see the black caps continuing to get top tier test match ups.

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            • ChrisC Online
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              4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
              Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

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              • ChrisC Chris

                4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

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                @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

                I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                  4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                  Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

                  I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

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                  #410

                  @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                  @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                  4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                  Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

                  I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

                  Hasn't he wrapped himself in cotton wool for the last 2 years? He's barley played hasn't he?

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                    4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                    Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

                    I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

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                    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                    @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                    4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                    Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

                    I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

                    Yep He is the sort of bowler who could do well on Australian pitches, has he has the height to change his length on the good batting decks.

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                    • Windows97W Windows97

                      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                      @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                      4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                      Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

                      I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

                      Hasn't he wrapped himself in cotton wool for the last 2 years? He's barley played hasn't he?

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                      @Windows97 said in NZ Cricket:

                      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                      @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                      4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                      Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

                      I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

                      Hasn't he wrapped himself in cotton wool for the last 2 years? He's barely played hasn't her?

                      So a bit longer won’t be an issue then

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Windows97 said in NZ Cricket:

                        @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                        @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                        4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                        Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

                        I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

                        Hasn't he wrapped himself in cotton wool for the last 2 years? He's barely played hasn't her?

                        So a bit longer won’t be an issue then

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                        @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                        @Windows97 said in NZ Cricket:

                        @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                        @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                        4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
                        Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

                        I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

                        Hasn't he wrapped himself in cotton wool for the last 2 years? He's barely played hasn't her?

                        So a bit longer won’t be an issue then

                        Will he know a life outside of cotton wool?? 🙂 🙂

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                        • ChrisC Online
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                          Jamieson has had 2 stress fractures recently takes a long time to come back from.
                          But you can come back from it.

                          Pat Cummins had a few and has come through after surgery to be virtually injury free over the last 5 years.
                          Yet stress fractures ruined James Pattinsons career in the end.
                          Mitch Starc also had stress fracture problems a few years back.
                          It seems surgery with the steel wire in the spine seems to work the best,using the rest method normally means they fracture again.
                          Shipley is going through the same thing now.

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                            Well I'm glad there's hope for him, he made such an impact when he came onto the scene and it's been sad watching his injury woe's not help him build on that.

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                              Some interesting trivia in this article.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/301013219/totally-at-peace-with-it-central-districts-legend-greg-hay-content-with-never-cracking-black-caps

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                                Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

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                                  Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                  I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                  If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

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                                  @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                  Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                  I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                  If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                                  That period when Fleming retired and Rossco hadn’t debuted was simply awful. I distinctly remember the only test tons in the team belonging to McCullum and Vettori at 7/8 in the batting line up

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                    Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                    I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                    If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                                    That period when Fleming retired and Rossco hadn’t debuted was simply awful. I distinctly remember the only test tons in the team belonging to McCullum and Vettori at 7/8 in the batting line up

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                                    @MN5 Yeah, a real transition period for us between 2007-2012. Williamson was still in his nappies, Taylor hadn't reached his prime yet, Vettori was our best bat, couldn't find any opening bats, Jesse Ryder constantly getting up to trouble off the field, Chris Martin was our best seamer......I could go on haha.

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                                    • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                      @MN5 Yeah, a real transition period for us between 2007-2012. Williamson was still in his nappies, Taylor hadn't reached his prime yet, Vettori was our best bat, couldn't find any opening bats, Jesse Ryder constantly getting up to trouble off the field, Chris Martin was our best seamer......I could go on haha.

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                                      @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                      @MN5 Yeah, a real transition period for us between 2007-2012. Williamson was still in his nappies, Taylor hadn't reached his prime yet, Vettori was our best bat, couldn't find any opening bats, Jesse Ryder constantly getting up to trouble off the field, Chris Martin was our best seamer......I could go on haha.

                                      At his best he was pretty decent. But certainly a let down from the days of Bond leading the attack.

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                        @MN5 Yeah, a real transition period for us between 2007-2012. Williamson was still in his nappies, Taylor hadn't reached his prime yet, Vettori was our best bat, couldn't find any opening bats, Jesse Ryder constantly getting up to trouble off the field, Chris Martin was our best seamer......I could go on haha.

                                        At his best he was pretty decent. But certainly a let down from the days of Bond leading the attack.

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                                        @MN5 He was a bit of a one trick pony. He could swing the ball a mile into the right hander/away from the left hander which made him dangerous with the new ball. The problem for him was when the swing disappeared, where he became cannon fodder as he didn't have that extra pace to push guys back, and didn't develop any variations like an off or leg cutter, so he didn't offer a lot in-between the new balls.

                                        Yes, he served us relatively well, but he wouldn't have played anywhere near the amount of tests he did if he wasn't around during such a weak era for us.

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                                          Not sure where else to leave this.

                                          I'm a nerd, so did some measuring.

                                          EPOO is about 130x130
                                          Western Springs looks more like 200x200 (assuming it's not the speedway site)
                                          Colin Maiden looks more like 180x180

                                          So, much bigger than EPOO - and would be a fantastic cricket ground if they can develop it. It's a 600m walk to the Glen Innes train station
                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/auckland-test-cricket-venue-cricket-eyes-new-home-in-bid-to-regain-test-status/F3MSUL5BMNC4LMXR7I2V7GY6AI/

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/auckland-test-cricket-venue-cricket-eyes-new-home-in-bid-to-regain-test-status/F3MSUL5BMNC4LMXR7I2V7GY6AI/

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