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  • MN5M MN5

    @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

    4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
    Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

    I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

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    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

    @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

    4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
    Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

    I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

    Yep He is the sort of bowler who could do well on Australian pitches, has he has the height to change his length on the good batting decks.

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    • Windows97W Windows97

      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

      @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

      4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
      Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

      I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

      Hasn't he wrapped himself in cotton wool for the last 2 years? He's barley played hasn't he?

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      @Windows97 said in NZ Cricket:

      @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

      @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

      4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
      Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

      I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

      Hasn't he wrapped himself in cotton wool for the last 2 years? He's barely played hasn't her?

      So a bit longer won’t be an issue then

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Windows97 said in NZ Cricket:

        @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

        @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

        4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
        Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

        I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

        Hasn't he wrapped himself in cotton wool for the last 2 years? He's barely played hasn't her?

        So a bit longer won’t be an issue then

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        @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

        @Windows97 said in NZ Cricket:

        @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

        @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

        4 tests in Australia that could be embarrassing if we don't find a bowling attack that can compete.
        Although both teams will look a bit different in 2026/27

        I think we need to wrap Jamieson in cotton wool right now

        Hasn't he wrapped himself in cotton wool for the last 2 years? He's barely played hasn't her?

        So a bit longer won’t be an issue then

        Will he know a life outside of cotton wool?? 🙂 🙂

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          Jamieson has had 2 stress fractures recently takes a long time to come back from.
          But you can come back from it.

          Pat Cummins had a few and has come through after surgery to be virtually injury free over the last 5 years.
          Yet stress fractures ruined James Pattinsons career in the end.
          Mitch Starc also had stress fracture problems a few years back.
          It seems surgery with the steel wire in the spine seems to work the best,using the rest method normally means they fracture again.
          Shipley is going through the same thing now.

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            Well I'm glad there's hope for him, he made such an impact when he came onto the scene and it's been sad watching his injury woe's not help him build on that.

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              Some interesting trivia in this article.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/301013219/totally-at-peace-with-it-central-districts-legend-greg-hay-content-with-never-cracking-black-caps

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                Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

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                • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                  Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                  I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                  If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

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                  @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                  Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                  I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                  If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                  That period when Fleming retired and Rossco hadn’t debuted was simply awful. I distinctly remember the only test tons in the team belonging to McCullum and Vettori at 7/8 in the batting line up

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                    Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                    I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                    If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                    That period when Fleming retired and Rossco hadn’t debuted was simply awful. I distinctly remember the only test tons in the team belonging to McCullum and Vettori at 7/8 in the batting line up

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                    @MN5 Yeah, a real transition period for us between 2007-2012. Williamson was still in his nappies, Taylor hadn't reached his prime yet, Vettori was our best bat, couldn't find any opening bats, Jesse Ryder constantly getting up to trouble off the field, Chris Martin was our best seamer......I could go on haha.

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                    • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                      @MN5 Yeah, a real transition period for us between 2007-2012. Williamson was still in his nappies, Taylor hadn't reached his prime yet, Vettori was our best bat, couldn't find any opening bats, Jesse Ryder constantly getting up to trouble off the field, Chris Martin was our best seamer......I could go on haha.

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                      @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                      @MN5 Yeah, a real transition period for us between 2007-2012. Williamson was still in his nappies, Taylor hadn't reached his prime yet, Vettori was our best bat, couldn't find any opening bats, Jesse Ryder constantly getting up to trouble off the field, Chris Martin was our best seamer......I could go on haha.

                      At his best he was pretty decent. But certainly a let down from the days of Bond leading the attack.

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                        @MN5 Yeah, a real transition period for us between 2007-2012. Williamson was still in his nappies, Taylor hadn't reached his prime yet, Vettori was our best bat, couldn't find any opening bats, Jesse Ryder constantly getting up to trouble off the field, Chris Martin was our best seamer......I could go on haha.

                        At his best he was pretty decent. But certainly a let down from the days of Bond leading the attack.

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                        @MN5 He was a bit of a one trick pony. He could swing the ball a mile into the right hander/away from the left hander which made him dangerous with the new ball. The problem for him was when the swing disappeared, where he became cannon fodder as he didn't have that extra pace to push guys back, and didn't develop any variations like an off or leg cutter, so he didn't offer a lot in-between the new balls.

                        Yes, he served us relatively well, but he wouldn't have played anywhere near the amount of tests he did if he wasn't around during such a weak era for us.

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                          Not sure where else to leave this.

                          I'm a nerd, so did some measuring.

                          EPOO is about 130x130
                          Western Springs looks more like 200x200 (assuming it's not the speedway site)
                          Colin Maiden looks more like 180x180

                          So, much bigger than EPOO - and would be a fantastic cricket ground if they can develop it. It's a 600m walk to the Glen Innes train station
                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/auckland-test-cricket-venue-cricket-eyes-new-home-in-bid-to-regain-test-status/F3MSUL5BMNC4LMXR7I2V7GY6AI/

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/auckland-test-cricket-venue-cricket-eyes-new-home-in-bid-to-regain-test-status/F3MSUL5BMNC4LMXR7I2V7GY6AI/

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                            update: Bay Oval looks 180x180 (so similar to Colin Maiden); Hagley is bigger about 200x200 (measuring typically edge of grassed areas availalbe for seating)

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                              The first step is under way, with Auckland Cricket intent on moving away from Eden Park. Those plans include installing a Cravo training facility that features a retractable roof and greenhouse system to cultivate a variation of pitches at Colin Maiden.

                              Those types of facilities make a big difference. (Especially cool when you take the kids to the outdoor nets, and discover you're having a hit next to a bunch of Black Caps, or White Ferns, or an ND squad.)

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                              • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

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                                @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                                Sorry, don't get the reference.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  Not sure where else to leave this.

                                  I'm a nerd, so did some measuring.

                                  EPOO is about 130x130
                                  Western Springs looks more like 200x200 (assuming it's not the speedway site)
                                  Colin Maiden looks more like 180x180

                                  So, much bigger than EPOO - and would be a fantastic cricket ground if they can develop it. It's a 600m walk to the Glen Innes train station
                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/auckland-test-cricket-venue-cricket-eyes-new-home-in-bid-to-regain-test-status/F3MSUL5BMNC4LMXR7I2V7GY6AI/

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/auckland-test-cricket-venue-cricket-eyes-new-home-in-bid-to-regain-test-status/F3MSUL5BMNC4LMXR7I2V7GY6AI/

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                                  @nzzp would enable EP to become a rectangle instead of the half-baked solution it is currently.

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                    Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                    I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                    If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                                    Sorry, don't get the reference.

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                                    @booboo said in NZ Cricket:

                                    @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                    Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                    I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                    If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                                    Sorry, don't get the reference.

                                    Dermot Reeve was one of a long line of failed “next Bothams” if I remember rightly. ( with all due respect to decent players like Andrew Flintoff and Ben Stokes they still never found one )

                                    A fairly controversial figure off the field according to wiki.

                                    ( not as much as another FB in Chris Lewis though, crikey )

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @nzzp would enable EP to become a rectangle instead of the half-baked solution it is currently.

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                                      @antipodean said in NZ Cricket:

                                      @nzzp would enable EP to become a rectangle instead of the half-baked solution it is currently.

                                      I don't think it will. This is for the tests and a boutique ground. ODI and T20 will stay at the main oval.

                                      It should replace the outer oval, not the main ground

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @booboo said in NZ Cricket:

                                        @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                        Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                        I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                        If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                                        Sorry, don't get the reference.

                                        Dermot Reeve was one of a long line of failed “next Bothams” if I remember rightly. ( with all due respect to decent players like Andrew Flintoff and Ben Stokes they still never found one )

                                        A fairly controversial figure off the field according to wiki.

                                        ( not as much as another FB in Chris Lewis though, crikey )

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                                        @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                                        @booboo said in NZ Cricket:

                                        @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                        Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                        I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                        If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                                        Sorry, don't get the reference.

                                        Dermot Reeve was one of a long line of failed “next Bothams” if I remember rightly. ( with all due respect to decent players like Andrew Flintoff and Ben Stokes they still never found one )

                                        A fairly controversial figure off the field according to wiki.

                                        ( not as much as another FB in Chris Lewis though, crikey )

                                        Yeah, know who Reeve is/was. Not sure the relevance to Marshall, How, Flynn.

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                                          @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                                          @booboo said in NZ Cricket:

                                          @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                          Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                          I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                          If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                                          Sorry, don't get the reference.

                                          Dermot Reeve was one of a long line of failed “next Bothams” if I remember rightly. ( with all due respect to decent players like Andrew Flintoff and Ben Stokes they still never found one )

                                          A fairly controversial figure off the field according to wiki.

                                          ( not as much as another FB in Chris Lewis though, crikey )

                                          Yeah, know who Reeve is/was. Not sure the relevance to Marshall, How, Flynn.

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                                          @booboo said in NZ Cricket:

                                          @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                                          @booboo said in NZ Cricket:

                                          @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

                                          Fair to say that cokehead Dermot Reeve ruined his career. He was odds on to make the England tour in 2008 but from memory we went with Redmond, How, James Marshall and Flynn (not one test century between those 4!) I thought at the time he would have been picked ahead of Redmond and Marshall.

                                          I remember it being one of the great mysteries in domestic cricket as to why he lost his prime years from 2009-2013 and now we know why.

                                          If he hadn't been chucked to the dogs, he most likely would have been given a go in there, especially with some of the guys we had around the scene in thouse 4 years. We were a terrible outfit back then.

                                          Sorry, don't get the reference.

                                          Dermot Reeve was one of a long line of failed “next Bothams” if I remember rightly. ( with all due respect to decent players like Andrew Flintoff and Ben Stokes they still never found one )

                                          A fairly controversial figure off the field according to wiki.

                                          ( not as much as another FB in Chris Lewis though, crikey )

                                          Yeah, know who Reeve is/was. Not sure the relevance to Marshall, How, Flynn.

                                          Ok.

                                          Well as usual I can’t help in a meaningful way so you might have to go elsewhere.

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