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  • RapidoR Rapido

    This will still be highlight of the season for me, though. Sad as that is.

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    @Rapido said in NZ Cricket:

    This will still be highlight of the season for me, though. Sad as that is.

    Highlight over 2 tests vs Aussie in NZ?

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      To much delight, the Firebirds notched up another win against the Northern Brave last night to extend their lead at the top of the Super Smash table. They will only get stronger with the return of the ‘Beast’ Michael Bracewell who will want to push for BC selection again. He’s apparently up for selection against Auckland on Thursday.

      Hoping Otago notch up a win against the Cantabs today.

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      @Canes4life
      Matt Henry due back for a run this game or the next.
      Tom Latham and Kyle Jamieson due back as well for Canterbury.

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      • P Punch_up

        @African-Monkey That's probably a good thing, bc that Transvaal team of the 80s contained some of the most insufferable players in the history of cricket (Clive Rice, Ray Jennings) who viewed themselves as the best in world even they never played OZ and WI sides.

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        @Punch_up In fairness, they would have killed those Aussie sides of the 80s as they were at their weakest then.

        How they would have fares against the Windies of the 80s will always remain one of Cricket's great mysteries.

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        • African MonkeyA African Monkey

          @Punch_up In fairness, they would have killed those Aussie sides of the 80s as they were at their weakest then.

          How they would have fares against the Windies of the 80s will always remain one of Cricket's great mysteries.

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          @African-Monkey said in NZ Cricket:

          @Punch_up In fairness, they would have killed those Aussie sides of the 80s as they were at their weakest then.

          How they would have fares against the Windies of the 80s will always remain one of Cricket's great mysteries.

          Yeah it must be said Paddles might have struggled to get 15 wickets against a side captained by S Waugh or Ponting. He’d probably probably have to settle for 12 or so….

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @Canes4life
            Matt Henry due back for a run this game or the next.
            Tom Latham and Kyle Jamieson due back as well for Canterbury.

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            @Chris interesting, I’m hoping Welly also get Conway, Milne and Ravindra then.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Chris interesting, I’m hoping Welly also get Conway, Milne and Ravindra then.

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              @Canes4life said in NZ Cricket:

              @Chris interesting, I’m hoping Welly also get Conway, Milne and Ravindra then.

              They should get Ravindra back he was not selected for the 20/20s v Pakistan

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @Canes4life said in NZ Cricket:

                @Chris interesting, I’m hoping Welly also get Conway, Milne and Ravindra then.

                They should get Ravindra back he was not selected for the 20/20s v Pakistan

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                @Chris just saw the squad for tomorrow and no Conway or Ravindra. Milne and Bracewell in.

                Auckland get Allen, Chapman and Ferguson back.

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                  Rachin Ravindra wasn’t considered as a replacement for Williamson in the third game, as he begins a period of rest after being on the road with the BLACKCAPS since the beginning of August, a decision made by NZC in conjunction with Cricket Wellington.

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    Rachin Ravindra wasn’t considered as a replacement for Williamson in the third game, as he begins a period of rest after being on the road with the BLACKCAPS since the beginning of August, a decision made by NZC in conjunction with Cricket Wellington.

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                    @Rapido said in NZ Cricket:

                    Rachin Ravindra wasn’t considered as a replacement for Williamson in the third game, as he begins a period of rest after being on the road with the BLACKCAPS since the beginning of August, a decision made by NZC in conjunction with Cricket Wellington.

                    They mean on holiday touring, apart from the WC where games were spaced out at too big an intervals he has hardly played just toured.

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                      @Chris I am interested in your opinion on Sears. I have watched him a few times these past few weeks and to be honest I am not sure if he will have a long Black Cap career. I know he allegedly bowls mid 140s but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen. I haven't seen him get much movement and again maybe because of his action, he is not exactly accurate.

                      I hate being negative towards the kid, but he has been talked up a bit in the media and I haven't seen much so far to justify it. I would love to be wrong.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        @Chris I am interested in your opinion on Sears. I have watched him a few times these past few weeks and to be honest I am not sure if he will have a long Black Cap career. I know he allegedly bowls mid 140s but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen. I haven't seen him get much movement and again maybe because of his action, he is not exactly accurate.

                        I hate being negative towards the kid, but he has been talked up a bit in the media and I haven't seen much so far to justify it. I would love to be wrong.

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                        @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                        but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen

                        i said the same thing about Bumrah when he first arrived on the scene. All that explosive effort in the last few strides i was sure his shoulder was going to come apart.

                        31 tests and 132 wickets at under 32 22 he seems to be going okay

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                          but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen

                          i said the same thing about Bumrah when he first arrived on the scene. All that explosive effort in the last few strides i was sure his shoulder was going to come apart.

                          31 tests and 132 wickets at under 32 22 he seems to be going okay

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                          @mariner4life said in NZ Cricket:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                          but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen

                          i said the same thing about Bumrah when he first arrived on the scene. All that explosive effort in the last few strides i was sure his shoulder was going to come apart.

                          31 tests and 132 wickets at under 32 he seems to be going okay

                          Indians and pace bowling are an uneasy mix

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @mariner4life said in NZ Cricket:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                            but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen

                            i said the same thing about Bumrah when he first arrived on the scene. All that explosive effort in the last few strides i was sure his shoulder was going to come apart.

                            31 tests and 132 wickets at under 32 he seems to be going okay

                            Indians and pace bowling are an uneasy mix

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                            @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                            @mariner4life said in NZ Cricket:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                            but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen

                            i said the same thing about Bumrah when he first arrived on the scene. All that explosive effort in the last few strides i was sure his shoulder was going to come apart.

                            31 tests and 132 wickets at under 32 he seems to be going okay

                            Indians and pace bowling are were an uneasy mix

                            They have taken massive strides in getting their talent pipeline sorted. impressive - generated a high performance programme with the $$$ they have.

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                              @mariner4life said in NZ Cricket:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                              but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen

                              i said the same thing about Bumrah when he first arrived on the scene. All that explosive effort in the last few strides i was sure his shoulder was going to come apart.

                              31 tests and 132 wickets at under 32 he seems to be going okay

                              Indians and pace bowling are were an uneasy mix

                              They have taken massive strides in getting their talent pipeline sorted. impressive - generated a high performance programme with the $$$ they have.

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                              @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

                              @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                              @mariner4life said in NZ Cricket:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                              but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen

                              i said the same thing about Bumrah when he first arrived on the scene. All that explosive effort in the last few strides i was sure his shoulder was going to come apart.

                              31 tests and 132 wickets at under 32 he seems to be going okay

                              Indians and pace bowling are were an uneasy mix

                              They have taken massive strides in getting their talent pipeline sorted. impressive - generated a high performance programme with the $$$ they have.

                              Took them long enough

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                              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                @Chris I am interested in your opinion on Sears. I have watched him a few times these past few weeks and to be honest I am not sure if he will have a long Black Cap career. I know he allegedly bowls mid 140s but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen. I haven't seen him get much movement and again maybe because of his action, he is not exactly accurate.

                                I hate being negative towards the kid, but he has been talked up a bit in the media and I haven't seen much so far to justify it. I would love to be wrong.

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                                @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                                @Chris I am interested in your opinion on Sears. I have watched him a few times these past few weeks and to be honest I am not sure if he will have a long Black Cap career. I know he allegedly bowls mid 140s but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen. I haven't seen him get much movement and again maybe because of his action, he is not exactly accurate.

                                I hate being negative towards the kid, but he has been talked up a bit in the media and I haven't seen much so far to justify it. I would love to be wrong.

                                Hey Mate
                                I know what you mean the load up is all out of alignment and the follow through looks like a stress fracture waiting to happen.
                                He seems to get his pace from the long arm extension and snap through the wrist.
                                I have seen a few bowlers with not classical actions, some have had injuries and some have gone through their careers with very little.
                                I think he will need to stick to the short form game as that action will not sustain long spells of 20 overs a day in test cricket,
                                2 or 3 over spells would suit him.
                                He may be ok for one dayers if they can use him in a 4/3/3 split but I think his pace may drop dramatically in the last 3 over spell.
                                Definitely not an in to the wind bowler his frame couldn’t handle that and his pace would drop off by 10/15ks I reckon.
                                Refreshing to see a Kiwi bowling mid 140s though, I hope he stays fit but that action is a worry.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                                  @Chris I am interested in your opinion on Sears. I have watched him a few times these past few weeks and to be honest I am not sure if he will have a long Black Cap career. I know he allegedly bowls mid 140s but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen. I haven't seen him get much movement and again maybe because of his action, he is not exactly accurate.

                                  I hate being negative towards the kid, but he has been talked up a bit in the media and I haven't seen much so far to justify it. I would love to be wrong.

                                  Hey Mate
                                  I know what you mean the load up is all out of alignment and the follow through looks like a stress fracture waiting to happen.
                                  He seems to get his pace from the long arm extension and snap through the wrist.
                                  I have seen a few bowlers with not classical actions, some have had injuries and some have gone through their careers with very little.
                                  I think he will need to stick to the short form game as that action will not sustain long spells of 20 overs a day in test cricket,
                                  2 or 3 over spells would suit him.
                                  He may be ok for one dayers if they can use him in a 4/3/3 split but I think his pace may drop dramatically in the last 3 over spell.
                                  Definitely not an in to the wind bowler his frame couldn’t handle that and his pace would drop off by 10/15ks I reckon.
                                  Refreshing to see a Kiwi bowling mid 140s though, I hope he stays fit but that action is a worry.

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                                  @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                                  @Chris I am interested in your opinion on Sears. I have watched him a few times these past few weeks and to be honest I am not sure if he will have a long Black Cap career. I know he allegedly bowls mid 140s but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen. I haven't seen him get much movement and again maybe because of his action, he is not exactly accurate.

                                  I hate being negative towards the kid, but he has been talked up a bit in the media and I haven't seen much so far to justify it. I would love to be wrong.

                                  Hey Mate
                                  I know what you mean the load up is all out of alignment and the follow through looks like a stress fracture waiting to happen.
                                  He seems to get his pace from the long arm extension and snap through the wrist.
                                  I have seen a few bowlers with not classical actions, some have had injuries and some have gone through their careers with very little.
                                  I think he will need to stick to the short form game as that action will not sustain long spells of 20 overs a day in test cricket,
                                  2 or 3 over spells would suit him.
                                  He may be ok for one dayers if they can use him in a 4/3/3 split but I think his pace may drop dramatically in the last 3 over spell.
                                  Definitely not an in to the wind bowler his frame couldn’t handle that and his pace would drop off by 10/15ks I reckon.
                                  Refreshing to see a Kiwi bowling mid 140s though, I hope he stays fit but that action is a worry.

                                  It's funny you mentioned into the wind. I said it at the time, but in one of the games I watched him he was a good 10 -15k slower into the wind.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

                                    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                                    @mariner4life said in NZ Cricket:

                                    @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                                    but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen

                                    i said the same thing about Bumrah when he first arrived on the scene. All that explosive effort in the last few strides i was sure his shoulder was going to come apart.

                                    31 tests and 132 wickets at under 32 he seems to be going okay

                                    Indians and pace bowling are were an uneasy mix

                                    They have taken massive strides in getting their talent pipeline sorted. impressive - generated a high performance programme with the $$$ they have.

                                    Took them long enough

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                                    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                                    @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

                                    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket:

                                    @mariner4life said in NZ Cricket:

                                    @Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:

                                    but jeez it looks like it takes one hell of an effort for him. His action appears awkward, like an action that is an injury waiting to happen

                                    i said the same thing about Bumrah when he first arrived on the scene. All that explosive effort in the last few strides i was sure his shoulder was going to come apart.

                                    31 tests and 132 wickets at under 32 he seems to be going okay

                                    Indians and pace bowling are were an uneasy mix

                                    They have taken massive strides in getting their talent pipeline sorted. impressive - generated a high performance programme with the $$$ they have.

                                    Took them long enough

                                    Did it though? When did money really hit the BCCI - I thought it was post-John Wright era ... kinda getting into IPL. So 10 years or so?

                                    OK I ooked it up. More like 15. 10 years to start producing top Test players seems reasonable, considering the history of pace bowlers in India hasn't been strong.

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                                      I reckon he will be another Milne, he'll keep getting picked because he can bowl "fast" but he won't actually be that good.

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                                        Have any of you guys watched the NZC videos on youtube the last few years?

                                        They are terribly edited, sometimes skipping 100 runs forward, or 3 wickets forward.
                                        Generated by a (terrible) algorithim.
                                        Usually 75% of the comments below the video are complaining about how terrible they are.
                                        I've even read a NZC video, where in the video description it was an explanation that the video was generated by an algorithm ( I assume a passive aggressive request to stop complaining).

                                        This was after they switched from Sky to Spark.

                                        The ironic thing was the (longer, 20ish minutes) highlights packages inside the Spark app were way better than the paint-by-numbers packages that Sky used to put out on their satelite channel.

                                        But what ever the disconnect between the broadcaster highlights and the NZC youtube highlights was, the chasm happened after they left sky.

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                                          I post the above, because I was was just looking at some youtube viewing numbers on the NZC channel.

                                          This is from the last major tour by India, 3 years ago in 2020, (so when Sky was still the broadcaster).

                                          1st test:
                                          Day 1: 4 million views
                                          Day 2: 2.1m
                                          Day 3: 2.3m
                                          Day 4: 0.4m

                                          2nd test:
                                          Day 1: 0.7 million views
                                          Day 2: 4.9 million views
                                          Day 3: 1.1 million views

                                          T20 series:
                                          Match 1. 6.2 million views
                                          Match 2. 2.6 million views
                                          Match 3. 91 million views
                                          Match 4, 41 million views
                                          Match 5, 17 million

                                          ODIs:
                                          1st match: 10 million views
                                          2nd match: 17 million
                                          3rd match: 2 million

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