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    Jesus christ, that's idiotic

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      If Facebook comments are any guideline, Smithy seems to have close to univeral support for his one liner.

      As for My Dear Old Thing. Getting hit by a bus may have impacted his future cricketing trajectory, or the decline might have been due regardless. He did nearly end up a Test cricketer though...

      Blofeld was a very good schoolboy cricketer who captained Eton as a wicketkeeper-batsman, and while at school scored a hundred at Lord's against Combined Services. But in his final year at Eton he was knocked off his bicycle by a bus and suffered major head injuries. His health eventually recovered; less so his cricket. At Cambridge he did win his Blue in 1959 ("as an opening batsman of sorts… the worst Blue awarded since the war", he admitted) but talk of a first-class career had disappeared.

      ... [Now a Guardian correspondent on the 1963/64 tour of India]

      Even though both wicketkeepers were included in the final XI, there was still a real danger that England would be short. While the need for a replacement was obvious, given Barrington's injury, there was no chance of anyone arriving from England in time for the game.

      At a press conference on the eve of the Test, David Clark, the tour manager, told the media, only half-jokingly, that the last two fit members of the ensemble were himself and Blofeld. Clark, who had captained Kent between 1949 and 1951, admitted his last innings had been in a fathers' match in Oxford the previous summer.

      "It will be a tragedy [if needed]," shrugged Clark. "I am slow, unfit and a poor cricketer. But we have got to raise an England side."

      Blofeld, with a first-class appearance in 1959 and still only 24, was the only realistic option.

      As the writers headed off, Clark took Blofeld to one side and suggested, only half-jokingly again, that he get to bed early. "With insufferable arrogance and, I hope, a smile, I replied I would certainly play if needed, but if I scored 50 or upwards in either innings I was damned if I would stand down for the Calcutta Test," Blofeld recalled. "I suspect that David's reply was unprintable." While outwardly flippant, Blofeld hardly slept a wink, as the enormity of the situation dawned on him.

      Full read: 1964: Desperate times... send for Blowers

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      @Donsteppa said in NZ Cricket:

      If Facebook comments are any guideline, Smithy seems to have close to univeral support for his one liner.

      I am sure Smith's comments are mainly referring to one "commentator", and I use that term loosely as he is appalling with his lack of knowledge.

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        It is more than just one. One of the female comentators said in one stint that Michael Rae left Otago due to a lack of opportunities. That he has since thrived in Canterbury. He was our opening bowler and left after his partber got a job in Christchurch.

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          This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
          The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
            The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.

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            @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

            This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
            The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.

            We have never been famous for our U19 sides... I think Reddy and the skipper Jackson look handy prospects.

            The commentators pointed out last night that only a couple of players from each side generally have international careers, and only half domestic careers.

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              @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

              This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
              The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.

              We have never been famous for our U19 sides... I think Reddy and the skipper Jackson look handy prospects.

              The commentators pointed out last night that only a couple of players from each side generally have international careers, and only half domestic careers.

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              @frugby said in NZ Cricket:

              @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

              This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
              The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.

              We have never been famous for our U19 sides... I think Reddy and the skipper Jackson look handy prospects.

              The commentators pointed out last night that only a couple of players from each side generally have international careers, and only half domestic careers.

              Maybe but really if the coaching is producing those batting techniques the development is poor.
              I was looking at the batting set ups and alignment when playing shots and it wasn’t good and in defence they were just pressing forward hoping they are playing down the correct line.
              Reddy got done by a straight one just played down the wrong line.

              If it is as you say and the u/19s produce hardly any first class cricketers let alone internationals.
              Where are they coming from ?
              Is NZ identifying the wrong talent ? Because that is supposed to be the pathway.
              Are you saying most of the u/19 players disappear after the program finishes.
              What is the point of having under age teams then ?

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                Probably the two best U19 sides we have had in recent history are unsurprisingly 2008 and 2010. Where the majoriry of the squads top players are mainstays in the national side. 2008 had eight future black caps, with 2010 had nine. Some cross over in the squads. In 2008 we lost the semi via D/L. In 2010 we finished 7th. That was the golden generation and we still didn't dominate. Semis was a decent resuly though

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                  The head coach is Jonny Bassett-Graham with assistance from Paul Wiseman and Graeme Aldridge. I've never heard of Bassett-Graham but he played for Auckland. Based on that group he must also be the batting coach.

                  Reddy scored big against Nepal and is only a Y13 this year.

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                    To be honest I would expect everyone to score big v Nepal for NZ not exactly a power force in Cricket
                    They had no idea V Afghanistan or Pakistan..

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                      The Wellington Blaze win their 8th Women's Super Smash title after beating the Central Hinds by 1 run in a low score thriller at Eden Park.

                      Aces play the Kings shortly in the Men's final at Eden Park.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        The head coach is Jonny Bassett-Graham with assistance from Paul Wiseman and Graeme Aldridge. I've never heard of Bassett-Graham but he played for Auckland. Based on that group he must also be the batting coach.

                        Reddy scored big against Nepal and is only a Y13 this year.

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                        @Bovidae Jonny Bassett-Graham would have barely played for Auckland, don't remember him playing at that level. He was a stalwart at the Suburbs New Lynn club which has produced Martin Guptill, Jeet Raval, Ajaz Patel, Reece Young, Jimmy Neesham, Sean Solia to name a few of late.

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                          It's in topic.

                          Because I'm pretty sure Basset-Graham was an NZ u19 player back in the 00s. But would have been a fringe provincial player at senior level. Probably sub-10 games.

                          Edit. No, I'm wrong.
                          1 FC game, but no record of him playing for NZ U19s.

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                            Rain washes out the final of the Super Smash mens. Auckland win after being under the pump - well done lads. Suck way to finish, but you qualify top, you get the breaks.

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                              To be honest I would expect everyone to score big v Nepal for NZ not exactly a power force in Cricket
                              They had no idea V Afghanistan or Pakistan..

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                              @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                              To be honest I would expect everyone to score big v Nepal for NZ not exactly a power force in Cricket
                              They had no idea V Afghanistan or Pakistan..

                              The are good enough us apparently:

                              https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-under-19-world-cup-2015-16-949357/nepal-under-19s-vs-new-zealand-under-19s-6th-match-group-d-949709/full-scorecard

                              That team has five players who have played for the Black Caps and four other who have had reasonable domestic careers (two not so much).

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                                @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                                To be honest I would expect everyone to score big v Nepal for NZ not exactly a power force in Cricket
                                They had no idea V Afghanistan or Pakistan..

                                The are good enough us apparently:

                                https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-under-19-world-cup-2015-16-949357/nepal-under-19s-vs-new-zealand-under-19s-6th-match-group-d-949709/full-scorecard

                                That team has five players who have played for the Black Caps and four other who have had reasonable domestic careers (two not so much).

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                                @LABCAT said in NZ Cricket:

                                @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                                To be honest I would expect everyone to score big v Nepal for NZ not exactly a power force in Cricket
                                They had no idea V Afghanistan or Pakistan..

                                The are good enough us apparently:

                                https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-under-19-world-cup-2015-16-949357/nepal-under-19s-vs-new-zealand-under-19s-6th-match-group-d-949709/full-scorecard

                                That team has five players who have played for the Black Caps and four other who have had reasonable domestic careers (two not so much).

                                Says more about the quality of the NZ u/19 teams
                                Nepal do not play in any tier 1 competions not a good look for NZ under age teams.
                                And if that is the criteria NZ under age teams are judged by we are doing well as we are as good as Nepal at u/19 level it is worse than I thought.

                                If Australia lost to Nepal at that level there would a major shake up of the system as there has been before.

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                                  There are plenty of development issues to work on in NZ Cricket. It’d take me ages to list them on the phone. And not that I can do much to help.

                                  That said, an Australian opener has just carried his bat, yet the other 10 couldn’t stay with him against a team that hasn’t beaten them at home since 1997. The joys of cricket 😊

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                                    We also lost to Nepal in the 2005/06 tournament.

                                    https://archive.nzc.nz/Scorecards/84/84997.html

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                                    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                      There are plenty of development issues to work on in NZ Cricket. It’d take me ages to list them on the phone. And not that I can do much to help.

                                      That said, an Australian opener has just carried his bat, yet the other 10 couldn’t stay with him against a team that hasn’t beaten them at home since 1997. The joys of cricket 😊

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                                      @Donsteppa said in NZ Cricket:

                                      There are plenty of development issues to work on in NZ Cricket. It’d take me ages to list them on the phone. And not that I can do much to help.

                                      That said, an Australian opener has just carried his bat, yet the other 10 couldn’t stay with him against a team that hasn’t beaten them at home since 1997. The joys of cricket 😊

                                      I am sure their is a bounce back due soon.

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                                        Our timing is lousy. Especially with the Hobart 2011 parallels this time working against us.

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                                          @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                                          This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
                                          The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.

                                          We have never been famous for our U19 sides... I think Reddy and the skipper Jackson look handy prospects.

                                          The commentators pointed out last night that only a couple of players from each side generally have international careers, and only half domestic careers.

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                                          @frugby said in NZ Cricket:

                                          @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

                                          This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
                                          The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.

                                          We have never been famous for our U19 sides... I think Reddy and the skipper Jackson look handy prospects.

                                          The commentators pointed out last night that only a couple of players from each side generally have international careers, and only half domestic careers.

                                          Depends what is meant by 'careers', but ...

                                          Looking back at previous squads.

                                          It would be 6 to 7 end up playing senior international cricket (in a good 2-year-cycle crop).

                                          2 to 4 when you have a bad cycle.

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