All Blacks v Pumas 1
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Dan54 funny, I always thought of Shannon as being in the Poo.
So did I, hence my comment ... if it's in the Nua then I apologise @Dan54.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Dan54 funny, I always thought of Shannon as being in the Poo.
So did I, hence my comment ... if it's in the Nua then I apologise @Dan54.
Whew ,I don't have to go looking for my club, and come hunting (while making sure I never found you lol)..:winking_face_with_tongue:
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Dan54 funny, I always thought of Shannon as being in the Poo.
So did I, hence my comment ... if it's in the Nua then I apologise @Dan54.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Dan54 funny, I always thought of Shannon as being in the Poo.
So did I, hence my comment ... if it's in the Nua then I apologise @Dan54.
It's still in the flax swamp though.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Dan54 funny, I always thought of Shannon as being in the Poo.
So did I, hence my comment ... if it's in the Nua then I apologise @Dan54.
It's still in the flax swamp though.
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Dan54 funny, I always thought of Shannon as being in the Poo.
So did I, hence my comment ... if it's in the Nua then I apologise @Dan54.
It's still in the flax swamp though.
Wiki list it as in the Poo-Wanganui region so close enough.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
I thought the depth in our attack was a big factor in Rieko looking so dangerous all game. Do you think that was down to RM starting at 10 or a different game plan?
I noticed passes from the ruck to a forward standing a metre or two back who went forward or passed backwards and wider to either Ritchie or DH. It seemed put uncertainty into the Bokke defence and gave options for attack from deeper.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
I thought the depth in our attack was a big factor in Rieko looking so dangerous all game. Do you think that was down to RM starting at 10 or a different game plan?
I noticed passes from the ruck to a forward standing a metre or two back who went forward or passed backwards and wider to either Ritchie or DH. It seemed put uncertainty into the Bokke defence and gave options for attack from deeper.
I can't help but feel that's always what they've been supposed to do, but instead of putting doubt into the minds of the defence, they've stayed stationary and passed the ball, totally negating the point.
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@Frye said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@broughie said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@ACT-Crusader The primary reason why the backs played so much better is that we had a competitive forward pack on Saturday which has been the problem all along. I might even accept Havilli at 2nd five if he is not on the back foot all the time.
I'd say a primary reason was we played with depth so we could better attack from too. It enabled us to better manage the rush defence which the Boks centre their defence and attack off. Plus having a 1st 5 that has an intent to attack and set his outsides (and the odd Bok
) up was integral to that.I thought the depth in our attack was a big factor in Rieko looking so dangerous all game. Do you think that was down to RM starting at 10 or a different game plan? It just seems so silly for BB to always play so flat when it's his running game that is his biggest strength. When he's able to get a head of steam up before getting to the defensive line he puts the opposition in two minds and becomes so much more effective.
Pretty hard to say off the one game, but the difference was RM actually feeding those in space, rather than a panicked shovel or hold.
Beauds used to rely on pace off the mark a lot, I haven't seen evidence he's still got it, almost looks injured. That break he made in the first test looked like he was running in treacle, very unlike him.
The video poster's premise is incorrect IMHO
This was posted to demonstrate that it wasn't all sunshine & lollipops for RM
You probably should watch that video the whole way through. It was highlighting PSDT's illegal action that allowed Marx the opportunity to win the turnover.
I watched it
PSDT completed the tackle
Marx turned the ball over
Correct reffing IMHO
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Frye said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@broughie said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@ACT-Crusader The primary reason why the backs played so much better is that we had a competitive forward pack on Saturday which has been the problem all along. I might even accept Havilli at 2nd five if he is not on the back foot all the time.
I'd say a primary reason was we played with depth so we could better attack from too. It enabled us to better manage the rush defence which the Boks centre their defence and attack off. Plus having a 1st 5 that has an intent to attack and set his outsides (and the odd Bok
) up was integral to that.I thought the depth in our attack was a big factor in Rieko looking so dangerous all game. Do you think that was down to RM starting at 10 or a different game plan? It just seems so silly for BB to always play so flat when it's his running game that is his biggest strength. When he's able to get a head of steam up before getting to the defensive line he puts the opposition in two minds and becomes so much more effective.
Pretty hard to say off the one game, but the difference was RM actually feeding those in space, rather than a panicked shovel or hold.
Beauds used to rely on pace off the mark a lot, I haven't seen evidence he's still got it, almost looks injured. That break he made in the first test looked like he was running in treacle, very unlike him.
The video poster's premise is incorrect IMHO
This was posted to demonstrate that it wasn't all sunshine & lollipops for RM
You probably should watch that video the whole way through. It was highlighting PSDT's illegal action that allowed Marx the opportunity to win the turnover.
I watched it
PSDT completed the tackle
Marx turned the ball over
Correct reffing IMHO
Nah. Easy penalty to Black. Every other ref will say to Marx "you're fine, but you're only there because PSDT didn't roll away first".
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
I thought the depth in our attack was a big factor in Rieko looking so dangerous all game. Do you think that was down to RM starting at 10 or a different game plan?
I noticed passes from the ruck to a forward standing a metre or two back who went forward or passed backwards and wider to either Ritchie or DH. It seemed put uncertainty into the Bokke defence and gave options for attack from deeper.
I can't help but feel that's always what they've been supposed to do, but instead of putting doubt into the minds of the defence, they've stayed stationary and passed the ball, totally negating the point.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
I thought the depth in our attack was a big factor in Rieko looking so dangerous all game. Do you think that was down to RM starting at 10 or a different game plan?
I noticed passes from the ruck to a forward standing a metre or two back who went forward or passed backwards and wider to either Ritchie or DH. It seemed put uncertainty into the Bokke defence and gave options for attack from deeper.
I can't help but feel that's always what they've been supposed to do, but instead of putting doubt into the minds of the defence, they've stayed stationary and passed the ball, totally negating the point.
And/or the passes have been of similar width.
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Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
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Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
you boys are no @Snowy
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
Wouldn't want to cramp your style, so it's plan b then. Spike the pies at the dairy down the road from Rugby Park.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
you boys are no @Snowy
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
you boys are no @Snowy
@Snowy is helping with the clean up and disposal.
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So now all the shit show is over let's get back to rugby.
Anyone think there should be changes for the first test?
I could live with RTS on bench if he has decent game for Auckland,or Goodhue if goes ok for Northland, Ennor probably can go back to Canterbury
Forwards, I would like them to be left, I thought starting front row could be left as was, and just think maybe just give Sam W a rest towards end of game if score allows. -
So now all the shit show is over let's get back to rugby.
Anyone think there should be changes for the first test?
I could live with RTS on bench if he has decent game for Auckland,or Goodhue if goes ok for Northland, Ennor probably can go back to Canterbury
Forwards, I would like them to be left, I thought starting front row could be left as was, and just think maybe just give Sam W a rest towards end of game if score allows.@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
So now all the shit show is over let's get back to rugby.
Anyone think there should be changes for the first test?
I could live with RTS on bench if he has decent game for Auckland,or Goodhue if goes ok for Northland, Ennor probably can go back to Canterbury
Forwards, I would like them to be left, I thought starting front row could be left as was, and just think maybe just give Sam W a rest towards end of game if score allows.No changes start the same XV with the same bench.
Start building on the Ellis Park win,
I would hate to see rotation BS again bed down the combinations and grow the team. -
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Just hang about the nearest KFC and you’ll spot him soon enough ( chortle chortle chortle guffaw )
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
you boys are no @Snowy
@Snowy is helping with the clean up and disposal.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
you boys are no @Snowy
@Snowy is helping with the clean up and disposal.
I assume that you are still the long arm of the law so I’d just be helping the police with their “enquiries”.
Best way to dispose of “stuff” is online auction from a storage unit. Just saying.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
you boys are no @Snowy
@Snowy is helping with the clean up and disposal.
I assume that you are still the long arm of the law so I’d just be helping the police with their “enquiries”.
Best way to dispose of “stuff” is online auction from a storage unit. Just saying.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?
Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?
Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.
Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.
you boys are no @Snowy
@Snowy is helping with the clean up and disposal.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Snowy is helping with the clean up and disposal.
if @Snowy sells meat pies as well, (with the faintest aroma of 'learnings') I'm definitely locking all the doors tonight.
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So now all the shit show is over let's get back to rugby.
Anyone think there should be changes for the first test?
I could live with RTS on bench if he has decent game for Auckland,or Goodhue if goes ok for Northland, Ennor probably can go back to Canterbury
Forwards, I would like them to be left, I thought starting front row could be left as was, and just think maybe just give Sam W a rest towards end of game if score allows.@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
So now all the shit show is over let's get back to rugby.
Anyone think there should be changes for the first test?
Reece?
I could live with RTS on bench if he has decent game for Auckland,or Goodhue if goes ok for Northland,Apparently, RTS has big biceps so that means he should start. I am consigned to the fate of never seeing a TUJ or PUJ in the midfield in the near future.
Ennor probably can go back to Canterbury
There is no probably.
Forwards, I would like them to be left, I thought starting front row could be left as was, and just think maybe just give Sam W a rest towards end of game if score allows.
Absolutely, we need to give Sam W. a break or two.
Do you think this is the game for Jordan at 15?
