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All Blacks v Argentina II

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Chris Apart from Taylor, I don't think the players are the problem.

    Game plan, and how it is communicated to the players (lack of clear messaging), and defence seem to be the main issues IMO. That's on the coaches, particularly Foster and Mcleod.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Chris Apart from Taylor, I don't think the players are the problem.

    Game plan, and how it is communicated to the players (lack of clear messaging), and defence seem to be the main issues IMO. That's on the coaches, particularly Foster and Mcleod.

    100% that is my thinking watching from a far.

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      Imagine how Perofeta feels.

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        @Tim said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        https://i.ibb.co/P9fD0V3/Fbhs-A-NUEAALF2k-format-jpg-name-medium.jpg

        :thumbs_down:

        At least Taylor is gone.

        Sack him.

        This is disgraceful carryon. Even if they win.

        They have lost 6 out of 8 and mediocrity shouldn't be rewarded.

        The crest on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back.

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        @Steve said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        @Tim said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        https://i.ibb.co/P9fD0V3/Fbhs-A-NUEAALF2k-format-jpg-name-medium.jpg

        :thumbs_down:

        At least Taylor is gone.

        Sack him.

        This is disgraceful carryon. Even if they win.

        They have lost 6 out of 8 and mediocrity shouldn't be rewarded.

        The crest on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back.

        They don’t have names on the backs….

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          Imagine how Perofeta feels.

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          @Steve said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Imagine how Perofeta feels.

          Who

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            What a weird time to be an AB fan.

            In the past coaches would have made wholesale changes after a historic home loss to Argentina ( not forgetting a historic series loss to Ireland prior to that )

            They can’t ALL have dodgy photos of him surely ?

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @Tim said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              https://i.ibb.co/P9fD0V3/Fbhs-A-NUEAALF2k-format-jpg-name-medium.jpg

              :thumbs_down:

              At least Taylor is gone.

              And Akira

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              Only real quibble is Reece not starting or in 23

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                Joe Schmidt looks like he backs that Backline being attack/back coach he would have had a big say in selections.

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                  Sotutu, RTS, Vaii and Fakatava must be wondering what the fucking point is at this stage.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @Chris Apart from Taylor, I don't think the players are the problem.

                    Game plan, and how it is communicated to the players (lack of clear messaging), and defence seem to be the main issues IMO. That's on the coaches, particularly Foster and Mcleod.

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                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @Chris Apart from Taylor, I don't think the players are the problem.

                    Game plan, and how it is communicated to the players (lack of clear messaging), and defence seem to be the main issues IMO. That's on the coaches, particularly Foster and Mcleod.

                    yes, thoeretically you're right...but its still pretty worrying that these guys havent taken it on themselves to sort it out on the field if what the coaches are telling them isn;t working again...and again

                    was it in the foster thread someone posted that he had pretty much said theyre not doing what hes telling them

                    something has to bloody change

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      Joe Schmidt looks like he backs that Backline being attack/back coach he would have had a big say in selections.

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                      @Chris Yep, and he's had very little time, yet, to work with them, so that makes it kind of understandable that they keep the same backs in the line-up.

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                        We are obviously looking to build parts of our game and this week is another chance to do that," said All Blacks head coach Ian Foster. "This year's Rugby Championship is extremely tight and that makes this weekend's test an exciting opportunity.

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @Chris Apart from Taylor, I don't think the players are the problem.

                          Game plan, and how it is communicated to the players (lack of clear messaging), and defence seem to be the main issues IMO. That's on the coaches, particularly Foster and Mcleod.

                          yes, thoeretically you're right...but its still pretty worrying that these guys havent taken it on themselves to sort it out on the field if what the coaches are telling them isn;t working again...and again

                          was it in the foster thread someone posted that he had pretty much said theyre not doing what hes telling them

                          something has to bloody change

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @Chris Apart from Taylor, I don't think the players are the problem.

                          Game plan, and how it is communicated to the players (lack of clear messaging), and defence seem to be the main issues IMO. That's on the coaches, particularly Foster and Mcleod.

                          yes, thoeretically you're right...but its still pretty worrying that these guys havent taken it on themselves to sort it out on the field if what the coaches are telling them isn;t working again...and again

                          was it in the foster thread someone posted that he had pretty much said theyre not doing what hes telling them

                          something has to bloody change

                          Yeah, the head coach and defence coach. But that ship has sailed.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            We are obviously looking to build parts of our game and this week is another chance to do that," said All Blacks head coach Ian Foster. "This year's Rugby Championship is extremely tight and that makes this weekend's test an exciting opportunity.

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                            @Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            We are obviously looking to build parts of our game and this week is another chance to do that," said All Blacks head coach Ian Foster. "This year's Rugby Championship is extremely tight and that makes this weekend's test an exciting opportunity.

                            Yeah, really exciting. In the context of the ABs, that word now means throwing objects at the tv and swearing a lot. I don't want it to be that kind of exciting.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              We are obviously looking to build parts of our game and this week is another chance to do that," said All Blacks head coach Ian Foster. "This year's Rugby Championship is extremely tight and that makes this weekend's test an exciting opportunity.

                              Yeah, really exciting. In the context of the ABs, that word now means throwing objects at the tv and swearing a lot. I don't want it to be that kind of exciting.

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                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              We are obviously looking to build parts of our game and this week is another chance to do that," said All Blacks head coach Ian Foster. "This year's Rugby Championship is extremely tight and that makes this weekend's test an exciting opportunity.

                              Yeah, really exciting. In the context of the ABs, that word now means throwing objects at the tv and swearing a lot. I don't want it to be that kind of exciting.

                              Foster is into some kinky stuff, shitting on a legacy is exciting

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                We are obviously looking to build parts of our game and this week is another chance to do that," said All Blacks head coach Ian Foster. "This year's Rugby Championship is extremely tight and that makes this weekend's test an exciting opportunity.

                                Yeah, really exciting. In the context of the ABs, that word now means throwing objects at the tv and swearing a lot. I don't want it to be that kind of exciting.

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                                @Stargazer or exciting wondering what level of rugby we will see this week....

                                The embarrassing rugby from the 1st half of test 3 v Ireland, the brainless from the 2nd half last week, the good stuff from Ireland 1 or Ellis Park, or will we find a new kind of exciting....

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                                  Kiwiwomble
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                                  it wold honestly be one thing if he'd come out and said "we're doing something different...but a big change is going to mean some pain"

                                  but he seems to think we can thrash everyone every week...and is surprised when we dont...but then he tries the same thing again thinking it will work this time...and it doesnt and hes surprised....but he tries it again because surely he cant be wrong and it must eventually work

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                                    He’s very much enjoying getting fucked over

                                    "It's important we embrace those moments," he says of their poor finish in Christchurch.

                                    No it is not, it is imprtant you find out what went wrong and change it. But for him it is more of the same, just betterer

                                    Foster says his message to the public is that they've been pretty ruthless and hard on themselves behind the scenes.
                                    "We believe in things we're working on now. Things were going good but didn't translate to the result we wanted," he says.

                                    Ruthless, yeah right. Dropping Taylor wan’t ruthless, after that performance it was a bare minimum. Ruthless is dropping Capt Cane, ruthless is chucking Havili, ruthless is ditching your underperforming assisstants last year.

                                    I am glad they are owning the training field and team meetings tho, well done 🙄

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                                    • ARHSA ARHS

                                      Only real quibble is Reece not starting or in 23

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                                      @ARHS said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      Only real quibble is Reece not starting or in 23

                                      That sort of optimism doesn’t belong here

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                                        Have just had a gander at the weather forecast for Hamilton on Saturday night. Looks like a roughly 90% chance of rain at kickoff, and a 70-80% chance of it sticking around throughout the game. Tactical play, which Aaron Smith and Richie Mo'unga are talking about now, is going to be more important than last week.

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                                          https://twitter.com/marchintonffx/status/1565120448006090752?s=20&t=UrfLmealWLuw941OTVhiZA

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